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The Incredibles has a Character Who Looks Like John Kerry
November 5, 2004 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 11/05/2004 11:13:26 PM PST by AJFavish

For those who have seen the new terrific movie "The Incredibles" did you notice that one of the villians looks like John Kerry and speaks French? Am I mistaken?


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KEYWORDS: incredibles; johnkerry; moviereview
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To: Hodar

Directed by Brad Bird who did Iron Giant, one of my all time favorite movies. Again, great message. If you haven't seen it, no matter what your age, it's a real treat.


21 posted on 11/06/2004 7:07:12 PM PST by vharlow
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To: AJFavish

I wouldn't see anything from the Iron Giant guy. That movie was a critique of "Red Scare paranoia," and was anti-gun and -military to boot.


22 posted on 11/06/2004 7:09:46 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I agree. The line about "they will hurt children" really jumped out at me. Discussing this movie is a perfect way to address WOT issues with children in a non-frightening way. Even Syndrome's start (being slighted and hurt by Mr. Incredible) has parallels to OBL's rise. The extent to which he goes off the deep end is in no way justified by the perceived injustice.

There were also some non-PC lines in there too: "Saying everybody is special is like saying nobody is special."

Saw it with my fiancee tonight. Fantastic movie, I highly recommend it.


23 posted on 11/06/2004 10:56:16 PM PST by speelurker
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To: Hodar

Not only is there a French villain in the film towards the start but later on in the film there is a very subtle pro-life message that I caught, coming from Mirage - the platinum haired minx working for Synapse. She says something along the lines of "I don't think wanting to protect life is a flaw" or something to that end. It really struck me in a positive way. Normally when I see movies I'm geared to notice any leftist jackassery thrown in - I wasn't expecting something that almost sounded pro-life.


24 posted on 11/07/2004 12:16:09 PM PST by GeorgeBerryman
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To: celano

Just saw it this morning with our sons, fantastic movie. One of the best I've seen in a LOOONG time. Can't wait for the DVD.


25 posted on 11/07/2004 1:25:21 PM PST by Mama Shawna
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To: Hodar

I saw this movie and it was great... I might go see it again and definitly get it on DVD


26 posted on 11/07/2004 7:31:59 PM PST by todd1
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To: Dallas59
This is a wonderful film that my 7 and 11 year-olds absolutely loved. I was stunned while watching it to realize that this Disney product is in fact a subtily conservative film.

Brad Bird, who has worked in a minor way on somewhat conservative shows such as King of the Hill, The Critic, The Simpsons, had his last directors gig five years ago in the excellent Iron Giant. In am a huge fan of that movie and can not understand why its brilliant director had not been given another film until now. While the book is very much the product of a liberal hand, the movie lavishes great loving attention on its visuals that include all kinds of weapons, rockets, and death rays that reached a gorgeous level of realism I have not seen in other animated films. The creative crew clearly had an affinity for this sort of military gadgetry in a way that reminds me much more of a Clancy than a Spielberg. The film's bad guy was a slick cowardly bureaucrat rather than the film's actual military figures who are far more favorably portrayed. The film also has a very strong pro-family and pro-character theme.

As noted by others, The Increadibles includes good-guy cameo's by a character who is something of a cross between Richard Nixon and Abe Vigoda (Fish, Sally Tessio in the Godfather). It also has another good-guy lookalike of George H.W. Bush in a very minor part. It has distinctively pro-life, pro-family and anti-trial lawyer, anti-PC themes. This is definitely a subversively conservative film. Pixar's frictions with the agressively liberal Disney may have helped to encourage Bird and others to have taken this film in a direction not seen since at that company Walt passed away.

To put icing on it, many liberals seem to instinctively be repelled by this film. For instance, here is the posting from IMDB.com of a rather snotty and self impressed gal who gives as her dateline: "college (a very good one)":

While I loved the humor and animation of the film, is it possible that I'm the only one who noted the hidden pro-America/war-on-terror messages within its plot? >
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Then we see ElastiGirl proclaim "I'm not going to settle down. And leave saving the world to men? Yeah right!" And then shortly after we see her as the domestic house wife, not only unemployed (unlike her husband), but even opposed to the idea of employment (or reliving the glory days).
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The villains of the film are described as abnormal and beyond the caliber of any evils the Supers have dealt with before. The mother even delivers the frightening line, "They won't hesitate to kill you" to her children. At one point the villain even mentions "selling [his] weapons to other countries." And creating a world in which no Supers (superpowers, anyone?) exist, and thus everyone is super (the commie!).
And according to the film's portrayal of what is obviously New York City, Samuel L. Jackson appears to be the only person of color who lives in Manhattan.

Overall, the film is an entertaining, funny, and an enjoyable adventure. And though some would discredit my observations as conspiracy theory or liberal spin, it is impossible for a intellectual to ignore the (intentional or unintentional) pro-America, pro-war-on-terror, anti-French, anti-gay, pro-WASP-nuclear-family bias that is subtly injected into this film.

This effete "intellectual"'s review would have been enough to make me want to see this film.

27 posted on 11/07/2004 7:39:17 PM PST by Jeff F
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To: Hodar

I laughed hard and often with this movie. I loved the banter between the wife and husband when he was driving on the freeway. That was a real winner. Definitely, have to buy this one.


28 posted on 11/07/2004 8:18:14 PM PST by discipler
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To: Jeff F
the (intentional or unintentional) pro-America, pro-war-on-terror, anti-French, anti-gay, pro-WASP-nuclear-family bias that is subtly injected into this film

Most of the items on this list are based on interpretations of things that are actually in the film, but darned if I can see where "anti-gay" came from. (I can only assume that it came out more or less automatically, by force of habit, as part of the standard package of liberal complaints.)

29 posted on 11/08/2004 9:21:52 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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LOL!
That's no coincidence!


30 posted on 11/08/2004 9:22:36 AM PST by Legion04
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To: Dallas59

ROTF!!!! Good gad, he really does look like Lurch!


31 posted on 11/08/2004 9:22:43 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: steve-b
...pro-America (Check), pro-war-on-terror (Check), anti-French (Check, Check), anti-gay (only in her angst ridden mind), pro-WASP-nuclear-family bias (what makes a nuclear family just a WASP thing, but anyway -- Check) ...

Hmmmm, what's not to like here?

32 posted on 11/08/2004 7:29:16 PM PST by Jeff F
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To: Jeff F
Overall, the film is an entertaining, funny, and an enjoyable adventure. And though some would discredit my observations as conspiracy theory or liberal spin, it is impossible for a intellectual to ignore the (intentional or unintentional) pro-America, pro-war-on-terror, anti-French, anti-gay, pro-WASP-nuclear-family bias that is subtly injected into this film.

This person is such an intellectual that she cannot place the correct "an" in front of a word beginning with a vowel.

33 posted on 11/12/2004 6:06:13 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Bommer
Eh, Iron Giant was a bit preachy on the anti-gun tip. But a cool story otherwise. Reminded me of this album cover...


34 posted on 11/14/2004 3:43:03 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Product registration is for sissies.)
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To: discipler
I loved the banter between the wife and husband when he was driving on the freeway.

You call that driving? LOL!! ; )

35 posted on 11/14/2004 3:49:29 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Product registration is for sissies.)
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To: Hodar
Great, really fantastic movie

Agree totally, good character development for cartoons. My kids and I saw it on Friday and I'm taking my husband this coming weekend.

36 posted on 11/14/2004 4:06:18 AM PST by Diva
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To: txkev
But does the character have three purple hearts and shrapnel rice in his a$$?
37 posted on 11/14/2004 4:13:46 AM PST by jslade (People who are easily offended......OFFEND ME!)
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