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To: Nice50BMG
I don't buy that (an educated Indian is thrilled to make 10K a year - educations means nothing - the most highly educated in this economy are unemployed) nor does it answer Dobb's question "India can provide our software; China can provide our toys; Sri Lanka can make our clothes; Japan make our cars. But at some point we have to ask, what will we export? At what will Americans work? And for what kind of wages? No one I've asked in government, business or academia has been able to answer those questions," Dobbs writes.
6 posted on 09/08/2004 3:49:40 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I don't buy that (an educated Indian is thrilled to make 10K a year - educations means nothing - the most highly educated in this economy are unemployed) nor does it answer Dobb's question Maybe my point was missed. There is a gulf between the demand for programmers and the ability of our undereducated population to sustain that demand. I can't find qualified workers at anywhere close to a reasonable price. I pay about $110k per year here and about $20k in India. And at that price, I attract great talent there. I'd gladly pay $35-40k for access to local talent, but even that price will get me unwilling, or sub-par talent. The US talent pool does not exist at a reasonable cost for a small business. That's another point. SMALL businesses cannot compete with large corporations without the economic advantage of outsourcing. Some may have missed it, but there has been a significant shift toward small business ownership and away from being a part of a giant corporation. They outsource for efficiency and talent, and so do I. Lou's economic view is becoming more and more outdated, and he is losing touch with the changing nature of business all around the world. Small and medium businesses are becoming more global, more multi-national, and less "nationalistic" in their operations than ever before. I find it interesting that there is often a close connection between the isolationist far-right and the anti-corporate leftists on the issue of global commerce.
12 posted on 09/08/2004 4:08:03 PM PDT by Nice50BMG (they say the the scope adds 10 pounds.)
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To: Destro

Gee, Lou, maybe we'll all be investment class, local suppliers, and then creative suppliers.
Small minds have small visions, I guess.


34 posted on 09/08/2004 5:09:56 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: Destro
are well-educated, speak impeccable English, and are thrilled to make $10,000

I wish they would stop saying this crap because it isn't true for any of the Indian software people I work with. Im a programmer and, yea sure, some of them are pretty sharp in terms of writing code (better than I am), but the majority are worse than the Americans I work with because they DONT speak or write English very well and they dont have a whole lotta initiative.

177 posted on 09/08/2004 8:14:47 PM PDT by SwankyC
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