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CBS News Concludes It Was Misled on National Guard Memos, Network Officials Say
New York Times ^ | 9/20/04 | Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 09/19/2004 9:40:13 PM PDT by LibWhacker

After days of expressing confidence about the documents used in a "60 Minutes'' report that raised new questions about President Bush's National Guard service, CBS News officials have grave doubts about the authenticity of the material, network officials said last night.

Those officials, who asked not to be identified, said CBS News would most likely make an announcement as early as today that it had been deceived about the documents' origins, and that it was mounting an intensive news investigation of where they came from.

But these people cautioned that CBS News could still pull back from an announcement. Officials were meeting last night with Dan Rather, the anchor who presented the report, to go over the information it has collected about the documents one last time before making a final decision.

People at the network said it was now possible that officials would open a formal internal inquiry into how it moved forward with the report, which officials now say they are beginning to believe was too flawed to have gone on the air.

The report relied in large part on four memorandums purported to be from the personal file of Mr. Bush's squadron commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, who died 20 years ago. The memos, dated from the early 1970's, said that Colonel Killian was under pressure to "sugar coat'' the record of the young Lieutenant Bush and that the officer had disobeyed a direct order to take a physical.

Mr. Rather and others at the network are said to still believe that the sentiment in the memos accurately reflected Mr. Killian's feelings, but that the documents' authenticity is now in grave doubt.

The developments last night marked a dramatic turn for CBS News, which for a week stood steadfastly by its Sept. 8 report as various document experts asserted that the typeface of the memos could have been produced only by a modern-day word processor, not Vietnam War-era typewriters.

The seemingly unflappable confidence of Mr. Rather and top news division officials in the documents allayed fears within the network and created doubt among some in the news media at large that those specialists were correct. CBS News officials had said they had reason to be certain that the documents indeed came from the personal file of Colonel Killian.

Sandy Genelius, a network spokeswoman, said last week, "We are confident about the chain of custody; we're confident in how we secured the documents.''

But officials decided yesterday that they would most likely have to declare that they were misled about the records' origin after Mr. Rather and a top network executive, Betsy West, met in Texas with a man who was said to have helped the news division obtain the memos, a former Guard officer named Bill Burkett.

Mr. Rather interviewed Mr. Burkett on camera this weekend, and several people close to the reporting process said his answers to Mr. Rather's questions led officials to conclude that their initial confidence that the memos came from Mr. Killian's own files was not warranted. These people indicated that Mr. Burkett had previously led the producer of the piece, Mary Mapes, to have the utmost confidence in the material.

It was unclear last night whether Mr. Burkett told Mr. Rather that he had been misled about the documents' provenance or that he had been the one who did the misleading.

In an e-mail message yesterday, Mr. Burkett declined to answer any questions about the documents.

Yesterday, Emily J. Will, a document specialist who inspected the records for CBS News and said last week that she had raised concerns about their authenticity with CBS News producers, confirmed a report in Newsweek that a producer had told her that the source of the documents had said they were obtained anonymously and through the mail.

During an interview last night she declined to name the producer who told her this but said that the producer had been in a position to know. CBS News officials have disputed her contention that she warned the network the night before the initial "60 Minutes'' report that it would face questions from documents experts.

In the coming days CBS News officials plan to focus on how the network moved ahead with the report when there were warning signs that the memorandums were not genuine.

Ms. Will is one of two documents experts consulted by the network who said they raised doubts about the material before the segment was broadcast. Another expert, Marcel B. Matley, said in interviews that he had only vouched for Colonel Killian's signatures on the records and not the authenticity of the records themselves. Mr. Matley said he could not rule out that the signatures were cut and pasted from official records pertaining to Colonel Killian.

In examining where the network went wrong, officials at CBS News were turning their attention to Ms. Mapes, one of their most respected producers, who was riding particularly high this year after breaking news about the Abu Ghraib prison scandal for the network.

In a telephone interview this weekend, Josh Howard, the executive producer of the "60 Minutes'' Wednesday edition, said he did not initially know who was Ms. Mapes' primary source for the documents but that he did not see any reason to doubt them. He said he believed Ms. Mapes and her team had appropriately answered all questions about the documents' authenticity and, he noted, no one seemed to be casting doubt upon the essential thrust of the report.

"The editorial story line was still intact, and still is, to this day,'' he said, "and the reporting that was done in it was by a person who has turned in decades of flawless reporting with no challenge to her credibility.''

He added, "We in management had no sense that the producing team wasn't completely comfortable with the results of the document analysis.''

Ms. Mapes has not responded to requests for comment.

Mr. Howard also said in the interview that the White House did not dispute the veracity of the documents when it was presented them on the morning of the report. That reaction, he said, was "the icing on the cake'' of the other reporting the network was conducting on the documents. White House officials have said they saw no reason to challenge documents that had been presented by a credible news organization.

Several people familiar with the situation said that they were girding for a particularly tough week for Mr. Rather and the news division should the network announce its new doubts.

One person close to the situation said the critical question would be, "Where was everybody's judgment on that last day?''


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To: ntnychik

Thanks for the ping ntnychik. I read that Dan was running around in Texas the past few days, sounds like he didn't find what he wanted to find!!


81 posted on 09/19/2004 9:56:46 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: concerned about politics

Will he apologize to the President for trying to destroy him?

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HAHAHAHAAHAHA! Are you kidding me? I am guessing that Rather will be VERY snide about the situation and the "annoucment" will be very condescending. I expect a pay back piece of some sort from Rather in short order.

Remember the MSM and the Kerry campaign are in tight collusion. We snuffed out one of their October suprises, I wonder what they have left. I am sure it will be equally as damning and made up.

The only difference is that they will be more careful at how to decieve the public at large.


82 posted on 09/19/2004 9:56:50 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: All

"Mistakes were made."

"It was a bureaucratic SNAFU."

"Nobody here is certain who hired Dan Rather."


83 posted on 09/19/2004 9:57:04 PM PDT by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: woodb01
Oh, fear not, I agree. Once the source comes out, it's gonna be like lancing a particularly ugly boil. All the nastiness is going to spill out, and quickly.

Rather's gonna be lucky if he avoids federal time when all is said and done.

84 posted on 09/19/2004 9:57:38 PM PDT by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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To: woodb01

Fact is, there are a LOT of VERY serious issues that should be pushed HARD about the documets.

1. The widow and son were IGNORED
2. Document experts were IGNORED
3. Hodges was MISLED
4. The old secretary was NOT INTERVIEWED until afterward
5. The opinions of the experts were MISREPRESENTED
6. The swift boat veterans were MALIGNED
7. George Bush's roomate DURING HIS GUARD YEARS, who AGREED TO SPEAK TO THEM WAS TURNED DOWN BECAUSE HE WAS TOO "PRO BUSH"...

And the list goes on. Fact is, this was a HIT PIECE ON BUSH. And just because dnCBS owns up to fake documents does NOT CLEAR THEIR PROPAGANDA / DNC REPORTING!!

If the documents were the ONLY ISSUE in this, without all of the other plainly propaganda driven results, it wouldn't be such an issue.

THE DOCUMENTS ARE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG! THE ICEBERG IS THE MANIPULATION AND DECEPTION OF THE PUBLIC!!

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Yup.


85 posted on 09/19/2004 9:57:53 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: BoBToMatoE

Rather will be gone by October.


86 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Mr. Rather and others at the network are said to still believe that the sentiment in the memos accurately reflected Mr. Killian's feelings, but that the documents' authenticity is now in grave doubt.

It sounds very much like

"We had to destroy the memos in order to save them."

87 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:10 PM PDT by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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To: MamaLucci

How many more fake documents have been used over the years for 60 Minutes II? Is this how CBS verifies proof for their hit pieces? Ignore the doubts of the experts?

Dan Rather is at fault no matter how CBS tries to cover it up and put the blame on the White House, the GOP, Mapes, or any others.


88 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:13 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: Lancey Howard
I will always believe that Rather and CBS knew, or at least assumed, that the memos were fake. Rather and CBS decided to take the risk anyway because they confidently figured that they would get away with their journalistic fraud the same way they have always gotten away with it over the decades.

Yep. They never expected anyone to question them.

90 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:20 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: LibWhacker
"Officials were meeting last night with Dan Rather, the anchor who presented the report, to go over the information it has collected about the documents one last time before making a final decision."

"Here, Dan, sit at the head of the conference table—we've got a special new chair for you."

91 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:29 PM PDT by Fabozz
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To: Gooze Frabah

Anytime it has to do with VietNam or a member of the Bush family...


92 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:30 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: ladyinred

But the seed is planted right? Tell me does this make sense, Kerry, Rather, Moore, McAuliffe, Carville, most importantly both the Clintons, they all know the playbook. There are statistics on this somewhere, which is why they do focus groups. The statistics are people pay attention to 70% of how one looks, 20% percent of how one sounds and only 10% is paid to what one says. They know this and it works just beautifully.


93 posted on 09/19/2004 9:58:37 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas
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To: Inyokern

'duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhh, courage" -RATher


94 posted on 09/19/2004 9:59:35 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (all)
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To: LibWhacker

Rather sure broke that story.


95 posted on 09/19/2004 9:59:51 PM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: LibWhacker
"But officials decided yesterday that they would most likely have to declare that they were misled about the records' origin after Mr. Rather and a top network executive, Betsy West, met in Texas with a man who was said to have helped the news division obtain the memos, a former Guard officer named Bill Burkett."

Mary Mapes, you was had! (I hope Mapes understand, she's gotta walk the plank for Dan.)

96 posted on 09/19/2004 9:59:53 PM PDT by YaYa123 ( @Burkett...you da kook dat duped Dan.com)
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To: LibWhacker
CBS News would most likely make an announcement as early as today that it had been deceived about the documents' origins, and that it was mounting an intensive news investigation of where they came from.

CBS News couldn't figure out where all the fur came from after the Teddy Bear Picnic.

97 posted on 09/19/2004 10:00:19 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (Edward R. Murrow, call your office.)
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To: Howlin
"The editorial story line was still intact, and still is, to this day,"he said.

This whole story needs a good fisking.

Every line in it is mangled logic.

And, they are still trying to blame the White House for not telling them the documents were forged.

98 posted on 09/19/2004 10:00:37 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: LibWhacker
it was mounting an intensive news investigation of where they came from.

They based a major story on anonymous documents that came in over the Fax Line?

Not even a highschool paper would be stupid enough to do that.
This is another coverup attempt.

So9

99 posted on 09/19/2004 10:01:01 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Tragically Single

With this whole "chain of custody" nonsense, and Rather's idiotic, quixotic "we stand behind our flawed reporting, forgeries and all, because the general gist of it is true" line of defense...

Wouldn't this be an IDEAL time for the GOP to surreptitiously bring Sandy Berger up again? It could really drive home the essential message:

1) The Dems can't tell the truth
2) The MSM will gladly help them lie
3) The Dems can't be trusted with matters of national security

Sandy Berger has gotten a free pass the last four or five weeks. I think it's time to start demanding some answers there, as well.


100 posted on 09/19/2004 10:01:02 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten."--Putin / "A more sensitive war on terror." --Kerry)
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