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Gertz Says Russians Did Remove Weapons
The Washington Times ^ | 10/28/04 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 10/28/2004 7:29:47 PM PDT by tomahawk

On Great (Fox News), Bill Gertz said he is coming out with an article that U.S. intelligence stands behind assessment that the Russian GRU moved weapons out of Iraq in the time leading up to the war.

He also said it would take weeks for the story to develop.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; ammogate; billgertz; explosives; gertz; gerz; iraq; napalminthemorning; russia; wot
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Last nights Financial Times article:

Russians ‘may have taken Iraq explosives’

41 posted on 10/28/2004 8:24:22 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Strategerist; Boot Hill

See the link at #41.....Not Gertz!!


42 posted on 10/28/2004 8:27:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: oceanview
Can a Freedom of Info request be done on satellite imagery?
43 posted on 10/28/2004 8:29:27 PM PDT by endthematrix (10 out of 10 terrorists agree-Anybody but Bush!)
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To: Strategerist
Eventually I think his star will fade once it sinks in basically none of his exciting stories pan out or get corroborated.

I was just thinking the same thing. Can anyone remember a Gertz article that actualy led to anything except 12 hours of excitement on FR?

This guy's going to end up working at Newsmax.

44 posted on 10/28/2004 8:30:07 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: Boot Hill

"If one of those with inside knowledge happens also to be opposed to Bush's foreign policy, especially the GWOT, or else someone who still carries around a grudge for the GRU (old Soviet military intelligence), then the facts will leak. I can think of at least two elements within the CIA that fit that description. "

Good observation. Goertz obviously got his info from someone who wants to cause trouble for Bush. And considering that Putin is supporting Bush, this would hurt him as well -- he won't be happy if Kerry gets elected.


45 posted on 10/28/2004 8:48:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion (GET OUT THE VOTE. ENSURE A BUSH/CHENEY WIN.)
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To: skip_intro
I was just thinking the same thing. Can anyone remember a Gertz article that actualy led to anything except 12 hours of excitement on FR?

Wasn't it Gertz who gave us the 25 Chechen's with backpacks crossing from Mexico?

46 posted on 10/28/2004 8:48:20 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tomahawk

Why would America leave the security of it's country up to the United Nations? All members in Congress and the Senate are killing Americans by supporting the United Nations.
TREASON


47 posted on 10/28/2004 9:07:14 PM PDT by watchout
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To: FairOpinion

Very interesting...good theory as we are mvong in on Iraq, Putin hedges his bets and moves the weapons.


48 posted on 10/28/2004 9:13:55 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Lola---the patriotic part-shepherd dog --wants FOUR MORE YEARS!)
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To: FairOpinion
I heard Gertz on the Savage radio show and he claimed that he felt Russia was part of the `axis of evil'. Thus, I do not think his information is indicative of Russia helping us.
49 posted on 10/28/2004 9:44:37 PM PDT by MontanaMatt (Take out Iran while you can! http://www.gogindex.org/news.html)
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To: MontanaMatt

Gertz may not have been thinking about it from this angle.


50 posted on 10/28/2004 9:47:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (GET OUT THE VOTE. ENSURE A BUSH/CHENEY WIN.)
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To: tomahawk; rodguy911; SlowBoat407; Paul Atreides; elizabetty; alicek09; FairOpinion; Poincare; ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1261017/posts

News Analysis by TWD's Editor, Shane Cory.

Missing Weapons? Blame the Russians

October 28, 2004 09:43 AM

The Washington Times dropped to the bottom of the integrity scale by leading with a story that definitively blamed the loss of hundreds of tons of high explosives (HE) on the Russian military. Their story was based mainly on the views of one controversial Pentagon staffer, John A. "Jack" Shaw.

Earlier this year Shaw was reportedly involved in a controversy involving the former Iraqi golden boy and now criminal, Ahmed Chalabi. The scandal involved the awarding of cell phone contracts to three companies with close ties to Chalibi. According to the L.A. Times, he was put under investigation by the FBI.

From reports of Shaw, it would seem that this government employee runs fast and loose. When investigating a contracting matter, he allegedly was refused entry into Iraq and then dressed up as a Halliburton employee in order to gain entry into the country.

51 posted on 10/28/2004 10:26:56 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Gertz sunk to new lows? I have been reading Gertz for years. If anything he deadpans his stories. It is you who have sunk to new lows. Are you Russian?


52 posted on 10/28/2004 10:39:10 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: rodguy911

"Never ever trust the Ruskies."

Almost sounds like Don't Tread On Me. Keep up the good work!!!


53 posted on 10/28/2004 10:42:39 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource
Not a Slavic DNA cell in my body.

Do you trust the source. Gertz's one and only source for this story is a man under investigation by the FBI. If a Democratic operative based a story on specualtion based on hearsay from someone under FBI investigation we would be outraged.

My theory? I think this is being done to hurt President Bush by certain groups allied to Chalabi who don't like the relationship Bush has with Putin.

54 posted on 10/28/2004 10:43:27 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

"My theory? I think this is being done to hurt President Bush by certain groups allied to Chalabi who don't like the relationship Bush has with Putin."

My theory? I think this story is being put out by patriotic American intel. officials who are sick of Russia getting away with undermining American interests.


55 posted on 10/28/2004 10:47:29 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Officials? Shaw is the only official. Under FBI investigation.


56 posted on 10/28/2004 10:49:03 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: FairOpinion; maine-iac7


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1259467/posts?page=893#870

maine-iac7 has a similar take


57 posted on 10/28/2004 10:51:34 PM PDT by YummiBox
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To: Destro

"Officials? Shaw is the only official. Under FBI investigation."

I just heard Gertz being interviewed on Savage. He has more sources than Shaw. You might want to look into this matter a little further before spinning this in Russia's favor.


58 posted on 10/28/2004 10:53:52 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: FairOpinion

Suppose Vladmir Putin is really Santa Claus and wants to give us all candy like so many FReepers seem to believe.


59 posted on 10/28/2004 10:55:10 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Bush did not lead this country into an unjust war; Kerry led this country out of a just war.)
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To: TapTheSource

So far his ace source is Shaw. Let us hope his next sources - if they come out - are more reliable.


60 posted on 10/28/2004 10:56:05 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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