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Dan Rather: The final days
Pittsburg Live ^ | September 18, 2004 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 09/18/2004 12:46:08 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776

"I gave them a sword, and they ran it right through me," said Richard Nixon. Thirty years later, Nixon nemesis Dan Rather might say the same of the blunders that are about to bring an inglorious end to his long career. What -- other than blind bias against George Bush rooted in animus or ideology, or an obduracy bred of arrogance and hubris -- can explain Rather's near-suicidal behavior since his "60 Minutes II" segment aired Sept. 8?

In that piece, Rather revealed four newly discovered memos from the "personal file" of Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, Bush's squadron commander in the National Guard. The memos seemed proof that Killian thought Bush a shirker whose defiance of orders was being protected by higher-ups such as Col. "Buck" Stoudt.

Rather thought he had a story that could bring down a president. Instead, he has ravaged the reputation of CBS News and made of himself a cartoon caricature of liberal bias. How could Rather have been so stubborn and blind?

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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"CBS has to take Rather off the air for the duration of this campaign if it is to even begin to restore its reputation and credibility. For where President Bush is concerned, Dan Rather has no credibility left". ....Pat Buchanan


1 posted on 09/18/2004 12:46:08 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

Definitely worth clicking through to read the rest. Pat pulled no punches.


2 posted on 09/18/2004 12:56:08 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004)
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To: Tom_Busch

I have to say, I hardly ever agree with Buchanan, but he states the cause for dismissal of Dan Rather from the news, "rather" well here.


3 posted on 09/18/2004 1:05:29 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776

I would like to wish dan rather (his name is not worthy of capitalization) a happy and glorious hiri-kiri. Hopefully it will be on his last 60 minutes broadcast. Maybe he can get walter com-crite to be his second.


4 posted on 09/18/2004 1:06:18 AM PDT by A6M3
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To: AmericanMade1776

I would like to wish dan rather (his name is not worthy of capitalization) a happy and glorious hiri-kiri. Hopefully it will be on his last 60 minutes broadcast. Maybe he can get walter com-crite to be his second.


5 posted on 09/18/2004 1:06:54 AM PDT by A6M3
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To: AmericanMade1776

Folks, this is where Pat Buchanan is his best... attacking the enemy, i.e. the left and liberals, not the GOP or fellow Republicans.


6 posted on 09/18/2004 1:08:54 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericanMade1776

It's truly alarming to see an (albeit liberal) icon like Dan Rather exhibit such incredible arrogance and such total detachment from fair-minded journalistic reality.

One can only hope that he will awaken to his folly and issue an abject and humble retraction and apology on behalf of himself and CBS.

Right now, it seems like Rather and CBS want to ait until after the election to categorically admit the documents are forgeries.

These opinions on Rather's demise are not just coming from "bloggers", but from numerous respected voices in the mainstream media.

Rather couldn't get a journalism job anywhere in the country at this point.

He'll retire in disgrace from CBS.


7 posted on 09/18/2004 1:11:04 AM PDT by sargon (How could anyone vote for the socialist, weak-on-defense fraud named John Kerry?)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Pat is a stooge for the left.


8 posted on 09/18/2004 1:12:53 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

I thought Pat was more of an Operative for CNN


9 posted on 09/18/2004 1:13:45 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776

bttt


10 posted on 09/18/2004 1:14:51 AM PDT by twntaipan (CBS News: The News of Choice of Frauds and Forgers Everywhere!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
When the democrats invalidated his votes in Palm Beach he blamed Bush.

enuff said
11 posted on 09/18/2004 1:18:03 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Pat has clearly stated that, despite their differences in opinion, he will still be voting for Bush...


12 posted on 09/18/2004 1:20:21 AM PDT by sargon (How could anyone vote for the socialist, weak-on-defense fraud named John Kerry?)
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To: John Lenin

Group petitions FCC against CBS
Files for sanctions for network's 'supremely arrogant conduct'

A New York-based group petitioned the Federal Communications Commission to sanction CBS News and its parent organization, Viacom, Inc., for its recent broadcast of news reports based on forged documents.

The Media Ethics Project, a newly formed group, cites two recent "60 Minutes II" broadcasts and several editions of "CBS Evening News" in its petition.

"The actions of CBS News over the last week have been truly outrageous," said MEP Chairman William L. Whitely. "Most people familiar with [anchor] Dan Rather's reports have seen solid evidence from various credible sources showing the documents to be forged. Yet, day in and day out, CBS has stubbornly continued to maintain that the memos are authentic."
MEP says it contacted Viacom counsel Monday and Tuesday to propose the entire controversy be referred to an independent reviewer.

But CBS News President Andrew Heyward said on Wednesday's "Evening News" broadcast he remained satisfied the "memos were accurate" and vowed that CBS would "redouble" its efforts to answer questions raised by critics.

Whitely said the nework's "supremely arrogant conduct" violates the public trust and the rules and policies of the FCC.

Viacom, as the holder of 39 television station licenses and 185 radio stations, cannot be allowed to flout FCC rules, he asserted.

MEP seeks a finding from the FCC that the actions of CBS and Viacom constitute fraud and, therefore, are deserving of sanction, including fines and forfeiture of one or more broadcast licenses.

Using documents regarded by document experts as forgeries, the CBS reports contend President Bush was given preferential treatment, allowing him to enter the Texas Air National Guard in order to avoid service in Vietnam.

After broadcast of the first "60 Minutes II" report Sept. 8, Internet weblogs began raising questions about the authenticity of the documents by analyzing them online.

MEP contends the network's continued defense of the documents in the face of mounting contrary evidence violates FCC policies. The Commission, the group notes, prohibits the broadcasting of falsified, faked, distorted or staged news reports as contrary to the public interest.

Whitely said the whole episode "must be regarded as a remarkable failure of management."

"It is truly sad that the proud traditions of professionalism of CBS News, the division built by the likes of Morrow, Severeid, Reasoner, Mudd and Cronkite, have been allowed to slowly fade away," he said. "In their place is an organization where unprincipled ego, bias, negligence, partisanship and vindictiveness apparently determine the setting of management policy."

Because of the CBS reports' potential impact on the election, MEP is asking the FCC to expedite its request.




13 posted on 09/18/2004 1:20:37 AM PDT by occutegirl
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To: AmericanMade1776

It's amazing to me that he chose to go out like this. I mean, we know there is no evidence that Bush did get favorable treatment, but let's say for a second that he did. Would anybody, other than the hate Bush crowd, really be that bothered about it? I don't think it would have cost him the election, or even many votes for that matter. Rather destroyed whatever credibility he and his network had over something that were it true, would hardly be considered scandalous.


14 posted on 09/18/2004 1:20:38 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004)
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the blunders that are about to bring an inglorious end to his long career.

lets see if a year from now if this statement is wishful thinking

15 posted on 09/18/2004 1:20:41 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Dan Rather has shown greater loyalty to the fraud who put this document together than he's ever shown to his country. He's always been a chum of dictators - Castro and Saddam come to mind - and he's only failing with pro-Kerry propaganda campaign because we live in a free country. I could see him quite comfortable - since he's abiding by this lie - working for men like Castro and Saddam. He's got the right stuff to be their news reader. Truth is relative or situational in his worldview.


16 posted on 09/18/2004 1:22:36 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (http://chucksutahblog.blogspot.com/)
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To: sargon
"Pat has clearly stated that, despite their differences in opinion, he will still be voting for Bush."

Depends on the audiance I guess. When he was on Bill Maher's show him and Bill were both trashing the President...kind of looked like the moment between Britney Spears and Madonna.

17 posted on 09/18/2004 1:23:27 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: KneelBeforeZod

The damage is done, Rather is finished.


18 posted on 09/18/2004 1:23:38 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

In many places it sounds like buchanan speaking about himself. They should both just go quietly...perhaps open a Deli somewhere together.


19 posted on 09/18/2004 1:25:28 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: AmericanMade1776

This is the ONE time I'd like to see Pat be right.

I seriously doubt CBS will send him packing
or that he will seek an early retirement.

Arrogance and a distain for the common folks,
will keep Rather and CBS glued together... UNLESS
it's proved that Rather had a direct hand in this fraud.


20 posted on 09/18/2004 1:25:35 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: onyx

Rather, Like Clinton...have no shame, obviously. Rather should resign, but anyone who would use forged documents, and defend forged documents , has no character, or shame.


21 posted on 09/18/2004 1:30:16 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: Tom_Busch
Rather destroyed whatever credibility he and his network had over something that were it true, would hardly be considered scandalous.

Yes. Clinton got elected after his draft-dodging, and whatever happened in Bush's TANG service, he still has 4 years of commanding the best Armed Forces in the world.

I do not see what was worth this for Rather. I still wonder if he is not being stymied by his and CBS's attorneys, perhaps, with a threat of jail time if he admits to any of this?

22 posted on 09/18/2004 1:33:04 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: AmericanMade1776

Right.
Rather has the same arrogance and lust to retain his power.
He'll not go quietly of his own volition and CBS might be
worried what he "could" spill should they fire him.


23 posted on 09/18/2004 1:33:38 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: onyx

24 posted on 09/18/2004 1:36:55 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776

25 posted on 09/18/2004 1:39:49 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: Yaelle

I really have no idea what his motivation is. But honestly, I don't think he is well. Mentally that is. I think maybe seeing the damage the swiftees did, especially knowing what his feelings are about that war, put him over the edge.


26 posted on 09/18/2004 1:40:02 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004)
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To: elhombrelibre
Hi freeman.

working for men like Castro and Saddam

We know that he has "been a pal" of these two (and probably more lefties).

Has he been as chummy with those such as Margaret Thatcher, other conservatives, or even Tony Blair?

27 posted on 09/18/2004 1:50:18 AM PDT by Diddley (C'mon Dan; 'fess up.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

So when does Walter Concrete come out of retirement to save the flag?


28 posted on 09/18/2004 1:52:25 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
But smoke alarms at CBS were not working

This is not quite the complete picture.
The smoke alarms at See B.S. were not working because their batteries had been deliberately removed.

29 posted on 09/18/2004 1:56:26 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: AmericaUnited
Folks, this is where Pat Buchanan is his best... attacking the enemy, i.e. the left and liberals, not the GOP or fellow Republicans.

Exactly. I wish he'd stick to that.

30 posted on 09/18/2004 2:07:35 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Diddley

No, Dan Rather was never chummy with non-progressives. He buttered up to dictators and dissed democratically elected leaders. His whole life's work has been a disgrace in that regard.


31 posted on 09/18/2004 2:08:17 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (http://chucksutahblog.blogspot.com/)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Now, we can surely all recognize a publicity stunt. Dan Rather is simply promoting his new book, "Burning down my Glass house." :-)


32 posted on 09/18/2004 2:40:53 AM PDT by MerryJ1
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To: AmericanMade1776

Now, we can surely all recognize a publicity stunt. Dan Rather is simply promoting his new book, "Burning down my Glass house." :-)


33 posted on 09/18/2004 2:43:09 AM PDT by MerryJ1
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To: AmericanMade1776
Dan Rather should be FIRED!!
34 posted on 09/18/2004 3:14:50 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Rather is gradually coming in for near Biblical retribution for his sins.

"How art thou fallen from Heaven, O' Lucifer, son of the morning."

Regards,

35 posted on 09/18/2004 4:09:56 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: AmericanMade1776
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36 posted on 09/18/2004 4:13:52 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 8 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: New Perspective

Can Buchanan write a single column without Nixonian references?


37 posted on 09/18/2004 4:22:38 AM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: Tom_Busch
I mean, we know there is no evidence that Bush did get favorable treatment, but let's say for a second that he did.

Of course, you are right onto what should be the main point here.

George Bush 1968 is not running against John Kerry 1968.

Were there draft-eligible 18-20 year olds in 1968 that were sons of Congressmen or Senators who did NOT get special treatment?

Of course not.

Is there evidence that George W. Bush abused his status, or got something that fate wasn't sending his way?

No, there isn't.

The vote is George Bush 2004 vs. John Kerry 2004-and it isn't even close.

38 posted on 09/18/2004 4:25:46 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
"I gave them a sword, and they ran it right through me," said Richard Nixon.

I'd like Dan to fall on his sword. That's wishful thinking because he's too much of a wimp to inflict that much pain on himself - he'll probably end up eating rat poison.
39 posted on 09/18/2004 4:31:39 AM PDT by Jaysun (Taxation WITH representation isn't so hot either.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Worse, CBS appears to have been complicit in a criminal conspiracy to use forged U.S. government documents to bring down a president.

I hope this does lead to an official investigation. Someone needs to answer for this abomination.

40 posted on 09/18/2004 4:37:54 AM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Rather thought he had a story that could bring down a president. Instead, he has ravaged the reputation of CBS News and made of himself a cartoon caricature of liberal bias. How could Rather have been so stubborn and blind?

Ha ha! I love that sentence! Heh Dan! btw, thanks for the sword! ha ha! Loving this!

41 posted on 09/18/2004 4:40:13 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: AmericanMade1776
Pat Buchanan is a paleo-conservative. That means, among other things, that he doesn't buy into globaloney, and for that he has taken a lot of heat. Here he has pegged the Rather hoax exactly on the mark.
42 posted on 09/18/2004 5:15:49 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: AmericanMade1776

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43 posted on 09/18/2004 5:18:22 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Buchanan has an anti-Rather piece?

Rather ... Dan ... Daniel? ... Rather ... nah I would never have known he was Jewish.

Yeah, before the Patsy slobberers come forth ...I liked writing that.


44 posted on 09/18/2004 5:21:49 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: AmericaUnited

Yep, when PJB's on, he's good. I was, however, waiting for him to name the people REALLY at fault here: some people named Goldstein, Goldberg, Needleman, Shapiro and Feldman.


45 posted on 09/18/2004 5:27:11 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: AmericanMade1776
"Rather, Like Clinton...have no shame, obviously. Rather should resign, but anyone who would use forged documents, and defend forged documents , has no character, or shame."

I agree
When O'Reilly had dan rather on his show, he asked blather
why the MSM and him didn't cover clinton and Juanita Broderick.
Blather answered "I will not cover a persons personal sex life.
dan rather must consider RAPE to be a mans personal sex life.
I am surprised no one picked up on this.
46 posted on 09/18/2004 5:28:37 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rather calls Saddam "Mister President" and calls President Bush "bush")
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To: AmericanMade1776

Not sure anymore. The longer Rather stays, the more damage inflicted in CBS's credibility (and the other lefty stations). They are re-inforcing failure.

Keep sending your troops into the kill zone, Viacom.


47 posted on 09/18/2004 5:32:04 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Tom_Busch

This is not about Bush.

It's about Dan Rather.

Dan is to retire soon and bring Bush down would be icing on the cake to his reputation.

Problem is, Dan is going to bring 'Dan Rather' down, with his insistence that Bush answer 'fake' memos.


48 posted on 09/18/2004 5:37:53 AM PDT by Bigh4u2
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To: AmericanMade1776

It certainly is no "tragedy". Rather is a jerk sho needed to go long before now.


49 posted on 09/18/2004 5:38:10 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: onyx
UNLESS it's proved that Rather had a direct hand in this fraud.

Uh, proceeding in reckless disregard of the advice of your experts is sort of kind of having a hand in perpretrating forgery. It is not afterall, the forger himself, who necessarily damages society - it is the person who knowingly and deliberately passes the forgery off as being genuine.

50 posted on 09/18/2004 5:47:06 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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