On MSNBC the pundits are declaring a Cheney victory in the most decisive terms that I have ever heard. Fox’s pundits actually said Edwards won the second half of the debate. At The Corner, many of the bloggers are calling it a draw. I am with MSNBC, Big Time. I have never seen a poorer performance in a debate than I saw from Edwards tonight – at least not that I can recall. Maybe someone can remind me of one.
A couple of the quotes that Tom Brokaw, Tim Russert and Chris Matthews are repeating (in awe, actually) are the one about not being able to stand up to al Queda if they can’t stand up to Howard Dean, and the one about meeting Edwards for the first time on that stage tonight. Matthews said Cheney had his ammunition and went hunting for squirrel, and he found a squirrel. Russert said Cheney could take Trump’s place on the Apprentice because tonight he told Edwards, “you’re fired.”
Now the pundits on MSNBC are talking about how Cheney made a clear and decisive case that Edwards is not ready to be a heartbeat away. First Gwen Ifill did a pretty decent job as moderator and now the pundits on MSNBC, of all places, are calling it correctly. Cheney definitely hit a home run.
One thing Matthews has been harping on for months and just can’t seem to understand came up in his analysis tonight. Brian Williams played the clip of Cheney saying he never said there was a connection between Iraq and 9/11, then showed a clip from MTP where Cheney said the action against Iraq was an integral part of the war against terrorists and especially those who attacked us on 9/11. They claimed it was Cheney saying Iraq was connected to 9/11. It was not. Let me explain this to Matthews one more time. Iraq was not about retribution for 9/11/2001. It was about preventing a 9/11/2005 or 2006 or 2007. Is that really so hard to understand?
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I love that quote! I'm surprised the networks would focus on that quote -- it's pretty devastating to Kerry and Edwards.
-Dick Cheney has a problem with regards to his position on homosexuality. But he is always at least outwardly gracious when he discusses the issue.
-Cheney is very smart. I didn't think he did that well, and was amazed that he got declared winner in the snap polls and in the MSM. I thought Cheney was much better against Lieberman. But Cheney is smart, and knows when to reply to attacks, and when it is a waste of time to reply--instead of just naturally replying to every attack. I would really trust him as Commander in Chief.
here, here! absolute kudos to gwen ifill for a fair and balanced moderation. lets hope shieffer takes note .
I may have to start watching MSNBC a little more. That was about as much of a draw as the Red Sox/Angels game. Now that Fox has the ratings, they're becoming more and more like every other network, in the hopes that the other media whores will declare them respectable. I almost think that MSNBC, after the Donahue debacle, is almost deciding to go guerilla, and try to outfox Fox. There isn't any room on the left, but there's plenty of room to the right of Fox. Everyone they've hired for the last two years is left of center.