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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: Jet Jaguar

Can anyone corroborate the story sKerry told about the soldiers who told him "We need you"?


1,281 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:24 PM PDT by Honeybunch
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To: Trueblackman

The hands again.

RAPIDLY training the Iraqi's is Kerry's plan.

Bush says 100,000 will be trained by the end of the year.

PM Allawi was here, talked to Senate and Kerry QUESTIONED HIS SINCERITY?????????????? And now Kerry wants a Summit?

Bush: We must be consistent.

Kerry: "right way" "more of the same" Allawi's assessment "they're coming across the border" but Kerry has "a better plan" --

Bush: We're going to win this war in Iraq.


1,282 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:25 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Go Team Bush!)
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To: COEXERJ145

Kerry is looking really good.....very articulate, many facts back and forth.

BUsh is just saying the same talking points.

THIS IS A DISASTER!

I am just about ready to shut it off....Kerry is going to shoot up in the polls like crazy next week.....it is going to be horrible.


1,283 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: All

President Bush is doing GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1,284 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:35 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: OXENinFLA

It's a damn good thing we are not drinking everytime Kerry has taken a position which contradicts a previous position!


1,285 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:35 PM PDT by CurlyBill (John Kerry is PeeWee Herman in a Frankenstein costume)
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To: All

On substance, Kerry is a flake and Bush is winning.

On style, Bush is both calm and defensive. When calm, in his favor. When defensive, pulls even.

Kerry is constantly attacking the President and spouting platitudes.

If people could believe Kerry or even liked him, he might capitalize on the moments when the president is defensive. Neither holds true in this case.

Which means at the moment, at worst, they enter the debates in exactly the same position they were at before which would be a win for the president.


1,286 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:43 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Huber

Yeah I feel buzzed.

Kerry is losing big points by turning the talking point back into Vietnam- it is wholly off the topic and looks like peacocking.

W is calming down, which is good. Kerry still has not had any real plans. He just keeps saying the same things- W does too to some degree, but Kerry really has nothing real to say at all.


1,287 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:43 PM PDT by lawgirl (I like knowing where my President is every night- at home in bed with his wife!)
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To: goodnesswins

> Kerry's "PLAN"......a SUMMIT!!!!!

Well, of course, we'll need France's advice on surrender, Iran's advice on what sort of theocracy should be in place, and Syria's guidance on what sort of punishment we should face for the offence of taking out Saddam.

So given all the required participants, sure, a summit makes perfect sense.


1,288 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:51 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: All

kerry is digging his own grave


1,289 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:52 PM PDT by skutter
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To: SmithL

Kerry keeps saying 90%, this 90% that, He forgets who got hit on sept. 11th 100%!


1,290 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:53 PM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: Admin Moderator

Bubya looks good. Kerry comes across as a lying blowhard.

J F'n has no plan...


1,291 posted on 09/30/2004 6:54:56 PM PDT by telebob
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To: jays911

Kerry's a dirty player. He purposefully waited until Bush was halfway across the stage to make his opening appearance. This gave his handlers the ability to cue the audience supporters to distinguish his entrance with cheers. It was pretty low down but effective. It threw off the President.

Also Kerry's great at 20/20 hindsight. And making sound like he would have seen the myriad of unexpected challenges with greater success. He's the high school smart ass. He's the brown noser at work. He's the guy you love to hate.


1,292 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:00 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Many, i'm a noob here as im sure many people are.


1,293 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:02 PM PDT by Emzloh
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Many, i'm a noob here as im sure many people are.


1,294 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:08 PM PDT by Emzloh
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To: mylife
"Kerry just invoked "pottery Barn"

I'm waiting to see who Williams-Sonoma endorses.

1,295 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:10 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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The enemy attacked us Jim, and I have a solemn duty to protect us...


1,296 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:10 PM PDT by DocRock ('X' marks the spot... where Charley, Frances and Jeanne crossed paths and where I live!)
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To: Iwo Jima

GWB is working to the closer!


1,297 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:15 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: applpie
this is a farce.

Yes, it is. Very biased, and I'm not surprised. We need to make sure the next debate is not like this.

President Bush speaks from the heart, has our best interests at hand, and I'm hoping that the American public sees this.

1,298 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:15 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: rdl6989
Looks to me that Lehrer and Kerry had a pow wow last night.

I've never seen questions timed so much against one person.

1,299 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:15 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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To: Petronski

Next thing you know, Kerry will be saying something like 'Let's make like a tree and get outta here'.


1,300 posted on 09/30/2004 6:55:16 PM PDT by fhayek
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