Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Gloves off: Cheney takes tough line against Edwards in VP debate
AP ^ | 10/5/4 | Ron Fournier

Posted on 10/05/2004 8:45:20 PM PDT by SmithL

CLEVELAND -- With cold efficiency, Vice President Dick Cheney sought to eviscerate the credibility of the Democratic presidential ticket Tuesday night -- delivering a tough and terse message without the smirks and verbal miscues that cluttered President Bush's debate performance five days ago.

On the receiving end of a well-practiced assault from a veteran politician, Sen. John Edwards held his own in the running mate debate.

"You are still not being straight with the American people," the freshman senator from North Carolina said, zinging Cheney on Iraq, his business ties and insinuations that Saddam Hussein is somehow connected to the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes.

The verbal jousting between two men, awash in details, left pundits and voters impressed, if no more sure about which ticket would win.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; debate; vpdebate
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-38 next last

1 posted on 10/05/2004 8:45:20 PM PDT by SmithL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SmithL

Beat his butt like he owed him money


2 posted on 10/05/2004 8:46:12 PM PDT by skaterboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SmithL

Smack!
That's gotta hurt!


3 posted on 10/05/2004 8:48:46 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Do not indulge the Negative Nervous Nellies with reassurances.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: skaterboy

more like a 'ho who came up short on Saturday night


4 posted on 10/05/2004 8:48:48 PM PDT by misterrob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SmithL
Finally a republican who wasn't afraid to spell out the cold hard facts about J F'n K.


Why was Pres. Bush so afraid to go down this road?


Chenney was the MAN tonight, I won't forget the content of that lead up to the line, " When you walked up on this stage tonight is the first time I met you."


KICKED HIS @SS TONIGHT!
5 posted on 10/05/2004 8:49:25 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SmithL
I thought Cheney replied in a cool and efficient manner. It was his aloofness and calmness that killed Edwards. And I was surprised that the moderator did not give Edwards a pass on tough questions as Leher did Kerry.
6 posted on 10/05/2004 8:50:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Save a Democrat! Vote Republican!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SmithL

i'm surprised that cheney didn't break out laughing when brecky announced that kerry had voted for over 600 tax cuts


7 posted on 10/05/2004 8:50:32 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Bender : This is the worst kind of discrimination. The kind against me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SmithL
"John Edwards, I've known VP candidates, and you John Edwards are no VP candidate!"

"Senator No-Show meet Senator Gone!"


8 posted on 10/05/2004 8:51:00 PM PDT by Prost1 (To trust John Kerry is to hate America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Prost1

On MSNBC the pundits are declaring a Cheney victory in the most decisive terms that I have ever heard. Fox’s pundits actually said Edwards won the second half of the debate. At The Corner, many of the bloggers are calling it a draw. I am with MSNBC, Big Time. I have never seen a poorer performance in a debate than I saw from Edwards tonight – at least not that I can recall. Maybe someone can remind me of one.

A couple of the quotes that Tom Brokaw, Tim Russert and Chris Matthews are repeating (in awe, actually) are the one about not being able to stand up to al Queda if they can’t stand up to Howard Dean, and the one about meeting Edwards for the first time on that stage tonight. Matthews said Cheney had his ammunition and went hunting for squirrel, and he found a squirrel. Russert said Cheney could take Trump’s place on the Apprentice because tonight he told Edwards, “you’re fired.”

Now the pundits on MSNBC are talking about how Cheney made a clear and decisive case that Edwards is not ready to be a heartbeat away. First Gwen Ifill did a pretty decent job as moderator and now the pundits on MSNBC, of all places, are calling it correctly. Cheney definitely hit a home run.

One thing Matthews has been harping on for months and just can’t seem to understand came up in his analysis tonight. Brian Williams played the clip of Cheney saying he never said there was a connection between Iraq and 9/11, then showed a clip from MTP where Cheney said the action against Iraq was an integral part of the war against terrorists and especially those who attacked us on 9/11. They claimed it was Cheney saying Iraq was connected to 9/11. It was not. Let me explain this to Matthews one more time. Iraq was not about retribution for 9/11/2001. It was about preventing a 9/11/2005 or 2006 or 2007. Is that really so hard to understand?

Posted by Lorie Byrd at 11:40 pm
http://www.polipundit.com/


9 posted on 10/05/2004 8:52:08 PM PDT by USA_Soccer (Try a better (free + open source) browser -> Mozilla Firefox @ mozilla.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SmithL

Cheney did us proud tonight.

Unlike Bush's debate Cheney was on his game and made Edwards look like a high school freshman.

He was especially blunt when he said that he had just met Edwards tonight because Edwards had missed most of his Senate roll calls.


10 posted on 10/05/2004 8:52:29 PM PDT by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dagoofyfoot
Finally a republican who wasn't afraid to spell out the cold hard facts about J F'n K.

The CO is always nicer than the XO. It's built into their job descriptions.

11 posted on 10/05/2004 8:53:25 PM PDT by SmithL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SmithL
" President Bush's debate performance "

LOL!

I'm surprised Fournier didn't insist that the AP headline be "Cheney Beats Bush In Debate".

And editors think anyone takes AP seriously...

12 posted on 10/05/2004 8:53:35 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: USA_Soccer
the one about not being able to stand up to al Queda if they can’t stand up to Howard Dean

I love that quote! I'm surprised the networks would focus on that quote -- it's pretty devastating to Kerry and Edwards.

13 posted on 10/05/2004 8:54:18 PM PDT by 68skylark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: mrsmith

Cheney took his gravitas and clubbed the breck boy like a baby seal. A thing of beauty


14 posted on 10/05/2004 8:55:11 PM PDT by bpjam (I don't know what a neo-con is and neither does anybody else.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: bpjam

He's a hell of a guy, especially for a politician.


15 posted on 10/05/2004 8:56:22 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: USA_Soccer

-Dick Cheney has a problem with regards to his position on homosexuality. But he is always at least outwardly gracious when he discusses the issue.

-Cheney is very smart. I didn't think he did that well, and was amazed that he got declared winner in the snap polls and in the MSM. I thought Cheney was much better against Lieberman. But Cheney is smart, and knows when to reply to attacks, and when it is a waste of time to reply--instead of just naturally replying to every attack. I would really trust him as Commander in Chief.


16 posted on 10/05/2004 8:59:13 PM PDT by guitarist (commonsense)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SmithL

**Yawn**

Typical biased AP reporting shown in the use of adjectives. Cheney is described as "cold and efficient", while "younger and flashier" goes to Edwards. Also, the predictable numbnut, middle-of-the-roader chimes in with his dopey uhhh-why-can't-these-guys-be-prez comment by saying they did better than the headliners.


17 posted on 10/05/2004 8:59:59 PM PDT by edpc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: guitarist
I would really trust him as Commander in Chief.

Me too -- big time.

18 posted on 10/05/2004 9:00:37 PM PDT by 68skylark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: SmithL

Ugh! Just heard frazzled Colmes, say, "well, Cheney did better than "YOUR" President did last Thursday, er, our President. Whadda jerk!


19 posted on 10/05/2004 9:01:36 PM PDT by IamHD
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dagoofyfoot
They were saving this for October, Kerry's record is the October surprise because he can't refute it and it is damaging.
20 posted on 10/05/2004 9:05:25 PM PDT by zkbeta51
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-38 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson