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Statement by the President of CBS News, Andrew Heyward:
Drudge Report ^ | September 15, 2004

Posted on 09/15/2004 3:14:07 PM PDT by RWR8189

Edited on 09/15/2004 3:16:05 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Statement by the President of CBS News, Andrew Heyward:

"We established to our satisfaction that the memos were accurate or we would not have put them on television. There was a great deal of coroborating [sic] evidence from people in a position to know. Having said that, given all the questions about them, we believe we should redouble our efforts to answer those questions, so that's what we are doing."



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KEYWORDS: cbsnews; killian; koolaid; napalminthemorning; rather
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To: holden
The public needs to be reminded of the frauds that CBS has aired.

CBS is institutionally flawed, and needs to die. Arthur Anderson did.

381 posted on 09/15/2004 8:23:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MrShoop

Yeah, what a leap of logic. The documents are the CONCRETE PROOF that the conclusions are correct. But wait, the documents are forged. Oh, well, the CONCLUSIONS are the CONCRETE PROOF that the content of the memos is "accurrate".


382 posted on 09/15/2004 8:25:38 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux ("I'll have the moo goo gai pan without the pan, and some pans.")
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To: Cboldt
Yup! (BTTT!)
HF
383 posted on 09/15/2004 8:30:03 PM PDT by holden
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To: holden
Sent this to CBS news. I just can't believe this and feel the need to share.

CBS News,

I can't believe it!!! Oh how the mighty have fallen! The emperor wears no clothes! You folks are still asking - no pompously demanding - that the president respond to allegations contained in an obviously forged memo!? This is great!! I never thought I would witness the complete meltdown of a news organization in my lifetime. CBS news will be lucky to survive. How could you expect to come out of this untarnished? You have gone from independent reporting (even if there has been a little bit of a left wing bias) to out-in-the-open mud-slinging for the DNC and Kerry campaign. Terry McCauliffe must be proud.

You've got tunnel vision. You focus on the lies that you started with and refuse to acknowledge any opposing facts as they come in. I recommend taking a step back and looking at the evidence anew. Fonts don't lie. There is no dispute that these memos are forgeries even if Dan Rather (and apparently everyone else at CBS news) can't keep up or understand the technology. I thought you guys were good with nuance and intricacies. Killian's family even disputes them. People he worked with dispute them. The cranky partisan old lady interviewed tonight even says they are fakes. Oh... but you latch onto the fact that she says that the content reflects what was going on at the time and that there were probably memos like these. Where are they?!?! REMEMBER - You're a news organization for God's sakes!!! I can't believe it simply because Dan Rather trots out every couple of days and says that he stands by the story. Am I supposed to believe CBS news because you say it's so or my own lyin' eyes?

I've got the popcorn going and I can't wait to see how this ends. I've got a feeling you guys ain't gonna like the finish.

Courage,

Name
Address

PS - Any luck getting Kerry to sign his SF 180? I'm sure you'll push this just as hard as you've been pushing the Bush Texas ANG story.
384 posted on 09/15/2004 8:30:14 PM PDT by Sodbuster
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To: RWR8189

From Powerline
http://www.powerlineblog.com/

Statement and translation

Andrew Heyward is the president of CBS News. Here's his statement today:

"We established to our satisfaction that the memos were accurate or we would not have put them on television. There was a great deal of coroborating [sic] evidence from people in a position to know. Having said that, given all the questions about them, we believe we should redouble our efforts to answer those questions, so that's what we are doing."
Translation: CBS has played its cards; it holds none. CBS now undertakes efforts to discover evidence bolstering a story that has blown up in its face. Its efforts should be redirected to facing reality and acknowledging culpability. It is now at the least complicit in a fraud of monumental proportions. (Courtesy of NRO's Kerry Spot.)

HINDROCKET adds: Here is my theory. The documents are forged; we know it, CBS knows it, everyone knows it. So that is the context in which CBS is trying to figure out its next move. The general direction seems clear--they want to say that the documents may not be authentic, but the sentiments they reflect are true. So what they have "redoubled," in Heyward's words, is their longstanding effort to get the goods on President Bush's National Guard service. In short, they are going to retroactively try to create the story that they wanted, but couldn't get, and therefore settled for the forgeries.

Will it work? Yes, in the sense that they will be able to do something other than admit guilt, apologize, and fire Dan Rather. No, in that everyone will know that CBS prostituted itself to try to help John Kerry, and on one--that is, no one who is not already a virulent Bush hater--cares about Bush's National Guard service, especially given that 1) he flew fighter aircraft, which everyone admires, and 2) he completed his service and was honorably discharged.

URGENT UPDATE: Drudge is reporting--with the rotating red light--that the forged documents have been traced to a Kinko's in Texas. CBS may have run out of time.

FURTHER UPDATE: The Washington Post says that "there is only one Kinko's in Abilene, and it is 21 miles from the Baird, Tex., home of retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, who has been named by several news outlets as a possible source for the documents." And it seems that Burkett has an account at the Kinko's in Abilene.


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385 posted on 09/15/2004 8:38:32 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: BoBToMatoE

This nut from abeline is their "unimpeachable source"???


386 posted on 09/15/2004 8:39:55 PM PDT by guinness4808
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To: guinness4808

remember guinness, its not the facts, but the seriousness of the charge.


387 posted on 09/15/2004 8:51:52 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: jbarkley

Thought Dan declared: NO Investigation why should there be? LOLOL Accurate? Authentic? Fraudulent? Felonius? Such nice words to play with...


388 posted on 09/15/2004 9:19:49 PM PDT by Libertina (Thank God we have President Bush in the White House.)
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To: RWR8189

-> "There was a great deal of coroborating"

The 3 laws of corobotics:

1. Broadcaste corobots must never harm a leftwinger

2. Everyone else is fair game

3. Corobots are always right


389 posted on 09/15/2004 9:30:50 PM PDT by geros
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To: RWR8189

Similar to what some earlier posters have done, let’s take a look- a very close look- at the Andrew Heyward’s first two sentences. The passage looks curiously clintonesque, like highly lawyered, finely parsed sophistry.

The first sentence,

…”We established to our satisfaction that the memos were accurate or we would not have put them on television…”

could actually mean that CBS is “satisfied” with the forgery. Also, note the past tense. It might also mean that at one point in time, CBS established the accuracy of the memos; that is, before they realized they were forgeries and ran the story anyway. Or, even that their standards for “satisfaction” are so low, that forgeries are just fine.

The second sentence,

…”There was a great deal of coroborating [sic] evidence from people in a position to know…”

can be totally different from stating that the evidence was completely (or even adequately) corroborated. The corroborating evidence could have been long-since discredited, and still qualify for this particularly vague CBS sentence.

Also, I’m no Sherlock Holmes, but I do think that the misspelling of the word “corroborate” is significant. When I have a misspelling in a document, it’s probably the last word I was playing with before saving the piece, and thus the most likely to be left out of a spell check. Following this line of logic, they were most worried about this one word. Perhaps, if we examine the synonyms of “corroborate” we find some clues. While corroborate can mean confirm, it can also mean the highly squishy terms “strengthen” or “support”.

And the subsequent phrase, “…people in a position to know.” is substantively different from writing “people who know.” Perhaps a two-dollar call to Madam Cleo might even meet Mssrs . Rather and Heyward’s vague evidence standards as described in this passage.

All are welcome to take these deliberations and musings farther. (Apologies to anyone who may have already posted any of these analyses. I haven’t read all of the related posts.)


390 posted on 09/15/2004 11:21:39 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: RWR8189

Fax# (212) 975-1998

391 posted on 09/15/2004 11:50:46 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What's the frequency Kenneth?)
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To: HoustonTech
CBS is obviously divided by this. You don't have to be a fly on the wall to know that some of the big wigs are telling Rather to "PROVE IT!"

Then where are the resignations? I hold EVERY CBS employee accountable who continues to support this farce by working for these liars. Honest people would be leaving CBS in droves.

392 posted on 09/16/2004 12:39:15 AM PDT by Fenris6
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To: My2Cents; Vinomori
...why did it take them a full week to come up with this explanation?

I think Vinomori is right. The CBS legal department is in control now. They are buying more time to sort out their options.

393 posted on 09/16/2004 3:17:28 AM PDT by snopercod (I'm on the "democrat diet". I only eat when the democrats say something good about America.)
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To: snopercod
I think they were going to say the "documents" were re-creations of genuine stuff, but the lawyers must have realized that there would be guys in handcuffs five minutes afterward.

They don't have very many good choices.

394 posted on 09/16/2004 3:19:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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To: Fenris6
CBS is obviously divided by this. You don't have to be a fly on the wall to know that some of the big wigs are telling Rather to "PROVE IT!"

Then where are the resignations? I hold EVERY CBS employee accountable who continues to support this farce by working for these liars. Honest people would be leaving CBS in droves.

You don't have to have principles to squirm.

395 posted on 09/16/2004 3:34:24 AM PDT by HoustonTech (Remember 9/11. Vote for Strength. Vote for Bush.)
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To: Jim Noble
Yes, that's exactly what I think.

I was in the service in 1971-1972, and all branches of the military were frantically trying to offload people at the time. I got a 7 month "early out", and it doesn't bother me a bit if President Bush got one too.

Neither does it bother me if he "pulled some strings" to get into the Guard in the first place. That's the way it was done back then - you had to know somebody to get into the Guard.

If you didn't know anybody, you got drafted like I did. That's just the way it was. I'm not saying Bush used family influence to get into the Guard, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I just don't care one way or the other.

396 posted on 09/16/2004 3:34:48 AM PDT by snopercod (I'm on the "democrat diet". I only eat when the democrats say something good about America.)
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To: freestyle

LOL!


397 posted on 09/16/2004 5:21:51 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: RWR8189

"We've reached our political conclusions and we'll be damned if some pajama wearing yahoos on Free Republic are going to make us admit the forgeries are forgeries!"


398 posted on 09/16/2004 7:00:04 AM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: RWR8189; wizr; 06isweak; 0scill8r; 100American; 100%FEDUP; 101st-Eagle; 101stSignal; 101viking; ...

To anyone interested in putting heat on CBS send an email to the following address. It's for the station manager at WFVR in Green Bay Wi. He is bundling them up to send on to CBS in New York. The station manager was very receptive, seemed frustrated that they are not having any impact on the CBS Politburo, but that "complaints from viewers help".

kidderp@wfvr.cbs.com

By the way I bet if we analyze the address we can guess Gunga Dans email address too.


399 posted on 09/16/2004 7:18:33 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Valin

Kerry Spot is reporting someone called the Kinko's and confirmed Burkett has an account there and used them last week. Thats a "shack" as we used to say in the Air force.


400 posted on 09/16/2004 7:20:42 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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