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Muslim cleric: Some wives need to be beaten
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, September 3, 2004

Posted on 09/03/2004 1:06:27 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

In his sermon broadcast on Qatar TV, a Muslim cleric claims some wives, due to their nature, must be beaten.

The cleric's Aug. 27 message to the faithful was translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute TV Monitor Project, or MEMRI TV. The video of the sermon can be viewed on MEMRI's website.

"We must know that [wife] beating is a punishment in Islamic religious law," the cleric stated. "No one should deny this because this was permitted by the Creator of Man, and because when you purchase an electric appliance or a car you get instructions – a catalogue, explaining how to use it. The Creator of Man has sent down this book [the Quran] in order to show man which ways he must choose."

The speaker claims the non-Muslim world is ignorant of the truth about wife beating.

"We shouldn't be ashamed before the nations of the world who are still in their days of ignorance, to admit that these [beatings] are part of our religious law," he said. "We must remind the ignorant from among the Islamic Nation who followed the [West] that those [Westerners] acknowledge the wondrous nature of this verse," he said, noting that there are three types of women "with whom life is impossible without beatings."

He continued: "In America, 6 million women are beaten by their husbands every year. These are their own official statistics. Four-thousand to six-thousand women die as a result of their husbands' beatings. London police, every year, answer 100,000 phone calls and complaints of attacks against wives. In France, their slogan is, 'Beat the wife morning, noon and night, and don't ask her why – she knows the reason.'"

The cleric then defends the practice but qualifies his approval, saying Islam forbids beating anyone, even animals, on the face.

Claiming women naturally want to be controlled by men, the cleric declared, "Allah has created woman, whether Muslim or infidel, so she is happy under a strong man who will protect her and lives with her."

Concluding his message, the preacher explains to his listeners the three types of women who must be beaten:

"[The Koran says:] 'and beat them.' This verse is of a wondrous nature. There are three types of women with whom a man cannot live unless he carries a rod on his shoulder. The first type is a girl who was brought up this way. Her parents ask her to go to school and she doesn't – they beat her. 'Eat' – 'I don't want to' – they beat her. So she became accustomed to beatings; she was brought up that way. We pray Allah will help her husband later. He will only get along with her if he practices wife beating.

"The second type is a woman who is condescending toward her husband and ignores him. With her, too, only a rod will help. The third type is a twisted woman who will not obey her husband unless he oppresses her, beats her, uses force against her, and overpowers her with his voice."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; muslimwomen; wifebeating

1 posted on 09/03/2004 1:06:27 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

I didn't know John Kerry had a Muslim chaplain.


3 posted on 09/03/2004 1:07:57 AM PDT by RichInOC (Kerry 2004: Honey, This Is Going To Hurt Me Worse Than It Hurts You.)
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To: RichInOC
"I didn't know John Kerry had a Muslim chaplain."

I bet his wife would clean his clock if he tried...then cut off his allowance.

4 posted on 09/03/2004 1:09:15 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: JohnHuang2

Some Muslim clerics deserve to be beaten. Then there are the problem cases, who deserve quite a bit worse.


5 posted on 09/03/2004 1:11:24 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: CWOJackson

Ah, yes...good point. Pity. I don't know that I'd go so far as to say Teresa needs a beating, but if John put her over his knee every now and then and spanked her, it might do her a world of good.


6 posted on 09/03/2004 1:12:13 AM PDT by RichInOC (Kerry 2004: Honey, This Is Going To Hurt Me Worse Than It Hurts You.)
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To: JohnHuang2

When I see something like this, I'm reminded of a very old Eddy Murphy bit. Go to sleep baby.


7 posted on 09/03/2004 1:14:31 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: JohnHuang2

The cleric should be careful. He's one slice away from being a woman.


8 posted on 09/03/2004 1:14:38 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Hill sez,"Bring it on, punk!"

9 posted on 09/03/2004 1:16:38 AM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: JohnHuang2

Yeah... Gotta beat 'em ever onst ta tha wile. Jist wen dey kneed hit, doh.


10 posted on 09/03/2004 1:23:34 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: happydogdesign

Damn, she's looking a lot better... Heh heh heh...


11 posted on 09/03/2004 1:24:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: JohnHuang2

So, now we know one of the prophets Christ was referring to when he said that false prophets will rise.

Clue, name begins with an M.


12 posted on 09/03/2004 1:25:30 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: happydogdesign

Oh Dear God, did you have to post THAT???
Thank you, HappyDog. I'm permanently blind now. ;)


13 posted on 09/03/2004 1:28:12 AM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Save the Environment. Stomp a Troll Today.")
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To: JohnHuang2
A woman, a dog and an almond tree,

The more you beat them the better they be.

From Alex Baldwin's "Kim Bassinger Owner Manual" or a Pre-Civil War poem. It's one of those, I can't tell which.

Either way, such behavior is confined to primitives or has long passed as far as being acceptable.

If a woman is deserving of a beating, she's far more deserving of leaving. There are plenty of other women left waiting to emotionally abuse a man. Why be selfish, share yourself...

14 posted on 09/03/2004 1:37:46 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: JohnHuang2

Is it true that NOW is going to start a UN protected coven in Saudi Arabia with Barbra Strisand lined up as a guest speaker, and Whitney Houston coming in to teach Muslim women all about The Ten Sefirot of the Kabbalah?


15 posted on 09/03/2004 1:39:55 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: RichInOC
In his sermon broadcast on Qatar TV, a Muslim cleric claims some wives, due to their nature, must be beaten.

I didn't know John Kerry had a Muslim chaplain.

Doesn't matter. Kerry would never, ever beat Edwards... and the saucy little tramp knows it, too! :)

16 posted on 09/03/2004 1:44:45 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LOL!!!

Oh, yeah...forgot about those two.


17 posted on 09/03/2004 1:47:44 AM PDT by RichInOC (Kerry-Edwards 2004: No, Really, They're Just Good Friends.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Why does Kerry allow this?


18 posted on 09/03/2004 2:02:31 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: happydogdesign

LOL


19 posted on 09/03/2004 3:30:19 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I've always been a little sceptical of this "wife-beating" thing. The bad part of it is I need to sleep from time to time. Besides, there are tried and true ways to handle the wife problem. It may be in some rare instances that that a wife needs to be spanked, but only if she's naughty. Then she should be told to don her spanking attire which should involve something shear and short.

On the other hand, it's commonly known that if wife-tickling is done on a regular basis, most of these other wife-problems will work out for themselves.

20 posted on 09/03/2004 4:04:30 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

21 posted on 09/03/2004 4:06:50 AM PDT by mhking
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To: JohnHuang2
'Eat' – 'I don't want to' – they beat her. So she became accustomed to beatings; she was brought up that way. We pray Allah will help her husband later. He will only get along with her (and she will only eat) if he practices wife beating.

Surely Allah knows there are some of the lasses that you have to slap around a bit...or, I suppose in a pinch you could ply 'em with chocolates.

22 posted on 09/03/2004 4:09:24 AM PDT by stevem
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To: JohnHuang2
"You just cant beat a good Muslim wife"

-Proverb not in Koran

Beat your wife everyday ,even if you don't know the reason why... she does

-Arab Proverb

23 posted on 09/03/2004 4:13:32 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: JohnHuang2
"[The Koran says:] 'and beat them.' This verse is of a wondrous nature. There are three types of women with whom a man cannot live unless he carries a rod on his shoulder. The first type is a girl who was brought up this way. Her parents ask her to go to school and she doesn't – they beat her. 'Eat' – 'I don't want to' – they beat her. So she became accustomed to beatings; she was brought up that way. We pray Allah will help her husband later. He will only get along with her if he practices wife beating.

I don't know if all this is really in the Koran. I suppose someday I might read it if I become really bored and can't sleep. If it is and I were an Imam and otherwise literate, it would embarrass me enough to white it out in all my copies of the Koran. Then I might try to highlight other passages. There must be some passages on torturing infidels or some such that could use a little more attention.

24 posted on 09/03/2004 4:14:37 AM PDT by stevem
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To: patriciaruth

I think Allah is the false prophet.


25 posted on 09/03/2004 4:16:22 AM PDT by battlegearboat (Hot for teacher!)
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To: battlegearboat
I think Allah is the false prophet.

No, allah is the false god, and muhammad is his false prophet.

26 posted on 09/03/2004 4:21:14 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: JohnHuang2
Is this for real, I'm not accusing but how in the world could someone, anyone really think like that? What is wrong with people? A religion of Peace, total BS.
27 posted on 09/03/2004 4:21:57 AM PDT by BC girl (Nero fiddled as Komrade Hillary sang, "We will take things away from you for the common good.")
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To: JohnHuang2

And some clerics need to be beaten.


28 posted on 09/03/2004 4:22:42 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: JohnHuang2

Muslim cleric's wives' reply, "Some husbands need to be muzzled."

"Now, shut up and take out the trash, you shiftless, worthless, no account deadbeat, hashish smoking loafer." his oldest wife explained.

"Don't be coming 'round here with hashish on your breath and lovin' on your mind!" one of his younger wives added.


29 posted on 09/03/2004 4:23:59 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("And oftentimes, to win us to our harm, the instruments of darkness tell us truths")
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To: Larry Lucido
Yeah, that's what I meant to say.

Thanks!

30 posted on 09/03/2004 4:44:37 AM PDT by battlegearboat (muttering to myself)
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To: JohnHuang2
We shouldn't be ashamed before the nations of the world who are still in their days of ignorance

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31 posted on 09/03/2004 4:45:09 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristscorecard)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"Get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in bed!"

"Darn my socks and mend my old bluejeans and put another log on the fire"

BOLD TALK THESE DAYS!

32 posted on 09/03/2004 4:48:48 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: JohnHuang2

This is only 2 types of wives. I wonder what the 3rd type of spouse who needs to be beaten is? Probably women who forget to feed the family camel...


33 posted on 09/03/2004 5:18:37 AM PDT by Exeter
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Doesn't matter. Kerry would never, ever beat Edwards... and the saucy little tramp knows it, too! :)

"John Kerry ith soo sweeet! Sometimes he ith mean to me, but I give him the silent treatment and he apologizes. We always kiss and make up...oh my, he ith sucth a good kisser, tee heee heee, and the best thing is, TheRayZa doesn't even know!"

From the thread

Post Your Girlie Man Kerry Photos Here

34 posted on 09/03/2004 5:34:01 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: JohnHuang2; All

You ever run the numbers regarding the so called numbers of American women beaten? 6 million a year....60 million in 10 years...then 120 million in 20 years. Another words in the past 20 years 1/3 to 1/2 of our population...practically all women and girls have been beaten by their husbands or boy friends....!

Even accounting for repeat "victims", the numbers seem awefully skewed...don't ya think?


35 posted on 09/03/2004 5:38:56 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: JohnHuang2
Muslim cleric: Some wives need to be beaten

HVC: Many Muslim Clerics need to be beaten.

36 posted on 09/03/2004 5:39:56 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (It's the tag line you're upset about, isnít it?)
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To: battlegearboat

Allah is the name a false prophet has for God. I don't know what the name means in Arabic. God's name mean "I am", which may be translated into other languages, I assume.

Just because the prophet is false and has written Satanic verses doesn't mean God wouldn't hear his children if they in good faith called Him by that name.


37 posted on 09/03/2004 6:07:17 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: All

It's way more twisted than that. There is an official procedure. A few months ago I was following a link on here to an Arab station to read a transcript. Couldn't find that one, but did find one on how to Beat Your Wife. Interview with an Imam. They even discussed the Imam in Spain who was jailed for writing a book on wife beating.

Goes something like this.

1. If the wife is disobedient, talk to her.

2. If talking doesn't work, bring in 2 male relatives (1 wife's, 1 husband's) to reason with her and make her understand her disobedience.

3. Withold husbandly affections...... Put her out of the marriage bed to punish her even more.

4. Beat wife. Beating is not allowed on face, breast or abdomen area. Do not beat in anger.

An aside- In Egypt the man will only be prosecuted if the wife is hospitalized from a beating more than 3 weeks. Otherwise it's just a disagreement.



38 posted on 09/03/2004 6:40:08 AM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: stevem

I was going to suggest "Islam for Dummies" but it's just the Koran with pictures.......


39 posted on 09/03/2004 7:36:10 AM PDT by rockrr (A day without democrats is like a day without mental disease)
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To: JohnHuang2

It is a FACT that a LOT of women need to be beaten to the bathroom! Otherwise, you might be in for a long wait!


40 posted on 09/03/2004 7:44:27 AM PDT by RonHolzwarth ("History repeats itself - first as tragedy, then as farce" - Karl Marx)
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To: Exeter
Try reading. It works.

"The second type is a woman who is condescending toward her husband and ignores him. With her, too, only a rod will help. The third type is a twisted woman who will not obey her husband unless he oppresses her, beats her, uses force against her, and overpowers her with his voice."
41 posted on 09/03/2004 7:49:01 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Gimme a dollar.)
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To: JohnHuang2

All he needs to make his case, is to show a picture of the Hildabeast and play one of her rants.


42 posted on 09/03/2004 7:51:39 AM PDT by punster
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To: Xenalyte; humblegunner
Wanna beating????

I can send humble right over!!!

{I would pay to see that!!!}

43 posted on 09/03/2004 7:52:15 AM PDT by Eaker (Deer Camp North Gives a Whole New Meaning to Labor Day Weekend!!!)
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To: JohnHuang2

And some wives need to be dressed up in French Maid's outfits and um disciplined.


44 posted on 09/03/2004 8:00:11 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Jaded

when you hear a guy like this moron spouting from a mosque...dont you wish he would be introduced to a guy in prison called Bubba....and get in touch with his feminine side....

and

he is the type of guy you would never tire of kicking...


45 posted on 09/03/2004 8:00:21 AM PDT by Irishguy (John Kerry Speak: I didnt not throw anything i threw, but i did.., Yes i dont agree but i dont ...)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Some Muslim clerics deserve to be beaten. Then there are the problem cases, who deserve quite a bit worse.

They need to be beaten profusely with a Louisville Slugger with rusty spikes sticking out.


46 posted on 09/03/2004 8:03:03 AM PDT by DarthVader (John Kerry is really Janet Reno dressed up as a man.)
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To: JohnHuang2

Well,

All I know is if he hits me once,
he had better learn to live without sleep.


47 posted on 09/03/2004 8:05:53 AM PDT by najida (Sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I am.)
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To: Xenalyte
"Try reading. It works."

Damn that public school education! I didn't think about reading it. I was still looking for the pretty pictures...

48 posted on 09/03/2004 11:54:10 AM PDT by Exeter
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To: pimpalize
What was the them in many John Wayne movies like McLintock!,The Quiet Man ...


49 posted on 09/03/2004 12:30:09 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: DoughtyOne
Damn, she's looking a lot better... Heh heh heh...

She's beefing it up to tag team with Kerry... against Bush in 04 !!!! : ) <<< me

50 posted on 09/03/2004 1:35:50 PM PDT by stopsign ( ("What great fortune for government, that people don't think". ...Der Fuher... [hummmm...]))
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