Posted on 10/18/2004 6:43:11 PM PDT by wagglebee
True..
What did people do before they were chatting away on line...
Survey of Freeper Hermits/
Good Survey!
I know what I was doing before FReeperdom engulfed my being, but I can't discuss it in public out of fear that it would incinerate me...
I am sure your not the only one...:)
No doubt. I think men are fairly boorish now in mixed company. There just isn't a stigma attached to acting like a jerk as there was even 25 years ago.
Traditionally women have had a 'domesticating' effect on males. I always figured that was a good thing.
I do think that our culture, on balance, is just too sensitive - on one hand both men and women have more education, make more money, and have more options than ever before.
At the same time, they seem to be hopelessly sensitive. An off the cuff remark can be deemed 'offensive' and these strong, educated winners wilt and cry out. It's insane, really.
In an episode of 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' Larry David off-handedly refers to someone as a 'mulatto.' The small party he was at was evidently appalled, and his wife insisted that the word now was 'biracial.' Larry didn't know and he certainly didn't mean to hurt anyone, yet it didn't stop his circle of friends from being 'hurt' by the (clearly innocent) use of the word.
Between 1970 and 1990, I think, a whole generation has seems to buy into the mindset that they are entitled to go through life without being 'offended.' Truth is, this is really a kind of 'mock offended' - nobody's feelings are really hurt by casual use of a word like 'mulatto,' 'blind,' or 'crippled.' Yet, the self appointed guardians of people's feelings have no harm coming down on others (and ostensibly hurt their feelings) in the name of a one-sided standard they set for decency.
I consider myself lucky - nobody during my life has ever felt bad about offending me, so I learned to take it. :-)
Hey, thanks! The men and women of america does seem to need all the help they can get, huh? Maybe it's my calling! Haha! Keep the faith!
Kudos to you!
That's pretty cool! or should I say hot!
It used to take a hell of a lot of beer.
Apparently I was born 20 yrs too early
I agree 100% that there is no longer a stigma against men behaving rudely among mixed company. I really think that stigma should come back, actually. You are right - men should behave better and situations like this wouldn't come up.
That being said, I don't buy into the exaggerated sensitivity on the part of the women, either. It's simply silly that a remark that could be considered suggestive might excite a woman at an office if it comes from a hunky UPS guy, but seriously 'offends' if it comes from Moe in accounting.
That she may find one welcome and titillating, and one somehow 'offensive' and legally actionable, despite being the same remark, is simply silly to me.
Both sexes need to grow up a bit on matters like this.
Women use to do only things like that when they were drunk 20 yrs ago now a days thery do it Sober....
man, i got out my old x-ray vision glasses and checked her out--she's pretty hot.
(anyone out there want to buy some x-ray vision glasses?)
Damn,Its tough to get old. ;-)
I am self-taught.
You're not a pervert, because I'm one, and you're never at the meetings.
Oh dear, poor Winona will never live that down!
You know, there was a story in the tabloids that Winona had been nabbed for shoplifting while a teen. The cop escorted Winona home, to report her to her parents. When mom opened the door and heard what happened, she went ballistic on the cop for arresting her poor daughter.
Fifty years ago, if a man made a vulgar remark to a woman, whe was a boorish cad showing disrespect. Now he's a sexist pig guilty of sexual harassment. Same misbehavior, but the source of indignation is different: vulgarity is acceptable, but "sexism" isn't.
Many modern day people mock our Victorian ancestors for their "prudery" or even our parents for their "1950s repression," but our society is every bit as prudish, repressed and judgmental as anyone in the 1850s or 1950s: we're just prudish, repressed and judgmental about different things.
That being said, I don't buy into the exaggerated sensitivity on the part of the women, either. It's simply silly that a remark that could be considered suggestive might excite a woman at an office if it comes from a hunky UPS guy, but seriously 'offends' if it comes from Moe in accounting.
LOL! Cute guys can get away with more!
If he has the influence or power to affect her career, and if he is talking about, for example, Sex and the City, in order to soften her up, and gradually erode her defenses; and she's afraid that he'll be spiteful if she resists or reproves him...then it's intimidation and harassment.
my non-professional reaction to the o'reilly case is that he is such a narcissistic ego-maniac that i think he could easily sexually harass a woman on the phone and think that she was enjoying it.
what is the name of his show? it is a "news" show, but he names it after himself.
i doubt if narcissists of his level can really even comprehend that someone might not think he is wonderful.
i hope she wins.
You know things are bad when even middle-aged liberals complain about how badly behaved so many young people are today.
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