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Druggists refuse to give out pill
USA Today, via Yahoo ^ | Charisse Jones, USA TODAY

Posted on 11/09/2004 8:23:53 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry

Edited on 11/09/2004 8:39:31 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Scenic Sounds
He didn't take the paper from her; she gave it to him.

Ya, to fill the prescription.

The question for him was whether he could in good conscience give it back. He couldn't, under the circumstances.

Bull. By what right does he refuse to return someones property to them?

101 posted on 11/09/2004 9:17:51 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
So does Depo Provera, IUDs, Norplant, etc... These methods do not prevent contraception 100% of the time. Estimates of failure to prevent ovulation range from 2 - 22%, depending on the method. But they prevent BIRTH 98% of the time by ABORTING an embryo. The pharmacist should not be forced to dispense a drug that violates his religious beliefs. If he is a Christian, to do so would be to have blood on his hands. Should he be fired from his job for his religious beliefs? Of course he should give the woman back her rx. He can choose not to be complicit in her sin, but he cannot control her actions. That's just silly.
102 posted on 11/09/2004 9:18:28 AM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Proud to live in Jesusland!)
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To: Scenic Sounds
I think we can all agree that sometimes property rights just have to take a back seat.

Sorry, but this sounds really dangerous to me. You mean something like Hillary said, (paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact quote) "we will take more from you to benefit the greater good." Sorry, property rights should take a back seat to nothing that isn't life-threatening.

103 posted on 11/09/2004 9:20:18 AM PST by stremba
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To: Scenic Sounds
Consider this pharmacist's choices when he had the woman's prescription in his hands. Obviously, if he gave it back to her, she'd just have it filled somewhere else.

And if he didn't give it back, she'd just go back to the doctor and get another, so he should have stolen her car, and perhaps shot her in the kneecaps.

104 posted on 11/09/2004 9:20:27 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: steplock

I agree totally with the notion that an INDEPENDENT can make those choices. Such was not the case here. She chose not to follow procedure, and as such is subject to termination. As it should be.

If you have a job that you believe is "forcing" you to do something immoral, wouldn't you just quit as opposed to taking a shotgun to them?


105 posted on 11/09/2004 9:20:52 AM PST by dmz
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To: Phantom Lord
Bull. By what right does he refuse to return someones property to them?

I'm just betting that when use the word right, you're going to limit me to legal rights - right?

Do you really want lawyers or pharmacists to be making pharmaceutical decisions in our country?

Does everything have to wind up in a court? ;-)

106 posted on 11/09/2004 9:22:09 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: freeeee

" There are no rights being defended when conception has not yet occurred."

Do some homework. Even Planned Parenthood and the drug companies that make the BCP advertise that an embryo will be prevented from implantating in the uterus. Conception has already occured.

Wise up, people.


107 posted on 11/09/2004 9:23:02 AM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Proud to live in Jesusland!)
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To: EggsAckley

"Personally, I think this whole thread should be pulled. It's becoming fodder for ridicule from the DUers."

Speaking as a foreigner, I'd say they could on the contrary draw some lessons from this thread, about open speech and honest debate, and the ability to bring sound contradiction in a civil manner.


108 posted on 11/09/2004 9:23:28 AM PST by Atlantic Friend
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To: Blzbba

Birth control pills, in fact, ARE abortifacients...they do kill a living unborn baby, albeit in a very early stage of the process.

If I were a pharmacist I wouldn't fill a prescription for an abortifacient...that would be like filling a prescription for Zyklon B for the local SS.

Ed


109 posted on 11/09/2004 9:23:57 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Scenic Sounds
I'm just betting that when use the word right, you're going to limit me to legal rights - right?

As opposed to what, imaginary rights?

110 posted on 11/09/2004 9:24:22 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: najida; Admin Moderator

Precisely. And I think that poster "Scenic Sounds" is a troll attempting to bait us into looking bad.


111 posted on 11/09/2004 9:24:40 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: All

How about an analogy? A person goes to S-mart to buy a 12-gauge double-barrel Remington. At the sporting goods counter he hands over his driver's license for the paperwork/age verification/etc. purposes. The clerk believes guns are evil, and refuses to sell one. He also suspects the customer will just go somewhere else to buy one, so he refuses to return the driver's license.


112 posted on 11/09/2004 9:25:56 AM PST by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: EggsAckley

The only reason you look bad is because you refuse to answer the arguments except to scream to mommy.


113 posted on 11/09/2004 9:25:57 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford (¿Podemos ahora sonreír?)
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To: Cathryn Crawford

what are you, 9?


114 posted on 11/09/2004 9:26:43 AM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Proud to live in Jesusland!)
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To: Zechariah_8_13

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.


115 posted on 11/09/2004 9:27:33 AM PST by Cathryn Crawford (¿Podemos ahora sonreír?)
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To: Phantom Lord
Are you sure you want to stand by that statement?

Absolutely, there are no pigs more equal than other pigs despite what you may think.

It does no such thing.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If through employment negotiations they arrived at an agreement that they will not have to dispense medicines they find objectionable, fine. If they do not have such an agreement with their employer they have 3 choices: Quit, dispense the medicine, start their own business and run as they see fit.

You finally got one right philospically but several of the states have already decided to expand the rights of conscience by passing laws in their respective states so in essence you got this one wrong too.

116 posted on 11/09/2004 9:28:04 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: EggsAckley
And I think that poster "Scenic Sounds" is a troll attempting to bait us into looking bad.

You don't look bad and no one else can make you look bad. You just disagree with the pharmacist. LOL. ;-)

117 posted on 11/09/2004 9:28:11 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: steplock
In Madison, Wis., a pharmacist faces possible disciplinary action by the state pharmacy board for refusing to transfer a woman's prescription for birth-control pills to another druggist or to give the slip back to her.

Well he forced his will when he refused to the 'script back to her, no? Or is that sort of force ok in your moral handbook?

118 posted on 11/09/2004 9:28:28 AM PST by Bella_Bru (Proud member of La Kosher Nostra and the IZC)
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To: Cathryn Crawford

sorry, CC, I didn't mean to send the reply to you.

got ahead of myself with the "post" button.

apologies.


119 posted on 11/09/2004 9:28:44 AM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Proud to live in Jesusland!)
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To: Cathryn Crawford

Please, madam. I answered the question SEVERAL times.

Private property is one of our most important rights.
Private property is one of our most important rights.
Private property is one of our most important rights.
Private property is one of our most important rights.

There. Now I've said it four more times. If private property is not important any more, then we may as well live in Iran or Korea or China.


120 posted on 11/09/2004 9:29:29 AM PST by EggsAckley
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