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The Human Family Tree: 10 Adams and 18 Eves
NY Times ^ | May 2, 2000 | NICHOLAS WADE

Posted on 10/10/2004 8:21:08 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
But geneticists, by tracing the DNA patterns found in people throughout the world, have now identified lineages descended from 10 sons of a genetic Adam and 18 daughters of Eve.

Then how would that make "10 Adams and 18 Eves"? Did Adam and Eve clone themselves? Shouldn't the title be "10 Sons and 18 Daughters?"

41 posted on 10/11/2004 10:04:11 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Don't tell my mother I work for CBS. She thinks I'm a towel boy in a bordello.)
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To: DannyTN

Well he lived to 900 he had to be doing something for all those centuries.


42 posted on 10/11/2004 10:04:31 AM PDT by escapefromboston
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To: djf
The earlobe mitochondria bear an unfair burden of opprobrium because the noise they make is so easily heard. But the "no soup" remedy is appropriate. Good call!
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

Election 2004 threads on FR

43 posted on 10/11/2004 10:05:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: martin_fierro; Constitution Day
10 Adams and 18 Eves

This conclusively proves that the Garden of Eden was near Surf City.

44 posted on 10/11/2004 10:09:18 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (I want to have fanatical henchmen when I grow up.)
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To: neverdem
...and then, months later...
A new mystery evolves on trail of early humans
by Emily Sohn
06/26/2000
Dallas News
New studies of the Y chromosome, the bundle of DNA that distinguishes men from women, suggest that current branches of the human family tree derive from a male ancestor who may have lived only 50,000 years ago, scientists reported last week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Previous studies, based on a type of DNA passed on only by women, indicate that the most recent common female ancestor, or "Eve," lived at least 150,000 years ago... "Something happened to the record 50,000 to 60,000 years ago," said Peter Oefner, a biologist at the Stanford DNA Sequencing and Technology Center and one of the authors of the study. "We started at ground zero again." ...The new evidence, based on analysis of the DNA of 72 males from 46 populations, is striking, Dr. Oefner said... Dr. Oefner is quick to warn that... [t]he average estimate coming out of the new data is 50,000 years, he said, but that male could have lived anywhere from 40,000 to 140,000 years ago.

45 posted on 10/11/2004 10:11:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL -- oh, STFU. < |:)~


46 posted on 10/11/2004 10:11:12 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Want some wood?)
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To: neverdem
10 Adams and 18 Eves?

I like those odds!!

;->
47 posted on 10/11/2004 10:14:46 AM PDT by djf
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To: Eastbound
Science confirms.

Yes indeed! The Holy Bible rules!

48 posted on 10/11/2004 10:14:53 AM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Howdy! MIT has been doing some research as well. Check this out:

Human populations are tightly interwoven

The most recent common ancestor of all humanity lived just a few thousand years ago, according to a computer model of our family tree. Researchers have calculated that the mystery person, from whom everyone alive today is directly descended, probably lived around 1,500 BC in eastern Asia.

Another article I saw this morning is even more fascinating:

Mexico discovery fuels debate about man's origins

49 posted on 10/11/2004 10:33:28 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo (Kerry is scary)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
:')
Human populations are tightly interwoven
  Posted by AZLiberty
On General/Chat ^ 09/30/2004 11:17:34 AM PDT · 27 replies · 206+ views


Nature | September 29, 2004 | Michael Hopkin
The most recent common ancestor of all humanity lived just a few thousand years ago, according to a computer model of our family tree. Researchers have calculated that the mystery person, from whom everyone alive today is directly descended, probably lived around 1,500 BC in eastern Asia. Douglas Rohde of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Cambridge and his colleagues devised the computer program to simulate the migration and breeding of humans across the world. By estimating how different groups intermingle, the researchers built up a picture of how tightly the world's ancestral lines are linked. The figure of 1,500...
 
thanks for that other link, I've got that in another window.
50 posted on 10/11/2004 11:02:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: djf
10 Adams and 18 Eves?

I like those odds!!

But they're all your sisters!

51 posted on 10/11/2004 11:14:30 AM PDT by mwyounce
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To: mwyounce

a family reunion is a good place to pick up dates.


52 posted on 10/11/2004 11:32:51 AM PDT by escapefromboston
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To: walden

When they speak of 1 adam/1 eve they are not speaking of one person but of one genetic signature which represents a close nit population, of limited size.


53 posted on 10/11/2004 12:11:16 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: dsc

Have you ever seen the gentic bottle neck and defect results from even a small population of say 10 or 20 individual interbreeding? Eventually infertility sets in and the population dies off. This is true of most higher animals: tigers, humans, apes, etc.


54 posted on 10/11/2004 12:15:16 PM PDT by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: neverdem

Brings up some interesting questions:

1. 10 guys-18 women. Which of the guys didn't get two wives?

2. Since gay men presumably don't reproduce, how did homosexuality become a genetic trait (at least according to some current theorists)


55 posted on 10/11/2004 1:03:25 PM PDT by wildbill
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2. Since gay men presumably don't reproduce, how did homosexuality become a genetic trait (at least according to some current theorists)

I don't know, but maybe the X chromosome has a tendency for mutations. ;^)

56 posted on 10/11/2004 1:22:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the PING


57 posted on 10/11/2004 3:28:44 PM PDT by Henchman (Kerry lied, good men died!)
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To: dsc
"Only 2,000 people in the entire world. "

YUP! (75,000 Years Ago)

Super Volcano Toba

"Their is substantial evidence to show that within the time of the super volcano Toba's eruption in the Indonesian Pacific, the world's population of homo sapiens decreased from over one hundred thousand to less than two thousand, basically because global temperatures dropped five degrees for many years. This was within the current interglacial and at its start."

58 posted on 10/11/2004 5:36:53 PM PDT by blam
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo; SunkenCiv
"Mexico discovery fuels debate about man's origins "

Excellent article. Should be posted as a 'stand-alone' article. Thanks for posting.

59 posted on 10/11/2004 5:44:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: xJones

So, this means we are all African-Americans?


60 posted on 10/11/2004 5:54:53 PM PDT by Twinkie
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