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My thanks to BulletBobCo for the concept of this
pic and to Conspiracy Guy for the captions!
Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Kerry Lost Security Clearance!
Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerry’s Navy security clearance.
Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.
Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.
Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.
Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the “Peace Talks.” While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.
These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.
Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didn’t want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.
However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerry’s security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”
The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
Today, he couldn’t get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!
Thanks for the explanation.
Need independent confirmation of this. I've heard rumors of it before, but never got enough confirmation to do anything with. If true, THIS is a grenade in the Kerry tent.
This is quite possibly the dumbest argument I've ever had on FR.
Do you remember any bold headlines in the Newspapers and on TV in 1992 or in 2000 between the vote of the Electoral College and the Inaguration saying "Clinton Receives Top Secret Clearance, Can Serve as President" or "Bush Passes Security Check, Inauguration Plans Go Forward."?
How exactly do you visualize the process of someone being elected President and then not having access to any classified material? Or being prevented from being "President" by failing a background check?
Being elected President has little in common with being hired to shuffle papers on a desk at the CIA as an analyst.
Sorry. The way it goes is anyone elected by the people has full access to all classified material.
Otherwise the Presidents wouldn't be selected by a vote of the people and the Electoral College; Presidents would be selected by a small group of mid-level CIA and FBI bureaucrats.
Kerry is unfit for command.
well, like some pointed out on this thread, thats why he had it changed in the 90's.
Holy Smokes. HAHAHAHAHAHA Kerry is in deep doodoo!
let's see him flip this flop!
Yep, I'd say we've found a deep-cover troll.
Thanks for the ping. I need to catch up with what's been going on this morning! :)
Just a little nuance: legality resides in various international treaties not in the halls of the UN. It was legal but even though it was poorly executed it was ultimately successful.
Thanks for the ping!!
My thanks to BulletBobCo for the concept of this
pic and to Conspiracy Guy for the captions!
Most of the PDB are classified TS or above. If he can't get those briefings.
There are questions as to whether he did or not back in the 70's when he was discharged from the Navy
The only way to find out for sure is for Kerry to sign the 180 form
He REFUSES to do so
And the mainstream media hasn't even gotten to the Winter Soldier senatorial assassination meetings of 1971 in Kansas City yet..
You mean his contacts helped bring about more pain and suffering for our soldiers who were prisoners of war.
One question... why would a garden variety lieutenant on a swift boat have a top secret clearance? Is that standard? If so, it would seem there are entirely too many people with top secret clearances i.e. access to the most important secrets of the country.
Gee...do you mean that "Coke ISN'T It???"
"I personally commend Senator Kerry for standing up against the US government and the atrocities it soldiers committed in Vietnam. His contacts with the North Vietnamese helped bring this illegal war to a speedy end."
You've got to be kidding, right??? What he did and said jeopardized our soldiers and our POW's...just like he is doing now...he did all of this for his own glory and could care less about the soldiers....that is why he is unfit to command!
Odd for ruiner, most of his/her past posts are very good?!?!?
Thought experiment.
Bill Clinton in 1999 makes sure a bunch of his buddies are hired to be on the clearance committee or whatever in the CIA or FBI.
Supreme Court rules on the recount, Electoral College votes...
But then the clearance committee of midlevel bureaucrat partisan hacks says..."Wait a minute. Can't give W a clearance because of that drunk driving conviction...Gore is President.
Being President is a hell of a lot different from whatever jobs you had.
They could have pics of Kerry dressed in an NVA uniform, holding his AK 47 drinking a toast with Ho Chi Minh, and Mao, with captured Americans as the furniture, and the press would want to know where Bush was THAT WEEK and did he have the records to prove it.
Which atrocities are those? You mean the ones debunked in the book Stolen Valor?
Sleeper cell alert.
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