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To: TChris
Try this experiment...

Place a lot of ice cubes in a bowl (large salad bowl), then fill with water until the ice floats.

When the water over flows the bowl, that's when you can panic, It won't happen though. It's called Displacement. The ice floating in the water already has taken the space of the melt water that will replace the area the ice has taken up. Water level will not increase.

13 posted on 09/24/2004 12:11:42 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I am not late for Zots, I have stealth Zot capability.....)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Thank you. I was just going to post the same thing - you saved me the trouble.

I swear, people must just love to have something to panic about.


18 posted on 09/24/2004 12:14:11 PM PDT by flashbunny (How do you tell which polls are right? Simple. Just look at how the Kerry campaign is acting.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Water level will not increase.

Actually, it will increase, these are ANTARCTIC Glaciers, which means they are on LAND. They are not currently displacing the oceans.

Having said that, I dont know why anybody expected the earth to remain constant, it is always undergoing change..

22 posted on 09/24/2004 12:15:43 PM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
In addition, water is the only substance on earth that contracts as it melts. Therefore, the volume of space occupied by a melted ice cube is less than the volume of space that it occupied when it was a cube.

Having said that, there is no reason to assume that melting glaciers would have no impact on sea level. When the glacier is frozen, the water isn't in the sea -- so when it melts, the water flows down and increases the volume of the body of water underneath it.

26 posted on 09/24/2004 12:18:56 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Place a lot of ice cubes in a bowl (large salad bowl), then fill with water until the ice floats. When the water over flows the bowl, that's when you can panic, It won't happen though. It's called Displacement. The ice floating in the water already has taken the space of the melt water that will replace the area the ice has taken up. Water level will not increase.

Actually, to make the experiment more analogous to earth, you would need to place some rocks in the salad bowl with the tops of the rocks protruding above the top of the water, and then put some of the ice on top of those rocks and not just in the water. That way, when the ice on top of the rocks melts, the salad bowl will over-flow.

29 posted on 09/24/2004 12:21:59 PM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

"Try this experiment...
Place a lot of ice cubes in a bowl (large salad bowl), then fill with water until the ice floats.

When the water over flows the bowl, that's when you can panic, It won't happen though. It's called Displacement. The ice floating in the water already has taken the space of the melt water that will replace the area the ice has taken up. Water level will not increase."

Which is true in the Arctic where all of the ice floats on water. A few months ago the global warming weenies said North Pole ice floes were melting and the world was doomed. Ten year old kids knew they were wrong.

So they moved their fallacious argument to the South Pole where about 70% of the ice is above sea level. It still ain't gonna happen, but the logic isn't so fatally flawed as with their last fairy tale.


49 posted on 09/24/2004 12:33:30 PM PDT by PeterFinn ("John Kerry is a flip-flopper and a phony" - Howell Raines quoted in the Wash. Post)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Some of the Antarctic and Greenland glaciers are coming off land rather than forming in water.


68 posted on 09/24/2004 12:54:52 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Yes, but that doesn't work for Antartica because the ice there is allready sitting on mountain tops.


98 posted on 09/25/2004 8:54:36 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

P.S. But you are correct, floating ice will not raise the level of the water. If anything, it will decrease because water takes up more volume when it is frozen.


99 posted on 09/25/2004 8:56:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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