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CBS Statement to Affiliates [much more detailed statement given to affiliates than to public]
Little Green Footballs ^ | September 15, 2004 | Charles

Posted on 09/15/2004 5:44:51 PM PDT by John Jorsett

While CBS continues to treat the viewing public like idiots, they’ve sent a much more detailed statement to their affiliate stations. An undercover lizardoid operative has forwarded the statement to me:

September 15, 2004

MARION CARR KNOX, SECRETARY OF LT. COL. JERRY KILLIAN, TO APPEAR ON “60 MINUTES” TONIGHT IN FIRST TELEVISION INTERVIEW

CBS NEWS AFFIRMS ITS INTENTION TO CONTINUE TO REPORT ALL ASPECTS OF THE STORY

Marion Carr Knox, the secretary of Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, whose personal memos were part of a report on last Wednesday’s (8) 60 MINUTES broadcast regarding questions about President Bush’s service at the Texas Air National Guard, will appear in a report on 60 MINUTES tonight (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

In the interview, Ms. Knox states that she does not believe the memos are genuine. However, she confirms that the content of the memos does reflect the feelings of Lt. Col. Killian at the time and accurately portrays events that were taking place in connection with then-Lt. Bush’s Texas Air National Guard service.

“I know that I didn’t type ‘em. However, the information in those is correct,” Ms. Knox told CBS News for tonight’s broadcast.

In light of the questions about that original 60 MINUTES Wednesday report, CBS News states that it will redouble its efforts to continue reporting aggressively on all aspects of the story, in an effort to resolve those questions. Tonight’s 60 MINUTES interview with Ms. Knox is part of that effort.

The CBS News report was based on a preponderance of evidence: many interviews, both on- and off-camera, with individuals with direct and indirect knowledge of the situation, atmosphere and events of the period in question, as well as the procedures, character and thinking of Lt. Col. Killian, Lt. Bush’s squadron commander in the Guard, at the time.

The report also included the first television interview with Ben Barnes, a Democrat and current fundraiser for John Kerry, who said he helped get Mr. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard at the request of a Bush family friend.

Numerous questions have been raised about the authenticity of the documents. CBS News believes it is important for the news media to be accountable and address legitimate questions.


Procurement of The Documents

The 60 MINUTES Wednesday broadcast reported that it obtained six documents from the personal files of Lt. Col. Killian, four of which were used in the broadcast. In accordance with longstanding journalistic ethics, CBS News is not prepared to reveal its confidential sources or the method by which 60 MINUTES Wednesday received the documents. CBS News’ reporting determined that the source of the memos had access to the documents he provided and an opportunity to obtain copies of them. Our sources included individuals who had first-hand knowledge of the events in question.

Additionally, Mary Mapes, the producer of the report and a well-respected, veteran journalist whose credibility has never been questioned, has been following this story for more than five years. She has a vast and detailed knowledge of the issues surrounding President Bush’s service in the Guard and of the individuals involved in the story. Before the report was broadcast, it was vetted and screened in accordance with CBS News standards by several veteran 60 MINUTES Wednesday senior producers and CBS News executives.

Authentication of the Documents

Four independent individuals with expertise in the authentication of documents were consulted prior to the broadcast of the story regarding the documents 60 MINUTES Wednesday obtained: document examiners Marcel B. Matley, James J. Pierce, Emily Will and Linda James.

As CBS News has publicly stated, the documents used in the report were photocopies of originals.

Two of the examiners, Mssrs. Matley and Pierce, attested and continue to attest to their belief in the documents’ authenticity. (see attachments 1 and 2) Two others, Ms. Will and Ms. James, appeared on a competing network yesterday, where they misrepresented their conversations and communication with CBS News. In fact, they assessed only one of the four documents used in the report, and while one of them raised a question about one aspect of that one document, they did not raise substantial objections or render definitive judgment on the document. Ultimately, they played a peripheral role in the authentication process and deferred to Mr. Matley, who examined all four of the documents used.

Additionally, two more individuals with specific expertise relative to the documents - Bill Glennon, a technology consultant and long-time IBM typewriter service technician, and Richard Katz, a computer software expert - were asked to examine the documents after the broadcast for a report in the Sept. 13 CBS EVENING NEWS. They, too, found nothing to lead them to believe that the documents did not date back to the early 1970s. They strongly refuted the claim made by some critics that there were no typewriters in existence in the early 1970s that could have produced such documents. (see attachments 3 and 4)

CBS News Experts’ Conclusions About the Documents

- Katz believes the documents were written on a typewriter and not a computer. (attachment 3)

- Glennon confirms that the superscript “th” and proportional spacing of the typeface of the four documents were definitely available on typewriters as early as the late 1960s. (attachment 4)

- Pierce believes that the documents in question are authentic as best as he can determine, given that they are copies and not originals. (attachment 2)

- Matley says the signatures are, indeed, Killian’s. (attachment 1)

Again, the documents used for the 60 MINUTES Wednesday report were copies, and most of the analysis fueling the current controversy is based on scanned, downloaded, faxed or re-copied copies. For now, the disagreements among “dueling experts” have not been resolved.

Other Issues

Maj. Gen. Bobby Hodges, who was group commander of Lt. Bush’s squadron, has stated to The New York Times and Los Angeles Times, among others, that he believes the documents are not real, but also told The New York Times, in an article that appeared on Sept. 12, that the information in the CBS News report “...reflected issues he and Col. Killian had discussed-namely Mr. Bush’s failure to appear for a physical, which military records released previously by the White House show, led to a suspension from flying.” That is consistent with what he told CBS News off-camera as part of the research for this report.

A reference in one memo to Gen. Buck Staudt applying pressure on behalf of Lt. Bush raised questions because Staudt had left his job 18 months before the memo was written. But CBS News’ background reporting determined that Staudt remained a powerful figure in the Guard for years after his retirement, a fact that is confirmed by Ms. Knox in a newspaper interview. More importantly, the same memo referred to unhappiness in Austin, an obvious reference to Staudt’s successor at the Austin, Texas, headquarters of the Texas Air National Guard.

Conclusions

The editorial content of the report was not based solely on the physical documents, but also on numerous credible sources who supported what the documents said.

Through all of the frenzied debate of the past week, the basic content of the 60 MINUTES Wednesday report - that President Bush received preferential treatment to gain entrance to the Texas Air National Guard and that he may not have fulfilled all of the requirements — has not been substantially challenged.

CBS News will make every effort to resolve the contradictions and answer the unanswered questions about the documents and will continue to report on all aspects of the story.

Absolutely amazing. So they’re following the lead of the New York Times, who declared the memos Fake ... But Accurate!


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbs; cbsnews; killian; mariancarrknox; marioncarrknox; rather; rathergate
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1 posted on 09/15/2004 5:44:51 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

thank you for posting this


2 posted on 09/15/2004 5:46:37 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: John Jorsett
They must think the affiliates are idiots, too.

But you-know-what flows downhill, and the affiliates will feel the effect of people tuning out long before the net will. Or before the net will care.

Advice for the affiliates: Grow a pair.

3 posted on 09/15/2004 5:47:09 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: John Jorsett

Any word on the attachments?

If so, please post or provide link.


4 posted on 09/15/2004 5:47:17 PM PDT by bjc (Attachments?)
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To: John Jorsett
But CBS News’ background reporting determined that Staudt remained a powerful figure in the Guard for years after his retirement, ...

Wishful thinking by CBS but that is clearly bunk!

5 posted on 09/15/2004 5:47:52 PM PDT by Radix (This Tag line is fake, but the contents are real.)
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To: John Jorsett
However, she confirms that the content of the memos does reflect the feelings of Lt. Col. Killian at the time and accurately portrays events that were taking place in connection with then-Lt. Bush’s Texas Air National Guard service.

Regarding which, see this: Real Killian Memo Praises Bush.

6 posted on 09/15/2004 5:48:43 PM PDT by John Jorsett (Kerry-Edwards: FORGING AHEAD)
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To: mewzilla
Through all of the frenzied debate of the past week, the basic content of the 60 MINUTES Wednesday report - that President Bush received preferential treatment to gain entrance to the Texas Air National Guard and that he may not have fulfilled all of the requirements — has not been substantially challenged.

CBS to its affiliates: Screw you.

7 posted on 09/15/2004 5:48:50 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: John Jorsett

CBS says forgers are entitled to confidentality. CBS is openly aiding and abettng a felony.


8 posted on 09/15/2004 5:48:58 PM PDT by Lexington Green (I'm voting with our soldiers.)
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To: John Jorsett

Thanks for the info. I thought the people at CBS were grownups, but that doesn't look to be the case.

They have no idea how serious this is. They're going to find out.


9 posted on 09/15/2004 5:49:43 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: John Jorsett

Even their own liberal witness says the memos are NOT genuine! Sheesh, when you come right down to it, Marian Carr Knox doesn't add much in support of what Dan Rather and Mary Mapes are looking for other than her opinion about Bush. Is this the hat great journalists hang their careers on? Tonight's show brings to mind the old saw to the effect you can't make something out of nothing. They're just too deep in it now to back out and admit there's ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH NADA to their story.


10 posted on 09/15/2004 5:49:59 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Of possible interest ping.


11 posted on 09/15/2004 5:49:59 PM PDT by Radix (This Tag line is fake, but the contents are real.)
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To: John Jorsett
For the proposed third debate:

Third presidential debate:
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ
Wednesday, October 13
Bob Schieffer
CBS News Chief Washington Correspondent, and Moderator, Face the Nation

from: http://www.debates.org/pages/news_040813.html

but if President Bush holds to only 2 debates (as he should), the SeeBS guy gets "cut out of the pattern" and then Bob can blame Dan for screwing things up. Maybe THAT will get Dopey Dan fired!
12 posted on 09/15/2004 5:51:16 PM PDT by Trunk 71-74
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To: John Jorsett

"...whose personal memos were part of a report on last Wednesday’s (8) 60 MINUTES broadcast..."


13 posted on 09/15/2004 5:51:17 PM PDT by Visioneer
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To: Lexington Green
Let's review:

"Additionally, Mary Mapes, the producer of the report and a well-respected, veteran journalist whose credibility has never been questioned, has been following this story for more than five years. She has a vast and detailed knowledge of the issues surrounding President Bush’s service in the Guard and of the individuals involved in the story. Before the report was broadcast, it was vetted and screened in accordance with CBS News standards by several veteran 60 MINUTES Wednesday senior producers and CBS News executives.

Five years....and they NEVER talked to Marian Knox until TODAY?????

14 posted on 09/15/2004 5:51:24 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: John Jorsett
The editorial content of the report was not based solely on the physical documents, but also on numerous credible sources who supported what the documents said.

Unsaid: The other sources are no more credible than the documents.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

15 posted on 09/15/2004 5:52:17 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Buy and read "Right Angles and Other Obstinate Truths." Well, buy it anyway, OK?)
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To: John Jorsett
Once again, CBS is trying to escape the kill zone and move it broader ground. But they have admitted only have photocopies, which cannot be authenticated and are only claiming the documents could have been typed -- but the claim is categorical and categorically false.

Moreover, they are still using the contents of the photocopies to build their claim, such as the supposed interference of Col Staudt. So the focus of the attack on CBS must remain their photocopies of unknown provenance.

16 posted on 09/15/2004 5:53:06 PM PDT by wretchard
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..CBS News states that it will redouble its efforts to continue reporting aggressively on all aspects of the story,..

They didn't have ONE person on to talk about the fraud aspect, or the source, or whether they had the orginal documents, or why the originals were not available, or....

What a bunch of Dan Rather

17 posted on 09/15/2004 5:53:15 PM PDT by Henchster
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To: John Jorsett
It looks like Knot's story has evolved.
18 posted on 09/15/2004 5:54:04 PM PDT by David M. Brooks
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To: John Jorsett
Oh Sheesh! Pretty thin proof - because the producer has hated Bush for 5 years - I mean been on the story for 5 years - 1/2 their examiners are gone and what they have left didn't see any originals! Again, sheesh!
DKK
19 posted on 09/15/2004 5:54:28 PM PDT by LifeTrek (<-- Uses Times New Roman just like 60 minutes! (http://lifetrek.blogspot.com))
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To: John Jorsett

So, let me get this straight.

We're supposed to believe this lady over and above Killian's wife and son?

Killian's son has said that Knox was just in a secretarial pool, not Killian's secretary.

This is just unbelievable!


20 posted on 09/15/2004 5:55:00 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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