Posted on 08/24/2004 8:07:05 AM PDT by Callahan
Edited on 08/24/2004 8:36:11 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE AUG 24, 2004 11:09:31 ET XXXXX
KERRY PHONES SWIFT BOAT FOES
**Exclsuive**
Dem presidential hopeful John Kerry personally phoned anti-Kerry swift boat vets, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
Kerry reached out to Robert "Friar Tuck" Brant Cdr., USN (RET) Sunday night, just hours after former Sen. Bob Dole publicly challenged Kerry to apologize to veterans.
Brant was skipper of the #96 and # 36 boat and spent time with Kerry in Anm Thoi. Kerry and Brant slept in the same quarters, and Brant used to put Kerry back to be at night when Kerry was sleepwalking.
Brant received a call from Kerry at his home in Virginia while he was watching the Olympics on TV.
The call lasted 10 minutes, sources tell DRUDGE.
KERRY: "Why are all these swift boat guys opposed to me?"
BRANT: "You should know what you said when you came back, the impact it had on the young sailors and how it was disrespectful of our guys that were killed over there.
[Brant had two men killed in battle.]
KERRY: "When we dedicated swift boat one in '92, I said to all the swift guys that I wasn't talking about the swifties, I was talking about all the rest of the veterans."
Kerry then asked if he could meet Brant -- man to man -- face to face.
Brant declined the invite, explaining that Kerry was obviously not prepared to correct the record on exactly what happened during Vietnam and what happened when Kerry came back.
Developing...
It's Bush's Fault ... He MADE Kerry make that call
I can picture Kerry doing that .. LOL
God Bless you and your comrades.
I thanked Him for you back then even while I was in training for the AF, and I still do now. You all served with pride and valor. Our country is better because of you all.
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I'd say 10-15% of them are College age that will wake up sooner or later to what the Dem Party is really about
The rest of the Dem base is a lost cause
John F*ckin' has just given the Swifties legitimacy and undercut his media hacks - who must look furious at having been sandbagged. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I am so outraged right now I have to get up and pace a bit, drawing the usual stares. I need to punch someone. Kerry. I need to punch him really, REALLY hard.
YEAH, JOHN F*CKIN' YOU MADE THE SWIFTIES LOOK GOOD AND SHOWED THE LIBERAL MEDIA IF THEY CARRY WATER FOR YOU THEY LOOK STUPID!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
The Clinger of Viet Nam.
"C'mon guys; I'll let you give Licorice CPR if you call it off!" --- BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
DING DONG! The Emperor With No Clothes - HAS NO CLOTHES!!!
I was just at the site...they really need to put out a press release about this.
I wonder when Kerry will enlist Bruce "Mr Fixit" Lindsay to start visiting the Swift Vets with sworn affadavits for them to sign...
A couple days ago, I was on an "America the Right Way" thread, and wrote in three different posts something I'll copy here:
........
oldngray's post#123 generated as part of response to prairie's post#34 that I just saw jogs my memory
now. To whit: every officer in both Navy and AF, and probably Army, who were not Academy
graduates, were given a "Reserve" commission. There was a chance that they would be OFFERED a
"Regular" commission at some time in the future, and I believe that was essential if they were to be
career military.
While serving actively, it made no difference to anybody which you were. It only mattered to
promotion boards.
Ao, at the time, unless you were Academy, joining the officer corp MEANT being a reserve officer,
and you knew you were virtually automatically placed on active status for 4 years, though that may
have varied a bit.
Many of us who had a choice attempted to minimize the likelihood of our death while we were serving
our country, and as I said before, I do not fault either President Bush or Sen.sKerry for the service
route they chose. By doing so, they served their country in the way the country asked. Where they
served was up to the country: for some (many) it was being a soldier slogging around the jungle
(rainforest, for you in RioLinda) or keeping his head down in 'Nam; for a very lucky friend of mine, it
meant spending his whole service as a carpool driver in Washington, DC. By doing what the country
asked, and doing it well, they all did their duty.
That being said, I suspect that it didn't turn out as either of them really hoped it would... From what I
read, it seems that when sKerry volunteered for SwiftBoats, they were not usually expected to
participate in combat, but that changed about the time he volunteered for them. From what I know, the
F-102 aircraft Pres.Bush's Air National Guard unit flew had been used in 'Nam and was phased out of
that service in favor of F4's about the time Bush volunteered for 'Nam - and BELIEVE ME - every
fighter-qualified pilot wants to get into a combat situation (at least once).
And:.........
The main thrust is that EVERYONE who was not a gung-ho "kill the commies" type was trying to keep from dying
somehow. People like me (Draft# 156 or so, wouldn't have been "drafted") who felt they were OBLIGATED to serve
our country (they probably were active Boy Scouts or were from military families) and went nevertheless often did
so in the AF or Navy, and many with lower draft numbers who realized that they were going to be called regardless
often tried to get a better situation for themselves in the Navy or AF or some other branch than the Marines or
Army.
I DO NOT fault sKerry OR President Bush for doing the same. I have no idea what their respective draft numbers
were, and that DOES have a big bearing on what I would think of their behavior. If they had high numbers and
would not have been called up, and went Navy/AF/Guard/CG anyway, or joined up before getting a number, they
get big time points for their service. If their numbers were low, their motivation STILL might have been that they
believed it was RIGHT to serve our country, but I'm not giving automatic points for that ambiguous behavior.
and:.............
All that being said, it is CERTAIN that sKerry decided to go to the Navy in order to avoid, NOT to ENGAGE, in
combat.
Every single person I know of who was in the Navy during 'Nam was either 1) avoiding the Army or 2) had a Navy
father.
I know of NONE of my contemporaries who TRIED to get into a combat assignment in 'Nam, though (I was at
Cornell at the time) so I'm not condemning that he tried to do so (heck, I went AF for somewhat similar reasons -
wanted to serve, but avoid dying, and was pleasantly surprised to find myself pilot qualified - my best friend joined
the Peace Corps and got deferred that way - I really wonder how sKerry was denied a student deferrment, though) ...
I condemn that he tries to make it sound he did differently.
sKerry clearly was avoiding the Army, no matter what he says. He thought the Swift Boats would be "fun" so
volunteered for them and when they ended up in close combat, he said, "Oh, sh.." He thought he would be safer in
the Naval Reserves, but found himself in real combat in 'nam getting shot at by mistakes he brought on himself.
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Why don't they put out a press release, you are right.
"KERRY: "When we dedicated swift boat one in '92, I said to all the swift guys that I wasn't talking about the swifties, I was talking about all the rest of the veterans."
F**K Hanoi Kerry PING!!!!
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FREE Download of The New Soldier by John Kerry
and and Vietnam Veterans Against the War
Print and distibute the book that John Kerry "forgets" to mention!
The one book he refuses to bring up.
"honor" John Kerry
Help America know what a "hero" he was at the Winter Soldier
scam he and Jane Fonda pulled on the USA when he came home.
Make sure Kerry "fans" get their copy!
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf
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Sorry??...I don't have a clue what you mean. Please explain.
Do you know how common sleeping walking is among those in combat? Among the general population?
Kerry's working them one by one - hoping to find the *weak link(s)* to use as a wedge in order to divide and conquer. I hope that the group had prepared for just this sort of a tactic to be used against them. It was easily predictible and hopefully planned for.
correct.
and the whining phone call..
means HE KNOWS IT too.
what a loser.
Not a chance. His only chance for power is his cosial communist friends and he can't risk ticking them off. Not to mention he's got such a heroism fetish and has invested so much of his own psychological resources over the years into his Hero persona that he'll crack if he admits that he helped cause the deaths and suffering of a few million people. He came as close to an apology as he's going to get when he said his remarks may have been over the top.
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