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Millions (of felons) blocked from voting in U.S. Election
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Posted on 09/22/2004 10:49:44 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant

"Millions Blocked from Voting in U.S. Election"

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Millions of U.S. citizens, including a disproportionate number of black voters, will be blocked from voting in the Nov. 2 presidential election because of legal barriers, faulty procedures or dirty tricks, according to civil rights and legal experts.

The largest category of those legally disenfranchised consists of almost 5 million former felons who have served prison sentences and been deprived of the right to vote under laws that have roots in the post-Civil War 19th century and were aimed at preventing black Americans from voting.

But millions of other votes in the 2000 presidential election were lost due to clerical and administrative errors while civil rights organizations have cataloged numerous tactics aimed at suppressing black voter turnout. Polls consistently find that black Americans overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.
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Funny how liberals don't mind a felon losing his gun rights, but losing his voting rights is a dirty Republican trick. Except those laws were most likely passed by wealthy Plantation Democrat elites to keep their plutocratic power structure intact.

This reporting makes me sick. Did the author just take last week's Kerry talking points and flesh it out? Anyone who is blocked from voting due to bureaucratic incompetence has a serious grievance. Same with threatening to arrest people at the polls (later in article). But what is that story about "mysterious people videotaping in line?" An army of voyeurs? Since when did a video camera qualify as intimidation?

As for driver's licenses, I think everyone should have to show a photo ID at a polling station. But read on - it all comes back to Florida for this reporter. No one in the press seems to fault the networks for calling the state for Gore before the panhandle had stopped voting, 'disenfranchising' thousands of voters who went home.

Oh well. I'm sure the illegal immigrant vote and New York-Florida double-voting will make up for it.

1 posted on 09/22/2004 10:49:45 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant
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To: MIT-Elephant

File this under "Too Effin' Bad"


2 posted on 09/22/2004 10:52:04 AM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: MIT-Elephant

You know when you are banking on the felon vote you are in trouble.


3 posted on 09/22/2004 10:52:12 AM PDT by Spackidagoosh
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To: MIT-Elephant
They also can't buy a gun, become a police officer, become a teacher, serve in our armed forces, get a security clearance, become a child care worker, become a FBI agent, etc.
4 posted on 09/22/2004 10:52:13 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Felons lose their rights when they are covincted that is the plan and simple of it. after they have severed their time they can in certian case re apply of reinstatment of their rights, but I cannot belive that people wail and nash over this.


5 posted on 09/22/2004 10:52:34 AM PDT by Americanwolf ("Be vwey vwey quite! I am hunting DU Twolls! ---Elwer Fuwd Free Republic member and cartoon icon)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Well on the bright side, they can still get elected to the DC City Council.


6 posted on 09/22/2004 10:53:34 AM PDT by John Jorsett (Kerry-Edwards: FORGING AHEAD)
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To: MIT-Elephant
OH!!! now i understand..... only black people commit felonies.... I see....
7 posted on 09/22/2004 10:54:26 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: MIT-Elephant

This more of the LIBERAL DOUBLE STANDARD being SPUN BY THE MEDIA --- God, haven't we had enough from CBS....

The truth is NEVER PRESENTED IN PROPER PERSPECTIVE. What this liberal kool-aid drinker is ranting about, is that because FELONS CAN'T VOTE LEGALLY the liberal Dems are losing votes. How unfortunate...and it is a real OBSTACLE that these voters actually HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW --- that is a violation of liberal rights !!!!!

Makes me want to puke also -- remember the liberals handing out cigarettes to the homeless, cardboard-box-dwellers when Gore was running?? -- to get them to vote Democrat.


8 posted on 09/22/2004 10:54:33 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: theDentist
I guess it is our fault that 15% or more of the black population are convicted felons. White people convicted them so they are not responsable.
Your line: File this under "Too Effin' Bad"
9 posted on 09/22/2004 10:55:02 AM PDT by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Sounds like just like any another liberal "Blame Whitey" story I've ever read.


10 posted on 09/22/2004 10:55:30 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: MIT-Elephant

OK, of what value is Yahoo? I mean I'm an IT pro for 30+ years, but have never had a use to even access Yahoo except when a story like this leads me there.
What is their business model? They appear to be ultra left, so I'm looking for a way to cause them pain.


11 posted on 09/22/2004 10:55:54 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Upcoming new holiday - Vietnam Veterans Reconciliation Day - Nov 2.)
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To: MIT-Elephant

In the last election the Democrats brought quite a few felons to the polls. The also visited the lunatic asylums and escorted inmates to the voting booths. Good to know who the Democrats think are their most reliable supporters. Not to speak of the most reliable Democrat voters of all--dead people.


12 posted on 09/22/2004 10:56:38 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Ahhhh, shucks! And here the dems have been getting buses to haul these guys into the polls, I'll bet. They got street people in one state last time and gave them cigarettes to vote, remember? When you're a liberal, you need an edge.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 10:56:50 AM PDT by midwyf
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To: 2banana
serve in our armed forces, get a security clearance

William the Impeached.

14 posted on 09/22/2004 10:57:11 AM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Don't do the crime if............


15 posted on 09/22/2004 10:57:15 AM PDT by gilor (Pull the wool over your OWN eyes!)
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To: MIT-Elephant
The largest category of those legally disenfranchised consists of almost 5 million former felons who have served prison sentences and been deprived of the right to vote under laws that have roots in the post-Civil War 19th century and were aimed at preventing black Americans from voting.

I am impressed by the ingenuity of Republicans. Way back in the 19th century they predicted that a disproportionate percentage of felons would be black. That's truly remarkable. The devil made them do it?

16 posted on 09/22/2004 10:57:19 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: EagleUSA

I read a columnist who argued for restoring felon voting rights (a reasonable discussion with good arguments on either side)...but he had one point that was nuts - "if felons were allowed to vote, Gore would have won Florida by a few thousand votes."

Grrreat. That's an argument? That's not an argument! The ends justify the means? How is that supposed to convince anyone? Where did that guy go to school?


17 posted on 09/22/2004 10:57:36 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: MIT-Elephant

Alan elsner, the author of this article, is a big prison-rights guy. and a loon...


18 posted on 09/22/2004 10:58:18 AM PDT by Solson (The path of least resistance is the path of the loser. - Phil Weltman)
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To: MIT-Elephant

bump


19 posted on 09/22/2004 10:58:35 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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Wow... I never thought Reuters would report any good news... I am shocked!


20 posted on 09/22/2004 10:58:35 AM PDT by oolatec
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To: ProudVet77

Yahoo! was one of the original "portals," i.e., web sites that competed to be selected by surfers as their Home Page. The first portal was Netscape, associated with the first browser.

It was a smart business model, and they have grown from their. The hard leftist twist in their news reporting is a more recent development, and some of it may simply be due to the fact that they reproduce wire service stories, and they are all getting further and further to the left.


21 posted on 09/22/2004 10:59:11 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Sorry, I just can't muster up any sympathy for the fact that criminals and insane people won't be allowed to vote. I only see that as a good thing. You must be able to demonstrate a minimum level of responsibility and inurement to civil responsibility in order to effect public policy in this country.

I can understand why Kerry would want those votes though. You'd have to be a criminal or insane to vote for him.


22 posted on 09/22/2004 10:59:30 AM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Next thing you know, they'll be wanting to deny the vote to aliens and dead people.


23 posted on 09/22/2004 11:00:41 AM PDT by dangus
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To: MIT-Elephant

The author hasn't the sense to realize that to commit and be found guilty of a felony is to lose one's right to public participation - voting included. It's just one of the punishments.

Dumb reporter...


24 posted on 09/22/2004 11:01:03 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: MIT-Elephant
Funny how liberals don't mind a felon losing his gun rights, but losing his voting rights is a dirty Republican trick

How True!
25 posted on 09/22/2004 11:01:46 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: MIT-Elephant

How DARE they presume that barring criminals from voting will adversely affect the black community more than the white community?! They're RACISTS, RACISTS!!! Oh, wait, they're DEMOCRATS? Nevermind.


26 posted on 09/22/2004 11:03:07 AM PDT by dangus
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To: MIT-Elephant

Felons lose a lot of rights when they are convicted. Good. Let's keep it that way and keep electing Republicans who are all for law and order.


27 posted on 09/22/2004 11:03:59 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Spackidagoosh

DNC - Party of the felons, by the felons and for the felons.


28 posted on 09/22/2004 11:05:49 AM PDT by antceecee (MSM...time after time after time after time they tell lie after lie after lie after lie.)
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To: MIT-Elephant
Alright, somebody explain to me how one becomes an "ex-" or "former" felon? And how long does this happen after they've served their sentence? If that were the case, ex-felons should get their Second Amendment rights back.
29 posted on 09/22/2004 11:06:13 AM PDT by Ladysmith (Wanted: Pajamas designed with purple-hearted bandaids.)
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To: midwyf
They got street people in one state last time and gave them cigarettes to vote, remember? When you're a liberal, you need an edge.

That cigarette incident occured in my (latest) home state of Wisconsin, where Gore won by less than one vote per precinct. When my surgeon father visited a hospital in Chicago, the host doctor brought out some cadavers..."everybody be careful, these guys are still registered voters."

And another thing - why didn't Gore get more flack for having Young Richard Dailey involved in his campaign? Imagine if Bush had anyone peripherally connected with, say, the Nixon cabinet - we'd never hear the end of it. Remember Dailey's father delivered Chicago and the presidency to Kennedy.

30 posted on 09/22/2004 11:07:12 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: midwyf
Oh and where was Dem. county that had 110% voting in 2000? These people are devious and dangerous. I agree with the poster above. We should have to show Driver's license when voting. Although, from my experience last month at the DMV, I am not sure it matters.

A young man was applying for his DL. I was sitting right behind him and heard the whole conversation. His English was very bad. he was from Mexico. At no time did the examiner ask for a green card, proof of citizenship or anything. Her final words to him were, Do you want to register to vote? When I had my turn, I asked her, how do you know if this man is even a citizen? She replied, "We aren't required to ask!" I said, "Yes but you just registered him to vote? She said,"Well he said he was!" I was so stunned! I had always wondered how my former boss (who is not an American citizen) was able to vote the past few elections!

Motor Voter is FRAUD!

31 posted on 09/22/2004 11:07:55 AM PDT by Repub4bush
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To: FesterUSMC
"only black people commit felonies... I see."

You're getting very close, but they are really trying to imply that being black is the felony.

32 posted on 09/22/2004 11:09:10 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy is not what it used to be.)
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To: MIT-Elephant
Tuff $hit Kinda makes me want to cry.
33 posted on 09/22/2004 11:09:27 AM PDT by Fast1 (Kerry for an Islamic America.)
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To: MIT-Elephant
Funny how liberals don't mind a felon losing his gun rights, but losing his voting rights is a dirty Republican trick. Except those laws were most likely passed by wealthy Plantation Democrat elites to keep their plutocratic power structure intact.

This is one of the most incredibly stupid articles I've read here on FR. How, in good conscience - no strike that - with ANY conscience, can this reporter tie words like "felon" and "disenfranchised" in the same sentence? And then have the gall to blame this long-standing fact on the Republican Party. Indeed, the dims have gone off the deep end. Trying to elicit support for felons to vote is beyond the pale...

34 posted on 09/22/2004 11:09:31 AM PDT by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: MIT-Elephant
"...including a disproportionate number of black voters..."

Well, if the "disproportioned number of black voters" were not a disproportionate part of the crime stats maybe they wouldn't have this problem. Thank you Jesse and Al and all the other race opportunists. Just keep 'em down on the plantation and your donations will continue. It would be the end of you if they actually learned about capitalism and self-sufficency, rather than victimhood.

What a waste of so many potential contributors to our society. Keep preaching your divisive rhetoric so they will send in the money.

35 posted on 09/22/2004 11:11:16 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (www.opgratitude.com)
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To: newgeezer
disproportionate number of black voters

And there ya have it.

36 posted on 09/22/2004 11:11:18 AM PDT by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: MIT-Elephant

Al, Al, the felons pal!


37 posted on 09/22/2004 11:12:38 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: HangThemHigh
Liberals are such hypocrites
38 posted on 09/22/2004 11:13:06 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: Fast1
Tuff $hit Kinda makes me want to cry.

Ain't it sad? Actually, this kind of crap combined with all the non-citizen voting plus double-dipping seasoned citizens makes me lose my respect for the sanctity of the democracy...it makes me want to register in the three states I've lived in the past year and vouteur au trois. Although I'm not going to commit felony - I might unjustly lose my voting rights! *yack*

39 posted on 09/22/2004 11:13:34 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: MIT-Elephant

blah, blah, blah... they've been blocked for a while last i heard.

That said, we should start looking into a "Repatriation" process, where ex-cons can go before a court and show the court that they have stayed clean, crime free for say.... 7 years, and receive their right to vote back.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if such a procedure already exists.


40 posted on 09/22/2004 11:14:07 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: GunnyB

Welcome to my world.

In the Peoples Republic of Maryland, MULTIPLY convicted felons have been given the right to vote now, in between trips to the slammer. Why? Because 65,000 black men were 'disenfranchised'. And now, the Demoncrat controlled House of Delegate wants to extend the voting INTO the prisons!!!!

People laughed at me when I said that the drug gangs were nothing more than Brown Shirts for the Dems. They aren't laughing about it anymore.


41 posted on 09/22/2004 11:17:51 AM PDT by Stashiu ( Yeah, I am a Vietnam Vet, not a War Criminal.)
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To: MIT-Elephant
Rapists and killers can't vote?

I'm soooooooooooo sad.

(NOT)

42 posted on 09/22/2004 11:18:00 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Repub4bush

You think motor voter is bad. We have on the spot registration & all you have to bring as identification is something like a utility bill envelope to prove you're a resident. Even with that, it's not enough for the left, cuz they have registration drives going on. Even if exit polls in Wisconsin give the state to Bush by 10%, expect the state to go to Kerry.


43 posted on 09/22/2004 11:22:53 AM PDT by GoLightly (If it doesn't kill ya, it makes ya stronger.)
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To: GoLightly
This is very scary stuff! There must be a way to revamp our voting system, and make sure only Valid ID's and citizens can vote! Or at least have a valid Picture ID, to keep the dead vote out!

It is truly amazing in the computer age we live in, that these problems can't be solved.

I mean, they could do it in stages.

There must be a way!!

44 posted on 09/22/2004 11:28:48 AM PDT by Repub4bush
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To: MIT-Elephant

Why should violent felons be able to vote in LIBERAL judges or legislators or governors who will use taxpayers money to provide more country club prisons for these vile animals? Who in turn will appoint sentencing commissions to recommend lenient sentences for these vile animals? As it is they only serve roughly 30% of their sentences on state level crimes. Or liberal parole board members.


46 posted on 09/22/2004 11:32:24 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: MIT-Elephant

http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/stover/20031028.htm
By the way, my Merriam-Webster Unabridged Dictionary defines a felon simply as, "a person who has committed a felony." How can anyone convicted of a felony become an ex-felon? A murderer is still a murderer years after his crime. Can we ever call him an ex-murderer?




I'm being too lazy for html. Everything above the line is text from the link. It's a good read.


47 posted on 09/22/2004 11:33:04 AM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Repub4bush

I've thought the same thing since 2000. I thought Margaret Farrow was going to take the issue on. Here we are again, 4 years later & nothing has changed. At this point, I'm sure Doyle will veto any law passed to fix it.


48 posted on 09/22/2004 11:36:19 AM PDT by GoLightly (If it doesn't kill ya, it makes ya stronger.)
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To: MIT-Elephant
Millions of U.S. citizens, including a disproportionate number of black voters,

Disproportionate based on what, blacks as a percentage of the overall population, or as a percentage of convicted felons? The "journalist" who put his/her name on this piece of DNC propaganda probably doesn't have the brains to think this deeply.

49 posted on 09/22/2004 11:36:42 AM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: MIT-Elephant; sweetliberty; nicmarlo; Budge

What else can can we expect from the Democrat Rooters (Reuters).

This is a disgustingly biased article and just one more example of the left-wing media in this country. This is supposed to be news?

Anytime we try and clean up the voter rolls and prevent multiple voting, these people are out screaming disenfrachisement, voter intimidation and suppression.

They want the system left the way it is so they can cheat...nothing else.


50 posted on 09/22/2004 11:37:43 AM PDT by TheLion
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