Live fire near school in Russia (standoff)

Kerry, you know he will be asked sometime tomorrow. I don't know and frankly I would not like to ever know. We can send him back to MA for all I care.

Terrorists are still in the school firing on the people outside. They had the school gym walls wired with explosives.

Finally MSNBC is reporting something--gonna go listen in.

MSNBC now covering the story live.

And to think they're saying some of the terrorists are women. That makes sense since women would think of schools to attack to make the greatest impact, however I can't get my mind around women and mothers intentionally hurting innocent children. Sick, sick. Hope Putin comes down hard, very hard, on them and all terrorists.

When the ambulances arrived to pick up the bodies outside from the day they stormed the school the explosion inside went off. That's what started the gunfire this morning.

Yes, back and fourth as the hostages leave. I am mortified. How do we know the some will not escape pretending to be a hostage. They probably wear something to hide their faces.

119 degrees outside didn't know the temp inside but these people are soaking wet when they run out. 20 adult men taken from the group and KILLED because they only wanted to deal with women and children.

Exactlly correct. They are cooling off, getting water that they for most were denide and just being hugged after such a horrible experince.

Yes, I was thinking the same. Some terrorists will escape in the chaos.

Those are the chechen "black widows". A suidide group whose husbands were killed in the chechen war.

Allegedly, they put all the men in a separate room and killed them all, so they wouldn't cause trouble.

HERE we go; http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/03/russia.school/index.html
'Hostages flee as roof collapses' Freed hostages say 1,000 may be held captive Friday, September 3, 2004 Posted: 5:48 AM EDT (0948 GMT)

BESLAN, Russia (CNN) -- Dozens of hostages have escaped from a school in southern Russia as the school's roof collapsed, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.

Several loud explosions and small-arms fire were heard Friday near the school where armed hostage-takers have been holding hundreds of children, parents and teachers.

Interfax said a group of about 30 hostages escaped from the school and quoted authorities as saying the school roof had collapsed.

Russian soldiers were taking up positions around the school, and Russian attack helicopters circled over the area.

The explosions and gunfire came as relatives and journalists were told by authorities to move further back from the school.

"This is horrific, this is precipitating very quickly," CNN's Ryan Chilcote reported from the scene.

Several people wounded by gunfire were carried from the scene and were receiving medical attention, Chilcote said, adding that one of the wounded was a cameraman.

"This is one of the more significant outbreaks of gunfire we've heard," Chilcote said. "Relatives who've been waiting so patiently have begun to break down."

Earlier, Russian officials said hundreds more hostages may be inside the school than first thought.

As the crisis entered its third day Friday, a spokesman for the regional government told CNN an earlier estimate of 350 hostages was low.

Two of 26 hostages freed by their captors on Thursday indicated there were 1,000 children, parents and teachers inside the building in Beslan, near the troubled Russian republic of Chechnya.

Relatives waiting outside the school also have said there could be as many as 1,000 hostages, noting that the school has 11 grades with 75-100 students in each grade.

Asked about the discrepancy with the earlier estimate, the regional government spokesman said officials originally accounted only for those children whose parents reported them missing.

But teachers also were in the school when armed attackers seized the building Wednesday morning.

And many of the children -- especially in the lower grades -- were accompanied by their parents and in some cases entire families for a celebration to mark the start of the school year.

"The situation in school very, very dire," Chilcote said..

"Two of the 26 women and children released yesterday are saying the situation is very bad inside the school's gymnasium where the hostages are being kept.

"At one point the men were separated from the women and children. The men were then brought back into the gymnasium, but there weren't as many of them, and there's no word what happened to the other men."

"There is no food and water. At one point the hostage-takers brought them one cup of water for, as they put it, 1,000 hostages."

Russian officials say they are continuing to talk with the captors by telephone, but so far have failed to convince them to let officials bring water and food inside the school.

Earlier, two loud explosions jolted the area. Authorities said the explosions were caused by grenades fired from hand-held launchers from inside the school.

The hostage-takers told negotiators by cell phone that they fired because they claimed there was troop movement near the building.

Sporadic small arms fire occurred throughout the day, but there had been no shots for several hours before the blasts, which went off around 12:30 a.m. on Friday (2030 GMT Thursday).

Russian troops, tanks and armored vehicles ring the school, beyond which are hundreds of frantic relatives and friends of those trapped inside the building.

The attackers have threatened to kill the children if an assault is launched.

"Our most important task in the current situation is, of course, to save the lives and health of those who were taken hostage," Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday.

Leading the talks was the former president of Ingushetia, Ruslan Aushev, who has entered the school and met face-to-face with the captors. Ingushetia is a Russian republic bordering Chechnya.

Tense negotiations with the hostage-takers saw 26 women and children -- some of them infants -- released from the school Thursday. Security forces in military fatigues carried the children to safety.

"The freeing of 26 is a big victory, but if you look at the whole picture, it is just a drop, there's still a lot of work to be done," said negotiator and pediatrician Leonid Roshal.

Roshal said he has been negotiating with a man by the name of Shai Khu, who has described himself as the group's press attache.

"Unfortunately, they have again refused to receive medicines, food and water for the children," Roshal said. "He calls himself a warrior. I told him warriors don't behave like this."

Roshal was also involved in negotiations with Chechens who seized a Moscow theater in the middle of a performance in October 2002, holding more than 700 people hostage.

One of the requests made of the attackers is that the families of those killed in the initial assault on the school be allowed to remove the bodies of their loved ones from in front of the building.

Authorities said there are seven bodies. Ten others were wounded in the taking of the primary school around 9 a.m. Wednesday.

Officials believe there are between 15 and 20 armed assailants, at least two of whom are women. Some are reported to be wearing explosives-packed belts.

Theater siege The crisis was reminiscent of the October 2002 siege of a Moscow theater, when Chechen rebels threatened to kill their hostages and demanded an end to the war in Chechnya.

Many of those attackers were women, with explosives belts strapped to their body, while the men were armed with pistols and rifles. Two massive bombs also had been placed in the theater.

That standoff ended when Russian forces piped poison gas into the theater to knock out everyone inside, but more than 120 hostages and 41 attackers were killed, most of them from the gas.

The current standoff follows a bloody week in Russia. A female suicide bomber killed nine people outside a Moscow subway station Tuesday, and two suspected Chechen female suicide bombers downed two airliners on August 24, killing all 89 people aboard the planes.

Russian officials have said the new wave of attacks is an attempt at revenge for last weekend's elections in Chechnya in which a Kremlin-backed candidate won the presidency.

Beslan is 30 kilometers (19 miles) north of Vladikavkaz in southern Russia, which borders Chechnya.

They killed the men the first day because they didn't want them to give them any trouble. COWARDS!!!

Thanks for posting this. The Russians news site I was using crashed.

Extreme heat in the building.

You are most welcome. I had figured we would be waking up to last nights speech or the hurricane.

Instead Russia. CNN is showing a boy being rushed to medical care.

I know and they should be killed.

If these "freedom fighters" ever try to pull this "stunt" here, God help EVERY SINGLE MUDLUM IN THIS COUNTRY !!!

WACO came to mind as well. Then Columbine, having the kids leave in a line. But, they did it slowly so the thugs who did this would not leave with the group.

A bit disorganized in my humble opinion.