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War is obsolete, Dalai Lama declares during Sunrise visit
South Florida Sun-Sentinel ^ | September 20 2004 | James D. Davis

Posted on 09/21/2004 12:22:34 PM PDT by presidio9

Thousands of listeners rose, cheered and clapped wildly as the Dalai Lama not only called for peace, but declared war obsolete.

"My interests in the future, my economic prosperity, depend very much on others, including my enemy -- and theirs depends on me," the revered head of Tibetan Buddhism told nearly 13,000 listeners Sunday in Sunrise.

"In ancient times, nations would only think `my interests,' then destroy the enemy and enrich themselves," he continued. "Today, with modern economy and ecology, everything is interdependent. Our interests are the same as others'.

"So I think the concept of war is out of date."

It was a message the listeners at the Office Depot Center clearly hungered to hear.

"It was inspirational, to see that someone is really for peace, instead of war or greed," said art dealer Lisa Wolsky, who had driven from Tavernier in the Keys to hear the Tibetan leader. "Everything he said was so basic, fundamental."

The address, "World Peace Through Inner Peace," was his second during a five-day stay in South Florida.

"The 20th century was a century of violence and bloodshed, and violence failed to solve problems," said the Dalai Lama, who lost hundreds of thousands of his countrymen to Chinese invaders. "It only created suffering. The 21st century should be a century of dialogue.

"Even your enemy is worthy of respect. Despite disagreements, you live together on the planet."

The Office Depot Center crowd was slightly older and more diverse than Saturday listeners at his Nova Southeastern University talk. It also attracted broad regional interest, with people coming from Jacksonville, Tampa, Naples, Clearwater and West Palm Beach. Others came from New York, California, even several dozen from Aruba.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: clueless; conman; dalaiconman; dalailama; gunga; gungagalunga
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To: correctthought
"The 20th century was a century of violence and bloodshed, and violence failed to solve problems," said the Dalai Lama, who lost hundreds of thousands of his countrymen to Chinese invaders. "It only created suffering. The 21st century should be a century of dialogue.

Shouldn't he be telling us this is all an illusion?

The 20th century and every century leading up to it had violence and bloodshed and now things are going to change? Because we are interdependent? Who is writing this stuff, Dan Rather?

41 posted on 09/21/2004 12:36:06 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: All

Ahh... the all-knowing, all-wise Dalai Lamer.

If he is so wise and all-knowing, why isn't his country free?

And who asked for his worthless opinons anyway?


42 posted on 09/21/2004 12:36:38 PM PDT by Outland (Conservatism is like mental floss. It fights liberal decay.)
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To: martin_fierro

LOL... I wonder if he's sitting (cross-legged, of course) under that ol' Oak Tree.


43 posted on 09/21/2004 12:37:10 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: presidio9
"So I think the concept of war is out of date."

Well, I am certainly relieved! What was I worried about?

44 posted on 09/21/2004 12:37:26 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Quisling - from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a synonym for "traitor")
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To: presidio9

Yeah. Whatever.

It's too bad that evil never seems to learn the lesson and that evil is never above exerting power over those who are weak into complying with its will. The only language evil understands is the will to use force to defend both ourselves and others. If we are not willing to wage war against evil, we ultimately allow evil to run roughshod over all that is decent.

War will only become obsolete when good finally triumphs over evil once and for all on Judgement Day.


45 posted on 09/21/2004 12:38:09 PM PDT by William Martel (Anyone But Kerry in 2004.)
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To: martin_fierro
The Dalai Lama resides at Starfleet Academy, where both war AND money are obsolete.

Um. What does it mean when the white flag is at half mast? The French are hiring?

46 posted on 09/21/2004 12:38:29 PM PDT by N. Theknow (N. Theknow - Proud Member - Vast Right Wing Googling Pajama Monkeys)
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To: presidio9

----"So I think the concept of war is out of date."----


COULD HAVE FOOLED ME.


-Dan
47 posted on 09/21/2004 12:38:35 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Strange Things Are Afoot at the Circle K.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
So is crime, but I'm still locking my doors.

LOL! IOW, "Trust in God, but keep rowing to shore."

48 posted on 09/21/2004 12:38:44 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: presidio9
"I think the concept of war is out of date."

- Dalai Lama

"The Art of War is a subject of vital importance to the continued sovereignty of the State.  It is the path to ruin or safety.  Under no circumstance is warfare an object of inquiry which may be safely ignored."

- Sun-Tzu

 

I have to say....between the two of them, Mr. Lama sounds like an idiot.

49 posted on 09/21/2004 12:39:39 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: presidio9

The Islamists don't seem to think so, and as long as they don't, I don't either. We have a right to defend ourselves and take police action against threats to the common good.


50 posted on 09/21/2004 12:39:40 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Tempest
We need to upgrade to War 2.1 immediately.

We need to download the Service Pack that patches the Falluja hole.

51 posted on 09/21/2004 12:39:46 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: presidio9
"The 20th century was a century of violence and bloodshed, and violence failed to solve problems," said the Dalai Lama, who lost hundreds of thousands of his countrymen to Chinese invaders. "It only created suffering. The 21st century should be a century of dialogue.

After 9/11, I reluctantly argued with my mother regarding the pending invasion of Afghanistan when she said, "War never solves anything!" I countered while war is never a permanent solution to anything, it sure does solve some problems, like, for example, people living in my hometown of San Francisco in 1941 faced the problem of a possible Japanese invasion of the West Coast. Today, we are at peace with Japan, and their ability to wage war on the US is non-existent.

Problem solved.

I wish I had been in the studio when Michael Moore was on Oprah earlier this year, and spouted off about how in US schools they teach the history of war, but not of peacemakers, saying that they should examine guys like Mahatma Gandhi more. I would have pointed out that Gandhi only was successful in his fight to liberate India from the British crown because he was dealing with civilized people. After the UK pulled out, the fight to fill the leadership vacuum between the Hindi majority and (guess who?) radical Islamists began, and there was a bloodbath. And Mr. Peacemaker Gandhi couldn't do a maddog thing about it.

52 posted on 09/21/2004 12:40:04 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (The Final Score: Buckhead 1, Talking Head 0)
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To: N. Theknow
What does it mean when the white flag is at half mast?

That they've surrendered, but that they feel really, really bad about it.

53 posted on 09/21/2004 12:41:05 PM PDT by martin_fierro (STOIC)
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To: martin_fierro
What does it mean when the white flag is at half mast?

Actually, it means: "He's dead, Jim."
54 posted on 09/21/2004 12:46:21 PM PDT by Thrusher (The timing of this post is suspicious.)
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To: presidio9

Dalai Lama needs to go to Baghdad, get beheaded for being an infidel, and then say war is obsolete. Oh, that's right, his FREAKING HEAD would be cut off!


55 posted on 09/21/2004 12:46:57 PM PDT by PeterFinn ("John Kerry is a flip-flopper and a phony" - Howell Raines quoted in the Wash. Post)
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To: presidio9
"Peace is a condition to be inferred from the fact that there have occasionally been intervals between wars."

Geopolitics 101.

56 posted on 09/21/2004 12:51:26 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Darkwolf377
"People need to remind him that the reason Gandi and MLK were successful is because their methods appealed to the humanity in their oppressors. The Brits and white America just needed a push to do the right thing."

You are exactly right. This is an important point to make to our children when they are being taught about Gandhi and MLK.

57 posted on 09/21/2004 12:53:09 PM PDT by Montfort
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To: martin_fierro
From the "More Than You Want to Know" dept.

Hmmm....If that view is from the S.F. side, it's too far west - so it would be on landfill.(scream)
It almost looks like its from the Marin county side,looking south. There are a series of old coastal forts from WWI and WWII that are near the Golden Gate. One, Ft. Baker, is under and east of the GG bridge. There would be space for Starfleet there.

58 posted on 09/21/2004 12:55:13 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: presidio9; Poohbah; section9; Pukin Dog

How does the Dalai Lama think the Chicoms will leave Tibet - if he asks nicely?

Possible, but I can think of other, more likely things happening. Like PETA serving veal parmesan at their next Hollywood awards dinner.


59 posted on 09/21/2004 12:55:15 PM PDT by hchutch (I only eat dolphin-safe veal.)
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To: presidio9

So Dalai baby, how's that peace thing doing to free Tibet from China?


60 posted on 09/21/2004 12:56:09 PM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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