Explosive Found in Wreckage of Second Russian Jet

ABC News ^ | 8/2/04

[Long Cut]

I hope you all get payback. Tell the Spetznaz to give 'em Hell.

[RussianConservative]

You speak the truth, the idiots of the West married to the Nation State concept do not understand the rationality of the NWO Islam, which has now from 600s preached one world government, the one Great Caliph...they are far ahead on the NWO stage then any West "intellectual". The West America to Russia and all idiots in between play nation state games not in understanding of what is trually they face as an enemy.

[RussianConservative]

Russia has been under attack long before America. Russia has its pet Islamics: Iran, Syria. America its: Saudi Arabia, KLA, PLO, Pakistan, Egypt...that is the problem. America also support islamic terror, but they are "friendly" terrorist as long as they do not attack US.

[RussianConservative]

I have dealt with Islamics, kill them is the only solution. I like what Chengis do with the real Tartars (tartars never leave Mongolia) As revenge for death of his father, he killed all who were higher then a wagon wheel, then absorbed the Children...see it is all for the Children...end result, no Tartar.

[Calpernia]

>>>The black widows didn't like their country being raped and destroyed.

Why do you say black widows? What does that mean?

[silversky]

I firmly believe that Radical Islam is the problem. Islam goes bad only if radicalized. I do understand you but please do not direct your anger toward all Muslims. Wallabies are the problem. For your information: There were only three countries in the entire world that recognized the Talliban - UAE, the Saudis and Pakistan. All of them were and still are US "friends". Looks like Russia has better taste when picking allies from the Islamic world. Radical Islam is the enemy of all. Iran is not radical - it beats me why we aim at Iran when Saudi Arabia is the Evil One.

I want Bush to come forward and speak about Radical Islam versus normal Islam. The first country on the axis of evil should be Saudi Arabia. If it's not - there is something fishy in the whole story.

[silversky]

WallabiesWahhabies

[Long Cut]

We aim at Iran because its government has, over a period of decades, carried out Acts Of War against this country and its civilians. Beginning with the Hostage crisis, on through the Beruit bombings, and multiple hijackings and murders.

As for the Saudis, we'll get to them. The oil shields them, for now. Besides, their government wasn't behind the 9-11 hijackers or al Quaeda, it was individual Saudis who financed those. Iran's government, on the other hand, directly carried out these Acts Of War as a matter of policy.

[Calpernia]

>>>I do understand you but please do not direct your anger toward all Muslims.

Ok. I won't if you explain how the Caliph is to be achieved in a moderate Islam.

[silversky]

Are you telling me that the US soldiers are risking their lives in some act of ritual revenge? That sound policy and reason don't play a role any more? If old feuds and paybacks were the issue, we would be fighting in Vietnam now. And how come "the oil" shields Saudi? It only makes a more pressing target... Iran is not a Wahhaby country. They don't fund terrorists nor endorse their ideology. Saudi Arabia does both. This "matter of policy" is not clean. The clean solution is to destroy Radical Islam. Islamic Radicalism is worse than social radicalism (communism). It comes close to Nazism and should be swept clean from the face of the Earth. Starting with its source - Saudi Arabia.

[Calpernia]

>>>>We aim at Iran because its government has, over a period of decades, carried out Acts Of War against this country and its civilians. Beginning with the Hostage crisis, on through the Beruit bombings, and multiple hijackings and murders.

Old feuds? Iran is flexing! They have nuclear weapons and are pointing at the USA, Israel and India. What are you talking about with 'old feuds'? This is now.

[silversky]

I won't if you explain how the Caliph is to be achieved in a moderate Islam

Moderate Islam is not after Caliphates. Turkey is an example of how it can be. Not perfect but not monstrous either. Of course, because of the whole brouhaha Turkey is starting slowly to radicalize. I have the feeling that someone is trying to put Frankenstein back together again. You know the results, don't you?

[Long Cut]

"If old feuds and paybacks were the issue, we would be fighting in Vietnam now."

Iran's government has carried out attacks against this country right up to today. See Al-Najaf for an example. It's hardly an "old feud", and since when did that ever stop an Islamonazi?

" Iran is not a Wahhaby country. They don't fund terrorists nor endorse their ideology..."

ROFLMAO! They may not be Wahabbis, but they sure as Hell fund and support terrorists. See Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. After this statement, I assign you NO credibility whatsoever.

"The clean solution is to destroy Radical Islam. Islamic Radicalism is worse than social radicalism (communism). It comes close to Nazism and should be swept clean from the face of the Earth."

On this, we agree. INCLUDING the Islamic fascists in Iran. ESPECIALLY so now that they are getting nukes.

[silversky]

They have nuclear weapons and are pointing at the USA, Israel and India.

Riiiiight. Iraq has piles of WMD too. All pointing EVERYWHERE. So if it's not about old feuds it's about wild speculations. I feel a lot better now. /sarcasm

[Calpernia]

>>>And how come "the oil" shields Saudi?

First of all; don't even try to bring in the oil propaganda.

The USA has more oil than Saudi up in good ole Gull Island Alaska. That cap is on the oil due to the agreement to protect the Saudi royals and provide the Middle East an income. BUT the Saudis have to set the behavioral example.

Obviously the standard is in question. Hence the example being set in Iraq.

[Calpernia]

Yes I do know the results. If if what you say is true...Turkey as an example, I will be THRILLED!

That information is NOT out there readily. The propaganda is dominent.

If you can explain further, I can get the pings in to the news carriers.

Please, expand on moderate Islam.

[Calpernia]

Ping!

[silversky]

Iran had nothing to do with the 9/11ers. Iran is not even an Arab country. Why should we risk American lives at the wrong places and not attack the problem where it is - Saudi Arabia. If the rest does not learn from that, then it's their turn. Is it's now we are sending a message - Wahhabi kill us, we don't know what we are doing, we are afraid to tackle your financial and ideological sponsor.

[Alamo-Girl]

Bump!

[Cindy]

Thank you Calpernia.