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Fox: Commercial Pilots 'attacked' with laser
Fox News | Greta Van Susteren

Posted on 09/28/2004 8:12:49 PM PDT by ableChair

Greta Van Susteren reported that a Delta pilot enroute to Salt Lake City was lazed in the cockpit this last Wednesday. Only country I know that has that hardware (for lazing bomber pilots) was the Soviet Union. Pilot reportedly required medical treatment and this was not a minor injury (weak laser) wound. More will come out to tomorrow as this story hits the print press.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; dal; kapitanman; laser
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To: ableChair
Laser hardware is common.

Search eBay and you can find all kinds of things from very low power to industrial energy levels and including everything from infrared to ultraviolet.

The part that strikes me is how to aim it into the cockpit of a plane in flight. That would seem to be very difficult.
121 posted on 09/28/2004 8:56:26 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: ableChair
YAHOO SEARCH IT: Ruby Laser! A relatively low powered laser will shine a light on the moon from your back yard!

Chemical lasers are easy too, you can build them in your home!
122 posted on 09/28/2004 8:56:45 PM PDT by dila813
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To: MissAmericanPie

I think the U.S. military came up with some kind of goggles they issued to flight crews on U.S. surveillance flights near the Soviet border in the 80's.


123 posted on 09/28/2004 8:56:54 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: abner

Yup, get me talking 'bout St Elmo's fire and Green ball lightning sometime... It'll cost ya a couple of 7&7's though >>>> (:^)


124 posted on 09/28/2004 8:57:35 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Robe

Military personnel (Apache drivers, anyway) are supposed to use eyesafe lasers in training. SUPPOSED to, of course...


125 posted on 09/28/2004 8:59:15 PM PDT by GOP Jedi
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To: DB

I'm no expert on laser engineering but I would think that a laser like that would have to be EXTREMELY powerful. Not very common on eBay. Why would someone need something THAT powerful? It has to cut through several kilometers of atmosphere, penetrate UV protected windscreens then hit a man's eye with enough energy to damage or blind him. This ain't no sighting laser!


126 posted on 09/28/2004 8:59:30 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: Kirkwood

Visible light lasers will easily burn your retina. It all comes down to power level and how long you are exposed.


127 posted on 09/28/2004 8:59:40 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Titan Magroyne

The questions I would have are:

1. What altitude was the plane at. If it was 30000ft while descending.

2.What was the delivery system thought to be? On the ground, in the air?

Those two questions when answered will tell us the potential impact.


128 posted on 09/28/2004 9:00:06 PM PDT by L`enn
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To: DB
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3842039344&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

50 watt industrial excimer laser

But with a short focal length and not exactly designed to track and target airborne moving objects.

But since common consumer lasers are a few milliwatts, this is a whole bunch of cooking power.

129 posted on 09/28/2004 9:00:12 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Kirkwood

Tell that to Lt. Daly.

"The Pentagon investigated Daly's claims and concluded from medical examinations that the injuries to his eye were consistent with retinal damage from a low-power laser. "

http://www.aeronautics.ru/nws002/ap036.htm


130 posted on 09/28/2004 9:00:50 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: ableChair
"The word is slang to begin with..."

Wrong. It's an acronym: light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation.
131 posted on 09/28/2004 9:01:33 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: BearWash

50 watts!? Dude, a space heater puts out over a 1000 watts. This laser would have to be MUCH more powerful than 50 watts. All that power is going to be dissipated as it heats the atmosphere over several kilometers distance.


132 posted on 09/28/2004 9:02:47 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: ableChair

Here is another one:

Report: N. Korea Fired Laser at U.S. Warplanes
Tuesday, May 13, 2003

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/13/74427.shtml

On the eve of a meeting between President Bush and South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun, it has been revealed to the Washington Times that North Korea's military fired a laser in March at two U.S. Army helicopters patrolling the demilitarized zone.

According to the report, the laser attack occurred at about the same time that four North Korean jets intercepted a U.S. spy plane and attempted to force it to land in North Korea.


133 posted on 09/28/2004 9:02:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: ableChair

Any bets that this ends up being some teenage boy with too much time on his hands and just "wanted to see what would happen"! No offence to most teenage boys!


134 posted on 09/28/2004 9:03:15 PM PDT by luvie (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Umm, not to nit-pick, but that was not the word to which I was referring. Please read the post again.


135 posted on 09/28/2004 9:03:37 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: abner
All recorded instances that I know of were under very specific conditions, such as the pilot looking directly at the laser beam of a laser designed to be a weapon, or the injuries were sustained when the beam was observed with magnifying optics. Something that is highly unlikely to occur with a commercial pilot

Are laser injuries impossible? No. Are they extremely unlikely? Yes. Very unlikely. I don't doubt that the cockpit was illuminated, but I don't believe the pilot will show any permanent injury by the flash.
136 posted on 09/28/2004 9:03:51 PM PDT by Kirkwood (I think, therefore I am Republican!)
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To: FairOpinion

Whoa...... No Sh!t... I didn't hear 'bout that one...
Got any details ?


137 posted on 09/28/2004 9:04:40 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: spodefly
Greta will find a way to tie Scott Peterson into this. That women is obsessed!
138 posted on 09/28/2004 9:06:40 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: pepperdog

New VCSEL designs are making it possible to fabricate arrays of diode lasers inexpensively on a single wafer.

This really, really creeps me out that any kid will be able to pay a few bucks for a device that can blind people in an instant.


139 posted on 09/28/2004 9:07:29 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Last Dakotan

Yikes.... Just looked at my watch... G'night all

Gotta make some high-schooler lives miserable tomorrow

Robe


140 posted on 09/28/2004 9:08:54 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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