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Kerry Says He Could Change Position On Gay Marriage
Maranatha Christian Journal ^ | Oct. 17, 2004 | BP

Posted on 10/17/2004 10:49:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion

In an interview with the nation's largest homosexual magazine just weeks before the election, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry leaves open the possibility that he will change his position on same-sex "marriage" and says he will nominate judges who will fight for homosexual causes.

The interview is part of the Oct. 26 edition of The Advocate, which features Kerry on the cover.

The Massachusetts senator has drawn praise from activists for his opposition to the Marriage Protection Amendment but consternation from some for his stated opposition to same-sex "marriage."

Asked directly by The Advocate if he "would ever change" his mind on same-sex "marriage," Kerry left the door open.

"I have my view, and my view is my view," Kerry said. "I can't tell you in 20 years or whenever, if someone made a persuasive argument, the world changes. ... So I don't predict the future. What I tell you is that my position is what it is."

Kerry gave a list of reasons homosexuals should support him Nov. 2:

-- He voted against the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which gives states the option of not recognizing another state's same-sex "marriage" law.

-- He supports expanding hate crimes laws to include homosexuality.

-- He supports civil unions and favors giving same-sex couples all the federal benefits of marriage.

"I am for civil unions," he said. "Tell me, what presidential candidate in the history of the nation has supported that?'

One of the most important issues for the homosexual community, Kerry asserted, is the federal judiciary.

Nine states are involved in same-sex "marriage" lawsuits, and the Defense of Marriage Act is being challenged in a federal court in Florida. If DOMA is overturned, then presumably all 50 states would be forced to recognize same-sex "marriages" from Massachusetts, the only state where it is legal.

"If [homosexuals] think that they want a Supreme Court with more justices like Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia, then they should stay home," Kerry said. "But if they want a Court appointed by John Kerry that's going to fight for equality in America and a fair interpretation of the equal protection clause and due process, this is the most important election of our lifetime."

Homosexuals, Kerry said, must understand the issues.

"I believe this is important for the community like no other race historically, and the leaders of the community need to stand up and say, 'Hey, folks, let's pass ENDA [the Employment Non-Discrimination Act], let's pass hate-crimes legislation. Let's make sure that there's a Supreme Court that isn't going to take rights away that are critical to our ability to make progress.' That, I think, is what is at stake in this race," he said.

Underscoring his support for civil unions, Kerry said he believes homosexual couples should receive the same federal benefits that married couples receive.

"I'm for the federal benefits because those are rights," he said. "Those are not defined by marriage; those are rights afforded by the government. In my judgment those rights should be afforded as a matter of right."

Kerry also re-iterated his opposition to the Defense of Marriage Act. Asked if it could be repealed, he said, "It's the law of the land, and you're not going to repeal that with the current Congress. There aren't enough votes."

The military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy on homosexuals should be reviewed, said Kerry, who previously has stated his opposition to it.

"It's not working, and we have to find a way to have equality in participation in the military," he said. "I've committed to find a way to work through the issues."

On homosexual issues, Kerry said, the choice in the election is clear.

"[I]f people are going to make progress on issues like these, they'd better support people like me who've taken risks to stand up for what's right," he said. "And when I stood up on that floor on the U.S. Senate and said, 'That's gay bashing, and I'm not going to be a part of it, and that's wrong,' I hope people will stand up for me in this race and give me the opportunity to fight for things that are right."

If elected, Kerry said, "We're going to have a very different debate in this country."

Although every Democratic candidate since 1992 has given The Advocate an interview, Kerry is the first one to talk to the magazine weeks before the election. The interview was conducted in early September.

"As the Bush campaign has gone out of its way to woo conservative Christians, the Kerry campaign has gone out of its way to reach GLBT [gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender] voters," the magazine notes.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Missouri; US: Ohio; US: Wisconsin
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To: FairOpinion
"Kerry Says He Could Change Position On Gay Marriage"

Change from bride to groom? About time...

81 posted on 10/17/2004 11:58:52 PM PDT by Smoote
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To: bootyist-monk

To: FairOpinion


A lavender marriage made in heaven, wouldn't you say?...


82 posted on 10/17/2004 11:58:58 PM PDT by ladysnape (Is it more dangerous to be naive, or to be naive AND dangerous?)
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To: scoastie
This just shows that Kerry will do anything and say anything to win.

- Says that he is against Gay marriage, but could change his mind.
- He voted against the 87 billion to support the troops, but 2 weeks earlier said it would be irresponsible to vote against it.
- For the Israeli-Palestinian wall when talking to Jews, but against it when talking to Arabs.
- Says he believes life starts at conception, yet has voted every single time against pro-life.
- When he came back from Vietnam, he claimed that all soldiers were committing atrocities, murdering and raping women and children on a daily basis, without any real proof.
83 posted on 10/17/2004 11:58:59 PM PDT by igoramus987
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To: ladysnape
If the way they "kiss" is any indication, they both get what they want. She: Doesn't have to be an old widow all alone. He: Cash, houses, boats, planes, more cash. A true November, December romance. Outside of Washington circles, she would've married her hairdresser, personal shopper, interior designer, dance instructor or dog-walker. Instead, she traded for a senator that couldn't compete with Mr. Heinz.
84 posted on 10/18/2004 12:05:29 AM PDT by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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To: bootyist-monk

yeah, very Convenient.....


85 posted on 10/18/2004 12:09:14 AM PDT by ladysnape (Is it more dangerous to be naive, or to be naive AND dangerous?)
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To: FairOpinion

In other words, I'll promise anything if it means you'll vote for me . . .


86 posted on 10/18/2004 12:10:19 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: bootyist-monk

I like the artwork that you use with your messages...It's booty-ful!


87 posted on 10/18/2004 12:12:58 AM PDT by ladysnape (Is it more dangerous to be naive, or to be naive AND dangerous?)
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To: MJY1288

I sure hope so!~


88 posted on 10/18/2004 12:35:25 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: FairOpinion
LOL! According to John Fuckin', his gay marriage position is simple - it can be summed up in three words: he's foragainst it. laughing.
89 posted on 10/18/2004 12:36:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion

It's really not hard to decide who to vote for, you either vote for good or evil, period and it's pretty easy to see who is good and who is evil.


90 posted on 10/18/2004 12:36:46 AM PDT by garylmoore (God Bless W)
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To: goldstategop
LOL! According to John F*ckin', his gay marriage position is simple - it can be summed up in three words: he's foragainst it.
91 posted on 10/18/2004 12:39:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: little jeremiah

"the Defense of Marriage Act is being challenged in a federal court in Florida. If DOMA is overturned, then presumably all 50 states would be forced to recognize same-sex "marriages" from Massachusetts, the only state where it is legal."

My guess is that the federal courts will not rule on DOMA until AFTER the election. Unfortunately, people in the states that have passed laws to protect marriage don't understand that their state is NOT protected.

If the federal court in Florida doesn't overturn DOMA, you can count on some other liberal court doing it in another state after the election.


92 posted on 10/18/2004 12:54:47 AM PDT by Susannah (What's less united than the USA during war? > the UN !)
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To: Susannah

When John F*ckin' says he'll appoint judges who will overturn the DOMA, take him at his word. After all, he was one of only 14 Senators to vote against the law. His sympathy and commitment to advance the pro-gay, anti-family agenda is both broad and deep.


93 posted on 10/18/2004 1:00:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion

Of course this raises the dilemma of how Kerry can change his position when he doesn't have one. I think the song "Karma Chameleon" was written with Kerry in mind:

I'm a man without conviction
I'm a man who doesn't know
How to sell a contradiction. . .


94 posted on 10/18/2004 1:17:34 AM PDT by Fedora
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To: FairOpinion

That is not a flattering cover shot. Yuck.


95 posted on 10/18/2004 1:21:04 AM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Carry_Okie

***I like, "Kerry Goes Both Ways on Gay Marriage." ***

LOL! PERFECT


96 posted on 10/18/2004 1:28:09 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: FairOpinion
"Kerry Says He Could Change Position On Gay Marriage Everything."
97 posted on 10/18/2004 1:37:04 AM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: FairOpinion
Underscoring his support for civil unions, Kerry said he believes homosexual couples should receive the same federal benefits that married couples receive.

"I'm for the federal benefits because those are rights," he said. "Those are not defined by marriage; those are rights afforded by the government. In my judgment those rights should be afforded as a matter of right."

In any state that would allow same-sex marriages, the state would have to allow any two men (or any two women), to get married, whether the two men (or two women) were homosexual or not. I could imagine two heterosexual men (or two heterosexual women) getting married just so they would make themselves eligible for the rights and benefits that married couples receive. And the two men (or women) marrying each other wouldn't need to hide the fact that they're not homosexuals. I couldn't imagine that there would be anything in a same-sex marriage law that would require the two applicants for a same-sex marriage license to swear and affirm that they are homosexuals.

By the way, I am 100% opposed to same-sex marriages.

98 posted on 10/18/2004 1:38:11 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: flashbunny; FairOpinion
He has a firm, deeply held belief that John Kerry should be president.

I'm not even sure that's true, based on some of the gaffes he's made. Maybe you could say that he has a somewhat deeply held belief that you should vote for him, regardless of whether or not he feels he deserves it. Maybe.
99 posted on 10/18/2004 1:45:23 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: Cobra64
"I have my view, and my view is my view," Kerry said. "I can't tell you in 20 years or whenever, if someone made a persuasive argument, the world changes. ... So I don't predict the future. What I tell you is that my position is what it is."
Preserving this for posterity ... ;-)
100 posted on 10/18/2004 1:54:32 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (OK Swifties - Its October! Let'm have it!)
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