Muslim population of the USA?

[BritishBulldog]

I was wondering how many muslims live in America and how quickly the population there is growing?

I was recently surprised to read that here in the UK, under two percent of the population is Muslim (I thought it was much higher). France, I understand has about 5% presently (but it is growing quickly)

I was wondering how many Muslims lived in the USA and how the population there is growing?

Also, in the UK, I am starting to notice that Muslims are starting to assimilate into society a bit more (while still maintaining there own customs & traditions). The Jews and the Hindus have done this more successfully and quickly but I have noticed (first hand) that many Moslems are becoming more Anglicised. I wondered if anyone has noticed the same thing in the US?

(NB, This is not a wind-up thread, I am genuinely interested)

[theDentist]

And how many of them came to it thru incarceration?

[twigs]

I don't know. But I have read that there are more Muslims than Jews here.

[Max Combined]

"I was wondering how many muslims live in America and how quickly the population there is growing?"

Too many and too fast.

[joesnuffy]

How many does it take to bring down an office tower?

[Dallas59]

Because the U. S. Census does not collect information on religious affiliation of residents in the nation, there are no exact figures on the number of Muslims in the country. According to a national poll conducted in 2001, known as the American Religious Identity Survey, approximately 1,104,000 adult Muslims reside in the United States.

National Muslim organizations put the total number of all Muslims in the nation at about seven million, based on a survey that determined that two million Muslims regularly attend weekly Friday prayer services, and stipulated that the majority of Muslims do not attend such services.

The 2000 Britannica Book of the Year estimate for 2000 states the number as 4,132,000. Whatever the exact number, the Muslim population in North America is characterized by its diversity.

Some 80 nations are represented in the mosque communities of the United States, including a variety of traditions, practices, doctrines, and beliefs. Approximately 24 percent of American Muslims are African Americans according to the American Muslim Council’s Zogby poll conducted in 2000.

[BritishBulldog]

"I don't know. But I have read that there are more Muslims than Jews here."

Same here, which astonished me. Apparantly there are only about 350,000 Jews in the UK.

I seem to know about half of them!

[trashcanbred]

Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%, other 10%, none 10% (2002 est.)

From CIA World Factbook

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html

[Baynative]

During the Homeland Security discussions I heard a comment that sleeper cells and militant Muslims here could number over 10,000.

...and they want you and your children DEAD!

[Baynative]

[thoughtomator]

The ideal number of Muslims in a free USA is zero.

[tallhappy]

Most likely what you cite includes Nation of Islam -- which is cooking the books.

[SheLion]

Funny you should ask. The following map is two years old and more Mosque's have sprung up across the United States since then:

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Huntsville, Texas is where most of the prisons in Texas are located. There are no mosques here but we support Moslems preachers with tax money to corrupt the prisoners.
They go after the ones that are most violent.

[ronnied]

a sheet over an arab, muslim?

[BritishBulldog]

"During the Homeland Security discussions I heard a comment that sleeper cells and militant Muslims here could number over 10,000.
...and they want you and your children DEAD!"

What I find concerning is that, if you take the world population of Moslems at about 1 billion (which is probably low). Assume that most of them are peace loving people who just want to get on with their lives but that 1 in 1000 is a fundamentalist nutter, that gives you one million fundamentalist nutters.

Then if you assume that 10% of those nutters have whatever it takes to become terrorists rather than just rabble, they could, at least in theory, raise an army of 100,000 fruit cakes all seeking death in the name of God.

Scary.

[SheLion]

There are over 1,200 Somali's in southern Maine alone. Gov Baldacci and Rep. Tom Allen both Rats, brought them into this state. Most are on welfare.

[Anticommie]

According to a national poll conducted in 2001, known as the American Religious Identity Survey, approximately 1,104,000 adult Muslims reside in the United States.

1,104,000 too many.

[vox humana]

National Muslim organizations put the total number of all Muslims in the nation at about seven million.

How many are legal residents?

[SheLion]

And thousands are crossing the border every NIGHT and they aren't all Mexican's. The Border Patrol finds the prayers rugs and the book of the Karan a lot, that is dropped in haste to get into the United States.

I saw a documentary on Fox News about this last year. These people HAVE to be going somewhere and what better shelter then a United States based Mosque?

[xJones]

I was wondering how many Muslims lived in the USA and how the population there is growing?

That depends on whose numbers you're reading. Here's one good summary of the situation: Muslim in the U.S.A..

"POPULATION FIGURES

It is very difficult to estimate the precise number of Muslims currently living in the United States. Muslims tend to put the number somewhat higher than non-Muslim scholars and demographers; the estimated figures range widely - from around two million in one study to as many as seven million. There are several reasons for the varying estimates. First, because the U.S. Constitution mandates a separation of church and state that is reflected in American law, U.S. Census Bureau survey forms do not ask recipients about their religion. Neither does the U.S. Immigration Service collect information on the religion of immigrants. Many mosques in the United States do not have formal membership policies, and they seldom keep accurate attendance figures. In the words of University of Chicago religion scholar Martin Marty, "Counting noses has come to depend on two sources. One source is poll-takers calling during the dinner hour to ask, `What is your religious preference?' The other source is religious leaders, on both the local and the national scene. People who respond to telephone interviewers may have all kinds of motives for declaring themselves as part of this or that group, or no group at all. And people who report on the size of their congregations, denominations, and cohorts also have a variety of motives." The end result is that there is no official count of Muslims in the United States nor is there a number that is commonly accepted by all who have studied the question."

Muslim groups, probably inflating their numbers, will claim 8 million+, while other estimates go as low 2 million.

[ronnied]

what plans are in effect to defend yourselfs without guns?
something to think about, hmmmm

[rang1995]

too many

[OXENinFLA]

Muslims put up a poster on the Finsbury Park Mosque, North London, before a conference organised by militant groups on "September 11th, the lessons, benefit and harm," on Wednesday.

[expatpat]

I don't know how many, but you may be interested in this: most Arabs in the US are Christian -- and most Muslims here are probably blacks (tho' that's a guess).

[OXENinFLA]

ISLAM MAY BECOME THE
GREATEST MURDERING FORCE
IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND
Islam has replaced the Soviet Union as the Evil Empire
and its "best days" may lie ahead as the forces of Islam gather steam!!!

First the Saturday People... (click link)

The Muslims have a saying: "First [destroy] the Saturday People (Jews)... then the Sunday People (Christians)."  And when the Muslims tire of killing or converting non-Muslims, they go after other Muslims!  The ten-year Iran-Iraq War resulting in  the deaths of over one million deserving Muslims was said to have been fought over a land dispute.  This is not entirely true for the underlying hatred between two conflicting views of Islam was the major spark that ignited this conflict.  

Most of the so-called "moderate" Arab nations are scared to death of radical Islamic movements for they represent a most real physical threat to their continued absolute rule.  For that reason alone, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait and all the other fictitious kingdoms throughout the Middle East gladly pay cash AND lip service to the most vicious of the Arab, Palestinian and Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists. The United States government, the State Department and other apologists may call them "friends" and "allies" but, in reality, they have nothing whatsoever in common with America.  They are theocratic, backward and share NONE of the democratic traditions so valued in the West. "Friends" and "allies?" Hardly!

ATTAINING "CRITICAL MASS"
Among every four humans in the world, one of them is Muslim.
Islam is now the second largest religious group in France, Great Britain and USA!

There is no point in beating around the bush. The fact is that Islam is a militant, intolerant, incendiary religion whose adherents, whenever they establish "critical mass" of about 10 percent of a given population, begin to foment violence, revolt and Jihad --- in essence, a declaration of war on Western Civilization. A World War Three!

Battleground Europe...
by 2020 Muslims will account for 10% of the overall population of Europe

Don't think that Islamic activity is confined only to the Third World. Today, Muslims invade civilized countries under the benign guise of immigration. Their influence in Europe is growing steadily and will continue to do so unopposed until the Europeans finally wake up, although it's hard to tell if they can do it in time to save themselves. In fact, immigration accounted for 89 percent of Europe’s population growth during the 1990s!  When Christian society was mighty, Muslim society was timid. Western Christian countries have lost their fervor. Many have acquired Muslim fifth columns, which they tolerate regardless of insults to the host countries. But now the Europeans are starting to panic. Their women cannot possibly reproduce as quickly as can fertile Muslim women!  In thirty years the Muslim population of Great Britain rose from 82,000 to two million.... a 25-fold increase... nearly one-half million Muslims in London alone!  This Islamic invasion is obviated by the sight of over one thousand mosques littering the British landscape.  Even London itself has become a main launching pad for much of the pro-Islamic, pro-Arab and pro-Palestinian Internet propaganda!  Over the past 20 years, say experts, Britain has become a headquarters for extremist Muslim clerics and a fertile recruitment ground for new followers. 

In 30 years the Muslim population of Great Britain rose from 82,000 to two million.

Finsbury Park Mosque in North London, a Base for Islamic Extremism

Muslims in Britain have made it clear that they have no intention of assimilating. Dr. Zaki Badwari, former Director of the Islamic Cultural Centre of London wrote, "A proselytizing religion [like Islam] cannot stand still. Islam endeavors to expand in Britain. It aims at bringing its message to all corners of the earth. It hopes that one day the whole of humanity will be one Muslim community, the Umma."  Britain operates as a strategic base for some of the most radical Islamic groups which preach hatred, incite to violence and recruit volunteers for terrorist activities. Britain now has one of the highest concentrations of closed-circuit TV cameras in Europe... nearly 1.5 million in operation! In late May 2001 the Brits were treated to their very own Muslim-Pakistani rioting!  There is something deservedly humorous that this should happen to the pro-Muslim Brits who waste no time dumping on Israel!  God Save the Queen!  For more on Radical Islam In the U.K. click HERE. To see a partial list of Islamic Groups infesting England click HERE. Click  HERE for more on how Muslims are transforming British society!

Two of Europe's most legally tolerant regions...namely, the Dutch-language areas around Europe's most important west coast harbors, Antwerp [Belgium] and Rotterdam [Netherlands]... as the main breeding ground for Muslim-fundamentalist terrorist groups. Osama bin Laden 's organization even runs shipping companies as fronts from Amsterdam.

Something rotten in Denmark? How about the 200,000 Muslim immigrants trying to dictate their anti-Israel, anti-America and anti-Western values upon 5 million Danes? Even though they represent only 4% of the population, the Muslims consume upwards of 40 percent of welfare spending. They also account for 65-75% of the country's convicted rapists... with almost all victims non-Muslim Danes! Demographers have predicted that in just 40 years, one out of every three Danes will be Muslim. At this point, we're sure the Danes wish it were their Jewish population which was growing faster than rabbits on a hot tin roof. Jews are almost always model citizens! But the Danish Jews only number 6,000.

Dateline Sweden: Cold temperatures have not discouraged Muslim immigration. One out of every 22 Swede are now Muslims and Islam is the nation's second largest religion. Of the nearly 9 million people in Sweden, 400,000 are Muslim, leading to a drastic increase in anti-Semitic acts against Sweden's 18,000 Jews. Say farewell to the stereotypical blue-eyed, blonde haired Swede. 

In Holland [aka The Netherlands], because of its total lack of anti-terrorism laws and its very high level of religious, cultural and judicial tolerance, Muslim-fundamentalist terrorist groups are allowed to thrive. The Muslims now number about 6% of the population. In 20 years' time the majority of Holland's under 18 year old children will be Muslim. In fact, 50 per cent of the newborns during the next twenty years will be Muslim! A finger in the dike won't work this time, folks! 

Two million Muslims have soaked into Germany; one million into Italy; 200,000 in Spain; 500,000 in Belgium...1/10th its entire population and 1/4 of Brussels, its capitol city. Half of all babies born in Belgium are now Muslims!  In total, 11,000,000 Muslims have saturated Western Europe! It now becomes clear just who is organizing and marching in Europe's anti-Israel and anti-American demonstrations! 

In Italy, 95% of all rapists are Muslims. Eighty-five percent of all murderers are Muslims. Ah, such a wonderful religion of peace! What does the Pope and the rest of the Vatican Church have to say about this? Nothing! And what will the ordinary Italian say when, in ten years, Muslims will be the majority in Italy!!!

France is faring no better. In 1945, there were 100,000 Muslims in France. A fifty fold increase since then now has them numbering  6 million out of a total population of 60 million!  In twenty years, one out of every five Frenchmen will be a Muslim! Another telling statistic is that although the Muslims are 10% of France's population, 60% of the country's prison population are Muslims! All the urban suburbs are steered by Moslem black African or Arabic gangs. One-fifth of all births in France are Muslims!  Mohammed is one of the most common names next to Pierre!  And Paris has the largest Arab community outside of the Middle East! This is a result of a lenient immigration policy, high Muslim birthrate and conversions. A very high proportion of French Muslims are in the underclass, that segment of the population that relies not so much on education and work as on welfare and predatory activities. In fact, over one thousand Muslim neighborhoods are under monitoring throughout France. Seven hundred of those Muslim neighborhoods are listed as "violent" and nearly 400 hundred are listed as "very violent." Violence ranges from rape (95% of rapists are Muslim), murder (85% of murderers are Muslim), theft and looting of cars (58% committed by Muslims) and street fighting to assault on teachers and civil servants. Periodic outbursts of large-scale unrest or rioting sometimes occur. And, most distressing, are the high numbers of assaults or rebellions against the police. As does England, one thousand mosques are said to operate in France. Oh, mon dieu, what is a Frenchman to do! Click HERE for an audio of what Frenchmen (and all other cowardly, appeasing Europeans) should do because "Buddies, you're next!" Also, check out "The Death of France."

There are 14 to 17 million Muslims now live within the European Union. If only a minuscule fraction of the growing Muslim fundamentalist population of Europe were to join bin Laden's holy warriors (or some of the many Arab/Muslim/Islamic terrorist groups), internal-security officers would confront nightmare scenarios! 

For more on "Islam's Immigrant Invasion of Europe" and sources of the above information, click HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE

ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

[iconoclast]

Approximately 24 percent of American Muslims are African Americans

I honestly believe this phenomena will go the way of Kwanzaa, bushy afros, and the Symbionese Liberation Army.

[ronnied]

dreamer,

[cyborg]

I doubt it, but at least none of the guys I talk to have a remote interest in overthrowing this government and blowing up people.

[tiamat]

I think the number is closer to the 2 million mark.

I saw an article on this JUST yesterday...if i can find it, i will link this thread to it.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I honestly believe this phenomena will go the way of Kwanzaa, bushy afros, and the Symbionese Liberation Army.

The biggest days of the NOI predated all these things by nearly a decade. And given the choice between the NOI and wahabbist nutballs, I'll take the guys in bowties anytime.

[cyborg]

same here!

[Baynative]

I've been thinking the same thing for a long time.

Prior to our election I used to tell 'undecided' friends to think of what it takes for this militancy to reach middle America. - NOT MUCH

Any "student or temporary worker" can get here on a plane with just a back pack of undies and essentials, then pick up their suicide vest at a local Mosque and head for the local mall or school.

[OK]

Black Muslims no doubt don't realize that their ancestors were made slaves by Islamic slave traders. Muhammad himself had a black slave that he called "Ship" because he could carry so much cargo when travelling.

[Ax]

Note from that map the major concentrations of moslems in OUR country in the Blue States?

[dangus]

Well, there is strong diagreement on this. Moslem sources say over 6M, but the problem is that they call anyone from an nation of Islam (submission) a Moslem whether or not they believe in Islam or even detest Moslems. Therefore, apparently many Iraqi, Lebanese, Syrian, and Egyptian refugees are counted as Moslems by Moslems, even though they are Christians who left to flee Islam.

Some estimates have been as low as 1M, or only 1 in 300 Americans. This seems too low to me. Although I see few head-covered Moslems even in a very dierse metro area, there must be a couple hundred thousand Islamic prisoners in America, no? And the Nation of Islam? And the Islamicist neighborhoods of NJ?

My guess is about 3M, but unfortunately the best anyone can do is guess.

[cyborg]

I notice that New York where I live has a lot. However, most of the muslims I come into contact with are the oddball Nation of Islam types, hebrew israelites who aren't muslims but might as well be,etc. Even muslims from other countries don't bother me, but that certainly didn't stop me from reporting a muslim man to the police for taking pictures of the train tracks inside Penn Station.

[SheLion]

I doubt it, but at least none of the guys I talk to have a remote interest in overthrowing this government and blowing up people.

I believe they are working from the inside to take our land over as their own. Not to panic anyone, but we have way too many in America. I am very suspicious.

[ijcr]

Islamic Organizations in Washington. DC
Masjids and Islamic Centers
American Fall Mosque
Emerson Masjid
Fazl Mosque
Hanafi Madhab Center
IMAAM
Islamic Affairs
Islamic Center Of Wash.
Islamic Supreme Council-Amer
Islamic World Forum
Jazal Mosque
Masjid Ahlul Qur'an wal Hadeeth
Masjid al qawiyy
Masjid Baitullah
Masjid of Ivy City
masjidush-shura
Muslim Students Association @ Georgetown University
Muslim Sunrise
Society Adherence To Sunnah
Sunrise Muslim Center
Tabligh
Washington Masjid
Islamic Organizations and Services
Acpa
ADC - National Office
ADC - Research Institute
Al - Fartah
Al-Ehsan Charitable Relief Organization
Al-Ehsan Relief Org
American Arab Affairs Council
American Educational Trust
American Lebanese League
AMERICAN MUSLIM COUNCIL
American Muslim Council
American Muslim Council
American Muslims for Global Peace and Justice
American Muslims for Jerusalem
American Near East Refugee Aid (ANERA)
American Task Force for Lebanon
American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Americans For Soviet Muslim
Arab American Institute
ARAB INFORMATION CENTER
Arabuter Magazine
Association of Arab American University Graduates
Association Of Latin American Muslims/sociedad Islamica Latino Americana
Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers
Center for Policy Analysis on Palestina
Council for Palestinian Restitution and Repatriation (CPRR)
Council Of Imams Of Washington
Council On American Islamic Relations (CAIR)
Council on Islamic Schools in North America (CISNA)
Dar Al-Islam Summer Teachers Institute
Dawah And Educational Center
Djibouti Embassy
EDUCATION FOR PEACE IN IRAQ
Egyptian Embassy
Foundation for Mideast Communication
Hariri Foundation
Iifso
Institute for Palestine Studies
International Islamic Chamber Of Commerce (IICC)
Iraqi Embassy
Islamic Affairs Programs
Islamic Community Mission
Islamic Information SVCS
Islamic Legal SPC COL Law American University
Islamic Students Organization
Islamic Supreme Council
Jammat'ul Jihad (dawah Among The Deaf)
Journal of Palestine Studies
MAS Freedom Foundation
Masjid Alqawiyy
More...
Add Here Muslim Owned Businesses
Al-Hawadeth
Al-Jism Al-Salim Massage Therapy Services
Foundation for Iranian Studies
Golden Eagle Travel
IMG
Law Office of Saeed Osman
New Pen Bond Publishers
Orient Foods
SAHIH MOTORS
The Middle East Institute
ZOHERY TOURS INT'L, INC.
Add Here Islamic Schools/Colleges
Islamic Institute
The Arabic Islamic Institute

Websites and breakdown by states and cities can be found at

http://www.islamicfinder.org/

[SheLion]

Note from that map the major concentrations of moslems in OUR country in the Blue States?

Of course. As soon as they come to America, the DemocRATS take them by the hand to register.

However, according to the map I provided, they are all OVER the US now.

[cyborg]

I'm more worried about the American liberals who are only too eager to help!

[iconoclast]

I think we're in agreement.

My point is that it is another futile (IMO) attempt to find identity.

There are blacks that desire to blow up things and many others who do not, but the Muslim thing is pretty much irrelevant.

[SheLion]

I'm more worried about the American liberals who are only too eager to help!

Sickening, isn't it! Can't trust any of them in this day and age!

[SheLion]

[expatguy]

Around 10% worldwide are considered fundamentalists.

[hosepipe]

Not all mid-easter's are muslims..
Some are christians.. not easy being a christian in the mid-east..
No doubt some think because you are from the mideast you are defacto muslim.. not to speak of the fact that ALL muslims are not "muslims"..

Muslims faceing the <-sillyness of Islam, face challengeing their cultures and face being rejected by their familys, friends, and in some cases face death at the hands of those very same people.... Apostasy(leaving Islam) is punishable by death. Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Qu'ran/Surah Vol. 9:57

Islam has a strong murderological base... ACT LIKE YOU BELIEVE IT OR DIE!... also its not easy being a muslim if you are a muslim, unless you've "drunken" the Kool-Aid already.. then its easier.

[iconoclast]

Agree. IMO, its just another sad and fruitless expression of an inability/resistance to assimilation.

[cyborg]

I agree. A lot of it is about identity. I think a lot of people think it's about race when that's just scratching the surface. It's more about family and lack of a strong male rolemodel,etc.

[cyborg]

Especially liberal lawyers who want to represent her.