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1 posted on 11/04/2004 7:39:21 PM PST by mlstier
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To: mlstier

Staten Island voted RED


2 posted on 11/04/2004 7:40:58 PM PST by WilDave
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To: mlstier

Exactly. The same is true in California.

It is all about the handouts in the urban areas. Cut those off forever and the democrat hacks would lose most, if not all, of their voting base.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 7:41:06 PM PST by BenLurkin
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Tax the red. Redistribute to the blue.


4 posted on 11/04/2004 7:41:16 PM PST by watchinginawe ("I AM THAT I AM."...God)
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The Buffalo, Rochester, and Albany areas also voted Kerry.


5 posted on 11/04/2004 7:41:50 PM PST by jude24 (sola gratia)
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Why do people skirt around the obvious????


8 posted on 11/04/2004 7:43:22 PM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: mlstier

Very interesting. Thanks for doing the numbers.

What amazes me, is that after 9-11 happened right in NYC, those same people wanted Kerry by such huge margin.

Just unbelievable!


10 posted on 11/04/2004 7:43:54 PM PST by FairOpinion (Thank You Swifties and Vets for Fighting for your Country and Defeating the Enemy Again.)
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A good start to reclaiming may be to defund Urban Mass Transit. Think of what this subsidizes. Let 'em pay for it themselves.

This is a reversal for me.

11 posted on 11/04/2004 7:44:28 PM PST by drc43 (John Kerry - Best when gone)
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Here you go
13 posted on 11/04/2004 7:46:04 PM PST by edwin hubble
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My state is split about 50-50 population upstate-downstate.When you add in Albany it is nearly impossible to overcome the dem advantage.The urban areas are the breeding ground for government dependence.It has passed through so many generations now since Roosevelt that there is no stigma about being on public assistence,it is the normal way of life.The dems can only achieve their master plan when the masses can be easily herded towards dependent poverty and carried to the voting booth.


14 posted on 11/04/2004 7:48:00 PM PST by carlr
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You are right on target. Urbanization breeds dependance on government for infrastructure. Therefore, socialist like Kerry gain from the fear of being left without a government umbrella.


15 posted on 11/04/2004 7:48:26 PM PST by SolidRedState (Free Martha)
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Well all I know is I got what I wanted. Bush won, so we're less likely to be hit by terrorists. If we are hit, I live in one of the states bin laden promised not to hit, because kerry took our state. My county went to Bush, so the people I come in contact with are rational Americans. It doesn't get much better than that. LOL


16 posted on 11/04/2004 7:50:20 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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ya think?


17 posted on 11/04/2004 7:50:27 PM PST by jungleboy
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If you go by area then NY is definitely a red state. Most of NY north and of Westchester is solidly Republican. Westchester and Long Island will switch around. The problem is NYC.

In order to take NY you have to take NYC. A good portion of NYC is of the "What can i get out of government" mindset and the "I'm a victim" mentality that has been sown by race baiters like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Rangel etc...who's race baiting makes *everyone* think they are a victim of *something* whether they are or not.

When people think the government should be doing stuff for them, they will vote Dem. IMO, In order to get around that someone needs to have already done something for them before the polls open.

Rudy Giuliani has done that. He basically cut crime down from the "Escape from New York" levels of the Dinkins administration to the point where Times Square now looks more like Disneyworld than anything else.

Rudy / Kerik and the men and women of the NYPD did an amazing job with their broken windows theories of policework, and the people of NYC know it.

Of course, he also was *THE MAN* after 9/11. This needs no further explanation.

Rudy can carry NYC. I can't see how anyone else on the Republican side of the ball could pull it off.


20 posted on 11/04/2004 7:51:55 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Vote or P. Diddy will kill you !)
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My county in NY went for Bush...twice!


22 posted on 11/04/2004 7:54:14 PM PST by GiveEmDubya (MANDATE)
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Ah! Grasshopper. You have had an epiphany...and so you have revealed the master plan for 2008.

The results from Ohio and Florida were obtained by thinking and deploying on a micro basis,one county at a time. Start looking at other states and you will see the same picture set.

Now that you are in posession of the master plan, you will have to devour your monitor to avoid it falling into the wrong hands!ROFL.


23 posted on 11/04/2004 7:54:36 PM PST by ijcr (Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ability.)
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Not all of Nassau is Blue.

I'm from southern Nassau, and we have a strong and recognizable Republican congressman, Peter King, who is chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, and an avid pro-life Republican.


25 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:59 PM PST by kfowler1 (Watts for America '08.)
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This is true all around the country. County by county this was a geographical landslide in a big way. As I see in some posts here, no one in the MSM has the courage to say the truth. The only areas that go overwhelmingly democrat is the areas where people rely on government handouts the most. I looked at a town by town map of Long Island and without putting an overlay over it I could name the towns that were red.


28 posted on 11/04/2004 7:59:02 PM PST by Sparky760 (The sleeping Giant has been awakened)
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Maybe we should grant the MOBYs their wish and turn NYC, PHILADELPHIA, Baltimore, Los Angeles, San Francisco etc into City States and let them secede. BUT, they get no Federal subsidies of any sort - if they want to go it alone they must be totally cut loose.
29 posted on 11/04/2004 7:59:32 PM PST by elizabetty
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Your numbers don't add up right, its a better picture really.

Manhattan/Queens/Brooklyn/Bronx/Westchester/Nassau/Suffolk
Bush 1,180,808, Kerry 2,406,576, Nader 44,959
Bush 32.5%, Kerry 66.3%

Upstate + Staten Island
Bush 1,599,942, Kerry 1,560,471, Nader 58,351
Bush 49.7%, Kerry 48.5%


31 posted on 11/04/2004 8:02:00 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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BTTT


33 posted on 11/04/2004 8:02:17 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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