Posted on 09/20/2004 2:31:16 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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I've heard the Swift Vets' next ad will take on eFing's trip to Paris to chat with the Commies while still on the books in the Naval Reserve...
Should be well worth the money!
Haven't missed anything. Panel discussion on Brit's show about docs coming up now.
DU's not down. I'm reading their thread on this right now.
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/3671
..Wonder if old Marty Heldt had a hand in faking docs...
Parse that, it all depends on what you mean by an investigation.
the issue is not CBS. It was who was responsible for trying to screw up this election with nationally broadcast fraudulent documents that ultimately --- undercut --- legitimate arguments against *'s war record. Think who really benefits from this farce. It must have been planned to break open just like it did.
[Ah yes! Poor little Dan Rather became entangled in a devious KARL ROVE plot.]
The truth remains that FratBoy was AWOL at the very least, and most probably a deserter, during a period of time when Americans were still dying in Vietnam. That is IRREFUTABLE. Period.
[YUP! It's IRREFUTABLE and I bet you have the forged documents to prove it.]
As I said in the other thread... It is going to come out that Max Clelan gave the docs to CBS...What are we going to say then?
[Need you ask? Just say what you have been saying....KARL ROVE forged those docs as part of a devious ROVIAN plot to discredit Kerry.]
Max Cleland is the triple amputee former Senator from Georgia who is working for the DNC now. It is being reported that Bill Burkett told a group of Texas Democrats in a mailing list that he had given Max documents to counter-attack the Swift Liars. It is implied that he is the "unimpeachable" source from CBS. CBS then simply got the documents from Burkett for sure, but it was Cleland who gave it credibility for CBS to run with it...so the story goes
[I detect a hint of rationality from this DUmmie. For that he MUST be banned from the DUmmie board!]
CBS has been working on this story for five years... ...are you trying to tell me or anyone else that CBS didn't already have these documents and more "unimpeachable sources" than just Max Cleland? Give me a break. I seem to also recall that Rather stated that the CBS lawyers were all over the documentation before they would allow it to go on the air.
[And yet that whole effort was destroyed in just a few minutes by a few pajama clad bloggers.]
No...I'm just wondering what the response will be if Cleland is at least one "unimpeachable source." It seems like this could be devastating if it starts getting coverage...or worse if it is provable.
[Hee! Hee!]
Rather screwed the pooch on this one. And he hurt Kerry. This took up WAY too much time and drowned out way too much of Kerry's message. The sooner Rather admits he was conned, the sooner we can get back to Kerry getting his message (jobs, health care, end of the war) out there.
[And the pooch Dan Rather screwed was a French Poodle.]
Your man Rather is an idiot who got duped. I hope CBS fires his sorry ass. Thanks to his incomptence, it will now look to some that the media can't be trusted to report anything negative about Bush; that if they do say something negative, it's because they have a vendetta. If this was a Rove trap, that moron Rather walked RIGHT into it. He totally ruined CBS' credibility in reporting on Bush's (non)service record.
[So somehow it is Karl Rove's fault that Rather is a biased jerk?]
Excuse me, but CBS backed Rather's report and employed four.... ...different lawyers to ensure that the facts checked out. They're not going to fire Rather because Rather will break their balls in court. You can bet your bottom dollar that Rather understands the phrase "CYA documentation"...and you can also bet that Rather knows where a lot of bodies are buried.
[The just don't come any better in the art of blackmail than Dan Rather.]
The massive stupidity of CBS. And Repugs are already floating around that the DNC had a hand in this, if so.......I'm almost afraid to imagine.
[Close your eyes and IMAGINE you are in a faraway place.]
This will help Kerry in a big way, I think. A real issue here is censorship and intimidation of American media. THAT is extremely important. This thing has not finished playing out yet.
[Correct. It hasn't played out yet. And dream on about it helping Kerry my naive little DUmmie.]
EVERYTHING going on, except this one issue, makes Frat Boy look bad. But NOOOO, CBS had to drag this out, and focus on the ONE thing that makes Bush look better?!?!?! You know all the Repugs were all, "Whew, close one, Thank God It's Fraudulent!" I wouldn't be surprised if TGIF was now a WH mantra. This is going to be an even steeper uphill battle now. And it's all thanks to CBS and those of you who encouraged CBS to "stand their ground." I hope it was worth it, I hope the feeding frenzy over the TANG documents was worth possibly costing us the election.
[Poor little frustrated DUmmie. Better take your Meds little frustrated DUmmie. Control your anger little frustrated DUmmie. But don't stop doing your Little Frustrated DUmmie act. It's funnier than a puppet show!]
Burkett is trying to pass blame and apparently is a coward for not owning up to his actions.
[SNIFF! And to think that just a week ago Burkett was a hero to all you DUmmies. Oh how the (not so) might have fallen!]
Thanks a lot, Burkett you f*cking idiot..... I imagine Rove is sending him a "Thank you" card as we speak.
["Dear Bill Burkett---Thank you for falling prey to my intricate ROVIAN plot and sucking in CBS News, Dan Rather, and almost all DUmmies. Your stupidity has been enormously helpful and will ensure the defeat of John Kerry. As an expression of our gratitude permit me to send you an invitation to President Bush's Inaugural Ball this January. Sincerely yours---Karl (Rovian Plotter) Rove."]
Damn CBS! How could they cave in like that? They should have stayed strong! I feel betrayed!
[Now we know why you are called DUmmies.]
yeah Don-O...Love some of the DOOFUS LOOKS that get clipped...
I HATE DAN RATHER!!! He's a Lying POOPY HEAD!!!
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We all know the answer to that question. Burkett (and others) are simply a scapegoat for the DNC...
Amen to that! Have you ever seen such a lousy attempt to end this forgery case with Burkett (but, Burkett say he didn't forge anything)! Never did they press the question about where Burkett got them and just let him off with a "another source" answer. They didn't even ask about the Cleland and Burkett connection, which Cleland admits.
So, they want us to believe that Burkett is their "unimpeachable source" when it's well known in National Guard circles that he has a long standing grudge and an axe to grind against Bush. Somebody "fronted" for Burkett and vouched for him, and all the smart money is betting that someone is connected to the DNC and Kerry campaign!
It was greatly lacking in what the apology should have been. Yet it's better than I thought it would be. I really thought they'd wrap up the apology in an overall hit piece. Instead, they just lamely tried to claim they did it with no malice. Yeah, right.
This is the most leading interview I've ever heard.
"Now Bill, you just follow my lead. I'll steer you through this, just the way we agreed."
Not one second of this would be admitted in a court of law if this were a deposition transcript.
Someone check the video, DAN RATHER SAID Burkett was in the AIR national Guard.
Note: He was in the ARMY National Guard.
THE SOB lies in his on air Apology to spin the blame! Unfreaking believable.
Also note that Dan the Newsman didn't allow Scott McClullan's whole statement to be played? He stopped it before they commented on the DNC ties!
Hell even Burkett stated he DEMANDED that the authenticity be verified. CBS failed, out of blind Ideology!
There are two sets of docs - the first are sent by Kerry campaign to CBS anonymously by mail. Then, later, Burkett faxes the second copy.
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