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WashPost ^ | 8/20/04 | Unknown

Posted on 08/21/2004 12:05:31 AM PDT by spero

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To: GeronL
... because, to be honest, BC has been far bahing KE...

Maybe it's southern.

Take the accent out and it comes out like this:

... because, to be honest, BC has been for banging KE ...

Hmmm. Let's take care of those abbreviations ...

... because, to be honest, Bill Clinton has been for banging Kerry-Edwards...

That's better.

21 posted on 08/21/2004 1:14:54 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
Bill Clinton has been for banging Kerry-Edwards

That word 'banging' has such..um.. GAY.. connotations

22 posted on 08/21/2004 1:18:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Viking Kitties have won the GOLD MEDAL in the 2,000 meter ZOTTING)
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To: spero
B



23 posted on 08/21/2004 1:24:40 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: spero

I found the following on a news page of Mikrotec Internet Services. The same piece is all over the Net. ...looks like it originated as part of an AP piece, By LAURA MECKLER.

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No longer is the nation divided into "red" and "blue" states. The line is now more hip: retro vs. metro -- and it extends to people, ideas and, of course, politicians.

Mel Gibson, Newt Gingrich and oil wells are "retro", according to a series of advertisements that began appearing Thursday in The Washington Post and The New York Times.

The ads -- short on words and big on pictures -- position Gibson, et al., against their "metro" counterparts: Michael Moore, Hillary Rodham Clinton and wind mills.

And although they don't say it, the ads are to stir up curiosity surrounding the Aug. 24 release of the book, "The Great Divide: Retro vs. Metro America," by billionaire and University of Phoenix founder John Sperling.

The book, subtitled "Atlas of a Divided Nation and Blueprint for Reuniting America," promises to show a new way of looking at the nation's political divisions with maps, charts and photographs.

A visit to the book's Web site shows more juxtapositions, including a metro John F. Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate and a retro President Bush. Other metro versus retro matchups include:

--Al Franken and Bill O'Reilly.

--The Dixie Chicks and Hank Williams Jr.

--California and Alabama.

--Smarter kids and smarter bombs.


24 posted on 08/21/2004 1:42:40 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: spero
And I would like to know just who is behind this Blog? It is either one very devoted clever conservative or one very dumb (aren't they all) liberal. the iraq war was wrong blog
25 posted on 08/21/2004 1:45:06 AM PDT by deadmuas
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To: spero

The link (without title or explanation) is also being posted to some Kerry blogs. That, and the info in the previous comment is all I've found in the search so far. By the way, the previous comment was only an excerpt--part of an anti-Republican piece.


26 posted on 08/21/2004 1:50:20 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: piasa

Address lookup

canonical name retrovsmetro.org.
aliases
addresses 216.168.61.87

Domain Whois record

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DNS records

DNS query for 87.61.168.216.in-addr.arpa returned an error from the server: NameError

name class type data time to live
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Traceroute

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27 posted on 08/21/2004 2:14:17 AM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Triskaidekaphobia ? Never heard of it !)
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To: LayoutGuru2
Man you coulda summed all that up. ~smile~ What does it mean?
28 posted on 08/21/2004 2:37:16 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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Forestnet.com - Home of the Logging and Sawmiling Journal and ...Forest Expo Canada, Reader Service - see if you qualify for a free subscription,. search our site, we have over 80 publications of ... www.forestnet.com/Default.htm - 6k - Cached - Similar pages

Trees, trees, everywhere... Al Gore must be involved. ;o)

29 posted on 08/21/2004 2:50:40 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: LayoutGuru2

When you check out the retrvsmetro website [a site apprently dedicated to pointing out that there are two Americas] you find it is created by newdle designs. Newdle designs is run by this guy...

Chris Black [not the former CNN hack who is now a spokesman for Kerry...that's a female]
General Manager, Newdle Design

Also a former employee of http://www.purematter.com/whatwedo.asp

He's a web developer specializing in media production planning and implementation. He has worked for Infogrames, CBIZ/SK Consulting, and Nexxus Interactive (as a principal).

He is a member of Genetic Savings & Clone apparently a repository of favorite pet genes to be used for future cloning.

Dont quite know if this has anything do to with anything but nevertheless...that's the info.




30 posted on 08/21/2004 3:23:27 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: spero; GeronL
BC has been far bahing KE on this respect.

I think what you are saying is, "Bush-Cheney is far behind Kerry-Edwards in this respect."

31 posted on 08/21/2004 3:26:12 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Hey, KERRY! We said it to Saddam, and now to you -- If you have nothing to hide, QUIT HIDING IT!)
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To: piasa

David Anderson, VP Sales and Marketing Digital Forest davida@forest.net


32 posted on 08/21/2004 3:30:37 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: spero
They are using Anchor Domains proxy to hide behind.

In it's short life, Anchor Domains (for $9.95 a year) has hosted some if the nastiest scams on the net.

33 posted on 08/21/2004 4:59:28 AM PDT by FreedomFarmer (No, this is Shineola.)
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To: VaBthang4
Whoever they are...they are the same people who have created swiftvets.org [another Liberal group supporting Kerry].

No. You misunderstood me. Domains by Proxy is a SERVICE which allows anyone who subscribes to hide the identity of the actual ownership of a web domain. They don't "create" anything.

34 posted on 08/21/2004 6:30:32 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort
I understand. However, my thinking is that they're being used by the same individuals to host two different [and prolly more] liberal sites.

35 posted on 08/21/2004 10:20:26 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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