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Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge...
The Federalist Patriot ^ | October 2004

Posted on 10/22/2004 3:25:08 PM PDT by The Loan Arranger

"Never suppose that in any possible situation, or under any circumstances, it is best for you to do a dishonorable thing..." --Thomas Jefferson

"Reporting for duty"? For a guy who's hitched his entire presidential campaign to his military service record, John Kerry sure is parsimonious when it comes to releasing that record. As noted in this column on more than one occasion, Kerry has consistently refused to sign a Standard Form 180 authorizing the Department of Defense to release all of his records.

(Excerpt) Read more at federalistpatriot.us ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; kerry; kerrydischarge; navy; prescarter; rather; vietnam
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bttt


101 posted on 10/23/2004 2:47:29 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Gibtx

I've been reading your posts. For some strange (and hopeful) reason, I believe you.

I keep telling my husband not to worry. We WILL have 4 more years! I just know it.

I do love the phrase "shock and awe."


102 posted on 10/23/2004 2:52:36 AM PDT by fawn796
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!


103 posted on 10/23/2004 3:08:09 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: fawn796

fear is good it makes us do things.... donate 25 bucks to swifities..... or something like that... this will all help....

any way i pay for play here, swifts, rather.com, lgf. so


104 posted on 10/23/2004 8:53:10 AM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: Gibtx
Now I am curious ... Here is the official Carter pardon from DOJ. It doesn't say directly whether a discharge could be changed -- I would imagine that some lawyer could interpret if the less than honorable discharge would qualify. My guess is it does.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE JANUARY 21, 1977

Office of the White House Press Secretary


THE WHITE HOUSE

GRANTING PARDON FOR VIOLATIONS
OF THE SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT,
AUGUST 4, 1964 TO MARCH 28, 1973


BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
A PROCLAMATION

Acting pursuant to the grant of authority in Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution of the United States, I, Jimmy Carter, President of the United States, do hereby grant a full, complete and unconditional pardon to: (1) all persons who may have committed any offense between August 4, 1964 and March 28, 1973 in violation of the Military Selective Service Act or any rule or regulation promulgated thereunder; and (2) all persons heretofore convicted, irrespective of the date of conviction, of any offense committed between August 4, 1964 and March 28, 1973 in violation of the Military Selective Service Act, or any rule or regulation promulgated thereunder, restoring to them full political, civil and other rights.

This pardon does not apply to the following who are specifically excluded therefrom:

(1) All persons convicted of or who may have committed any offense in violation of the Military Selective Service Act, or any rule or regulation promulgated thereunder, involving force or violence; and

(2) All persons convicted of or who may have committed any offense in violation of the Military Selective Service Act, or any rule or regulation promulgated thereunder, in connection with duties or responsibilities arising out of employment as agents, officers or employees of the Military Selective Service system.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this 21st day of January, in the year of our Lord nineteen
hundred and seventy-seven, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and first.

JIMMY CARTER
# # #
Executive Order

---------------------------------------------------------

More info -- Here is a page from a group which was pushing for pardons of less than honorable discharges. Clearly fixing less than honorable discharges was something being talked about at the time.

105 posted on 10/23/2004 9:29:17 AM PDT by snooker
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To: Gibtx

"...donate 25 bucks to swifities..."

Yeah, I know. I donated $50 today to the Swifties (God bless them!), and this month have donated to the NRA and the GOP also.


106 posted on 10/23/2004 11:18:26 AM PDT by fawn796
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To: NorthGA
I wonder why our media does not endlessly question him on his unwillingness to release his military, medical and tax records? I know most media favors him, but the desire for full disclosure is firmly imprinted on every reporter.

Why doesn't someone from FoxNews ask him???

Kerry is a fraud. And if he becomes President this country will be shown to be a fraud for letting it happen ....... no, for promoting him.

107 posted on 10/23/2004 4:49:57 PM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: dodger
Actually, it is sickening how pusillanimous & overtly complicit the old media have been this election year.

It's more. It's corrupt and will be the downfall of the nation. The old media is the most ruthless and destructive institution in the country.

The bigwigs in the old media should all be taken out in the ocean and dropped in the water and left there.

108 posted on 10/23/2004 4:54:26 PM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: bert
Forshadowing the October suprise?

Very interesting. I thought the same thing.

Setting the stage?

109 posted on 10/24/2004 1:30:19 AM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: maine-iac7
Great post!

The old socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive institution in the country.

If they succeed in promoting this evil pretender into the Presidency this country will not survive.

Just think of the people Kerry will put in high places in his Kabinet and elsewhere!!!!

110 posted on 10/24/2004 1:35:29 AM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: Gibtx

That's music to my ears!


111 posted on 10/24/2004 6:11:25 AM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (God Bless America!)
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To: JATO

Someone out there knows about his dishonorable discharge. Why don't they come forward? A panel discussed it at the time. Where are they?


112 posted on 10/24/2004 6:29:20 AM PDT by Old anti feminist
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To: beyond the sea
his Kabinet ************

Just picked this up! LOL I refer to Komrad Kerry and his new U.S.S.A. - United States of Socialist America -

113 posted on 10/24/2004 9:30:50 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7
I refer to Komrad Kerry and his new U.S.S.A. - United States of Socialist America

I hear you........... here's hoping we don't have to deal with the sick b*stard after Nov. 2nd, or however long it takes to get all the lawyers out of our hair! This election will be most likely much worse than 2000, and I almost died then!

Thank God for Circuit Court Judge N. Sander Sauls in Leon County, Fla. He was the MAN.

114 posted on 10/24/2004 9:38:08 AM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: Gibtx

"it is much worse for him than you can image.."

Hey, you! You better not be teasing us. That wouldn't be very nice.

Seriesly, if this is really hugh, do we have to fear sHrilliary stepping in to run for him?


115 posted on 10/24/2004 10:10:08 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: beyond the sea
2000, and I almost died then! Thank God for Circuit Court Judge N. Sander Sauls in Leon County, Fla. He was the MAN.********

and upon such "horseshoe nails" has history often hung

116 posted on 10/24/2004 11:07:12 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: The Loan Arranger

bump


117 posted on 10/24/2004 11:07:49 AM PDT by VOA
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To: clyde260

i believe this will be self combustion but it may not get played... this is chess... and we have to have the timing and the opportunity..... we need to see their moves as well....

and who knows who will deliver what when.... there are some big players workin this....

my opinion ......


118 posted on 10/24/2004 12:45:31 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: clyde260

careful now, we don't want to stune any beeber before its time...


119 posted on 10/24/2004 6:13:07 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (Jean Fraud Kerry-the Botox BoatWarrior,"oh no, aground again and huge riceberg approaching")
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To: The Loan Arranger

Detailed analysis of Kerry discharge now online at

http://www.vetsforbush.net/kerry-oth-discharge.pdf


120 posted on 11/01/2004 1:10:35 AM PST by mindwest
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