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USA TODAY/CNN/GALLUP POLL: Bush 49%, Kerry 49%, Nader 1% | Bush JA @ 50%

Posted on 10/03/2004 3:07:34 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Just announced on CNN.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; kerry; poll; polls
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To: Ditter
Do you suppose that is what pissed President Bush off or was it the biased questions by Lehrer?

This was my take- the President figured out from Lehrer's early questions -as did I - that this was not a debate... it was:

a. for GWB, an inqisition

b. for JF-in'K, an advertisement.

Kerry needed no cheat sheets because his handlers wrote the questions (so to speak).

241 posted on 10/03/2004 4:13:16 PM PDT by niteowl77 (Kerry/Edwards - A Stranger America)
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To: OhGeorgia

Stil trying to defend your troll position?

Either way Clinton LOST his first debate. Bush LOST his first debate with Gore. Bush 1 LOST his first debate with Dukakis. Reagan LOST his first debate with Mondale.


242 posted on 10/03/2004 4:13:37 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: urbanrepublican
..... Flash cannot be sustained, substance persists.


243 posted on 10/03/2004 4:13:42 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: neotoon

DU is a far-left board website for moveon.org freaks.


244 posted on 10/03/2004 4:14:02 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Hildy

The Swifites and the convention set Bush up so beautifully. It was in the bag. Grrrrrrr. But Bush has a way of coming back.


245 posted on 10/03/2004 4:14:18 PM PDT by veronica ("Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims." Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: teletech

Clearly the realistic target number of EVs is closer to 300 than it is to 271, which shows your problems in judgment.

How about a friendly wager? Bush's final EV tally will be closer to 325 than it will be to 271?


246 posted on 10/03/2004 4:14:21 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Jorge
"People have been criticizing me since Thursday for saying this. I knew it the night of the debate. Yet WH Comm Director Bartlett is still on TV denying there was anything wrong with Bush's performance in the debate. Incredible. People need to face reality. And the debate on Iraq was supposed to Bush's STRONG issue."

People are criticizing you because you're wrong. Facing reality isn't seeing one bad debate and proclaiming the whole election is over. By many accounts Bush LOST all three debates with Al Gore, but people were turned off by Gore's attitude. This time, Bush lost the first debate, but Kerry has provided some huge whoppers about his positions.

Don;t strut too soon, my friend--your points haven't been proven.

247 posted on 10/03/2004 4:15:11 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: GOP

I remeber people said Gore lost the townhall debate by his demeanor, the space invasion. But I remember a Bush who took on question at random and performed well. Plus alot of Bush campaign rallies have been townhall formats and he has been training for them since day one.


249 posted on 10/03/2004 4:15:20 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Ditter
I think Kerry had not just notes but copies of the questions

There is no doubt Kerry either had the questions or had been given information regarding the questions. Problem is, we are the only ones who seem to know this. Or care.

I was a wreck watching the debate. There where times when I really thought Bush was going to walk off the stage. I really wish I knew exactly what transpired that ticked him off so bad. There is no end to the dirty trickery these guys can come up with so you can only imagine.

250 posted on 10/03/2004 4:16:02 PM PDT by riri
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To: Owen
Yes. Besides the DUmmies have a field day with the numbers, Real Clear Politics has it up.
251 posted on 10/03/2004 4:16:59 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: Owen

I haven't seen or heard anything of it yet.


252 posted on 10/03/2004 4:17:20 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: riri

Kerry pulled out a cheat sheet. Lay you odds 10-1 that is what set G.W. off, and we have the cheat caught on tape.


253 posted on 10/03/2004 4:17:41 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: snarkytart

It is on Gallup's website now. I am really surprised. It is discouraging but on the bright side, it is better to be tied than to be where Bush was for much of the year: behind!

"Conventional wisdom" said Bush would do well in the first debate, and CV was wrong. Pundits (like the often wrong Dick Morris) say domestic issues are kerry's territory. They may well be wrong again and Bush will surprise us with a stronger performance in the remaining debates. Expectations must be pretty low for him now.


254 posted on 10/03/2004 4:18:51 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: AlbionGirl

I think after 9/11 the President proved his ability to lead. Remember his 90% approval ratings! I don't think people have forgotten.


255 posted on 10/03/2004 4:19:08 PM PDT by beckysueb (W for Prez)
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To: Owen

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

It was posted here.


256 posted on 10/03/2004 4:19:12 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: HitmanNY
Clearly the realistic target number of EVs is closer to 300 than it is to 271, which shows your problems in judgment.

How about a friendly wager? Bush's final EV tally will be closer to 325 than it will be to 271?

I think your judgment is ompaired so we are even and lets leave it there. I WILL NOT post to you again!

257 posted on 10/03/2004 4:19:46 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: LS

while mathematically youre right, it is not realistic to think that would happen. States tend to move together. When one candidate improves his national standing he has improved his state standing by at least 5 points in battleground and swing states. In very partisian states his standing will change by less.

In 1968 a 50-50 two party tie produced a 100 EV vote margin for Nixon but I wouldnt expect it this time.

no a 50-50 tie going into the elction baring any massive fraud wil lgive Bush 278-290 EVs. PA will not be more GOP than the nation as a whole, whcih is what youre saying will happen. PA will be 2-4 points more DEM. For Bush to in PA he'll have to get 53% of the two party vote.


258 posted on 10/03/2004 4:19:55 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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To: OhGeorgia

"problem is there are tow more and that debate was suppose to be Bush strong point."

Ah, another fine product of Evenly Woodhead's speed reading, capitalization and spelling courses.


259 posted on 10/03/2004 4:19:57 PM PDT by happydogx2 (Let Freedom Reign!!)
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To: Mojohemi
Let's assume the polls are right and the race is tied. Now is when the fun begins. The 4th quarter is what the race is all about!!

Pray for W and Our Troops

260 posted on 10/03/2004 4:20:06 PM PDT by bray (Swifties Rock!!)
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