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Socialism: The Left's Fundamental Problem (VANITY)
November 3, 2004 | Windcatcher

Posted on 11/03/2004 8:26:52 PM PST by Windcatcher

Due to the late night last night, I took the day off and I've been watching the election post-mortem as many of us may have. The Left have been wringing their hands, analyzing Kerry's campaign from birth to death, and asking the inevitable question: "Where did John Kerry go wrong?" The excuses run the usual gamut: "Karl Rove got the vote out", "It was crazy Bible-thumping Evangelicals", "The Massachusetts Supreme Court lost it for Kerry", and so on. While the gay marriage issue probably had a hand in turnout, they still appear to be terminally afflicted with the central denial that has kept them out of any real power for the last ten years (I don't count a lame-duck Clinton as having any real power). There is one overriding theme that they simply refuse to accept:

WE DON'T WANT SOCIALISM.

Full stop. This is so important and fundamental to the Conservative identity that it bears repeating, slowly and loudly.

WE - DON'T - WANT - SOCIALISM!!!

I realize that no "reputable" Democrat hasn't actually mentioned the S-word. It doesn't matter. I assure our citizens on the Left that we've gotten the memo, that we understand that "Progressive" is the current code-word for Socialism. Truly, we get it. "Progressive" equals "Socialism". We *do not* want it.

I am speaking to the Left now. No matter how you repackage it, we will refuse to accept it. If the "Visionary" memo goes out and that becomes the new term for "Socialism", we will still vote down anyone who tries to push it upon us. Hillary tried this with her "Hillarycare" proposal in 1993, and we took the US Congress away from you. We did it because, and I'll say it again, WE DO NOT WANT TO LIVE UNDER SOCIALISM! We know what Socialism is; there are countless examples of countries that utilize it to varying degrees in different parts of the world, and we have consciously decided that we do not want to live under such a system. You can attempt to repackage it any way you want: no term, no turn of the phrase, no race-baiting language, nor any other greed-inducing or emotionally-charged diatribe will sway us. We know it for what it is, and we will refuse it every time.

I am sure that some among the Left will still be in denial even after I've said this. I know, we "just don't get it." We're uneducated, hyper-religious, Bible-thumping zealots. I assure you that we are not. We are educated, we are professionals, and we have real lives. Urban music or culture might not be our cup of tea, but ignorant yokels we are not. We are capable of studying a socioeconomic construct like Socialism and passing judgment upon it -- and we have decided that it is not for us. If you want Socialism so badly, I suggest moving to Canada. They have apparently decided differently, and you will almost certainly gain your wish. However, as long as we Conservatives draw breath, we shall not submit to such a system. In fact, your decades-long insistence on imposing it upon us has convinced most of us that you will not give this up anytime soon, and we therefore mustn't trust you with power. Don't expect any support from us in "flyover country" (or even those of us not in flyover country -- I am writing this a mere fifteen minutes from Philadelphia International Airport).

Make no mistake: Christianity does enter into this for some of us. One of the Ten Commandments says, "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods." Believe it or not, we are actually capable of comprehending the written word, and we understand what this simple statement means in practice. It is *morally wrong* to feel jealous of those who have more than us, even if we don't lift a finger to take from them. Socialism turns this upon its head: under such a system no one is allowed to have more than someone else, and the State has the authority to correct a material imbalance. So in that sense, while many of us base our judgment of Socialism purely on the basis that we don't want to live under it, for many of us it is also a moral decision. I understand that the Left doesn't believe in moral decisions, but make no mistake -- we do, and we won't give up our right to form our own morality without a fierce fight. Once again may I suggest Canada. It is lightly populated, and I am confident that legions of American Left could take it over easily.


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There have been numerous prognostications regarding the reaction of the Democratic Party, but from what I'm seeing, the Democrats are in utter denial. Perhaps they might try to put forth a centrist "figurehead" as a bait-and-switch tactic to try to get their Socialist agenda a foothold, but at this point the pundits don't appear to have grasped the central point: they believe in and want Socialism, and we do not. Until they realize this impasse they shouldn't expect to win us over. Perhaps they feel that they can snooker enough people at the edges with misdirection, but like a vampire afraid to look in the mirror, they just won't face facts.
1 posted on 11/03/2004 8:26:52 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: Windcatcher

Their wild-eyed anti-Americanism doesn't help either.


2 posted on 11/03/2004 8:34:14 PM PST by sbelew
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To: Windcatcher
My theory on Democrats fatal flaw:

They believe Religion, National Defense and Tax Cuts are evil.

That defines a permanent minority position. We see through every facade they erect.

3 posted on 11/03/2004 8:35:16 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Freedom Costs a Buck-Oh-Five!)
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To: Windcatcher

Beautiful, simply beautiful. Shine the light of day upon the socialists and communists. Leave us be. That's really all we want, just leave us alone,let us buy whatever it is you make and join us in peace. No country has had the strength of America, and no country has been so selective in the use of their might. The left seems to think that if they keep trying their failed socio-economic policies, they are bound to get it right sooner or later. That's fine with us too, just don't try them here. Canada is a great idea, take Michael Moore with you. We've had enough of the mad cow.


4 posted on 11/03/2004 8:41:11 PM PST by kj123 (kajando.blogspot.com)
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They will not relent, they will continue until they leave only one choice. I believe Patrick Henry comes to mind here.


5 posted on 11/03/2004 8:43:52 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Windcatcher

INTREP


6 posted on 11/03/2004 8:45:05 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: Windcatcher

and socialism, communism and fascism are just different levels of tyranny.


7 posted on 11/03/2004 8:45:27 PM PST by GeronL (Congratulations Bush on your re-election VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Windcatcher

"Due to the late night last night, I took the day off"

Me too, since when I woke up it was 9am and then one second later, when I got up, it was 10!


8 posted on 11/03/2004 8:45:50 PM PST by jocon307 (Don't let Australia down: Re-elect President Bush! (YAY! W WON!))
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To: Windcatcher

Perhaps if the scream and shout louder, engage in more vicious name calling, make more heinous threats, and just generally hate me more they'll convince me that their moral conviction to compassion and tolerance is the correct path. They're off to a really good start so far.


9 posted on 11/03/2004 8:49:19 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Windcatcher
Very well said. We have had a free-market, low regulation, non-socialist country here for our entire 230 year history, and it KICKS ASS! When people want to start changing it to resemble other countries that we are outperforming in every way that matters to us we act to put a stop to it.
10 posted on 11/03/2004 8:52:27 PM PST by spinestein ("We have to go by our own rules, we'd rather be last than be wrong" by Dan Rather)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Damn, I love our new foreign policy. And so do 58 million other Americans.


11 posted on 11/03/2004 8:56:16 PM PST by kj123 (kajando.blogspot.com)
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To: kj123

I'm agnostic, and all I can say to this entire thread is, "Amen."


12 posted on 11/03/2004 9:17:56 PM PST by Steve (L / MA)
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To: spinestein

Very well said. We have had a free-market, low regulation, non-socialist country here for our entire 230 year history

Would that that were only true, in fact we already are much too far down the road to totalitarian government. I used to joke that soon we would need government permission to go to the bathroom until someone reminded me that, in effect, we already do since the federal government mandates what kind of toilet can be put in a house. Many Americans are unaware of the bulk of government interference but let me assure you that if you ever arouse the interest of law enforcement they can very quickly find a law you have broken.


13 posted on 11/03/2004 9:37:15 PM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: Windcatcher
AMEN!

Check out their goals at:

 http://www.dsausa.org/pdf/widemsoc.pdf

14 posted on 11/03/2004 9:39:46 PM PST by trueamerica
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To: sbelew
[ Socialism: The Left's Fundamental Problem ]

Democracy equals socialism... Democrats are for democracy.. Where you have a democracy you have socialism... The U.S. USED to be republic... EXPOSE democracy(mob rule) NOT socialism.. The root of socialism is democracy...

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.~Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

15 posted on 11/03/2004 9:44:53 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Windcatcher

"... they might try to put forth a centrist "figurehead" as a bait-and-switch tactic to try to get their Socialist agenda..."

"flip" John Kerry was the Trojan Horse containing the "flop" John Kerry the rabid "New Soldier" Marxist with his deepest sympathies in Maoist/Ho Chi Ming Communism. His "nuances" were deceptive ploys to not disclose his true contents.


16 posted on 11/03/2004 9:52:33 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance
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To: RipSawyer
That's interesting that you brought up government regulation of our toilets since just a few days ago my co-worker made an observation about that very thing.

He said that only in America can you eat a McGriddle Sandwich for breakfast, with eggs, sausage and cheese wrapped in pancakes with the syrup baked in. Then stuff yourself full for lunch and dinner with enormous helpings of everything and all for just a few dollars, and still find time to snack in-between. But in the evening, when it's time to eliminate the end product of all this, the government requires we do so with A PINT OF WATER!

I agree there is too much governmentin' goin' on. (congressional voice impersonated)
17 posted on 11/03/2004 9:57:07 PM PST by spinestein ("We have to go by our own rules, we'd rather be last than be wrong" by Dan Rather)
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To: hosepipe

Well said. We're really a representative republic, not a democracy. The Socialist, er, excuse me, DemocRATic knows this and is trying to implement it upon us. But Foxnews, the internet and talk radio will have something to say about it.


18 posted on 11/03/2004 9:59:16 PM PST by Daner313 (Bush has crushed Monsieur Kerry!! OUI! OUI!)
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To: Windcatcher

Oh my, you used the "S" word. That just isn't cricket. /sarcasm


19 posted on 11/04/2004 2:57:40 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Daner313; nunya bidness
We're really a representative republic, not a democracy.
I'm glad that more are starting to make this distinction.
But Foxnews, the internet and talk radio will have something to say about it.
OH, PLEASE! Rush has called himself "The Doctor of Democracy".
The distinction between a Republic and a Democracy as a form of government is so important and so profound that it can never be overstated while there is one American left who cannot distinguish between the two. If this article encourages even one American to consider the incredibly important differences between a Republic and a Democracy, as well as how crucial it is for Americans not to exchange one for the other, it will have been worthwhile.
As for Fox News I've heard a few of them use the word republic only a handful of times.
The only place I see this getting corrected is on the Internet and that by persistent people like myself and others, even if I sometimes act the ass while doing so. (just call me uncouth)
Dream on if you think Fox or talk radio are going to do the job.

The distinction between a Republic and a Democracy as a form of government is so important and so profound that it can never be overstated while there is one American left who cannot distinguish between the two.

20 posted on 11/04/2004 3:15:27 AM PST by philman_36
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