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MSNBC: Santorum Stabs Us In The Back...AGAIN! Rick "Rounding Up" Judiciary Chair Votes For Specter!
GrassrootsPA ^ | 11/17/04 | GrassrootsPA

Posted on 11/17/2004 10:45:21 AM PST by GeneralHavoc

First he single-handedly cost Toomey the race, and now this!

If this report is correct, Rick Santorum has a LOT of explaining to do...

MSNBC:

Although a staunch foe of abortion and same-sex marriage, Santorum helped Specter win re-election this year and according to Specter, has been rounding up support for him as Judiciary chairman.

"Sen. Santorum has been enormously helpful," said Specter Tuesday. "He's gone above and beyond the call of duty. My number one priority in the next two years is to reelect Sen. Santorum."

For conservative voters who may dominate in the 2008 GOP primaries, one doubts that this would really be an appealing campaign slogan: "Rick Santorum: The man who brought you Arlen Specter."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: professionalvictims; santorum; shutup; specter; victimology
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To: Josh in PA

I like Santorum too and voted for Bush. But I don't agree with them on everything. Unless I see some logical reasoning about why this is a good thing, then I can't agree with them now.


61 posted on 11/17/2004 11:23:07 AM PST by twigs
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To: GeneralHavoc

Hagel? That man has been on TV shows as often as he can be stabbing Bush in the back. He was doing it yesterday about Condi Rice. He was putting her down on Fox News.

What would cause you to like Hagel? He is one of the main Rinos!


62 posted on 11/17/2004 11:23:58 AM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: Reagan79
"Bummer. At least he is loyal."

To whom?

63 posted on 11/17/2004 11:25:34 AM PST by TAdams8591 (BORK SPECTER!!!)
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To: Huck

I dunno. I like Rick, and can't help but think he's doing what he feels is the right thing.

Plus, if I understand correctly, Arlen Sphincter says Santorum is helping him. Santorum has not said this recently, so we don't really know what is true.


64 posted on 11/17/2004 11:27:01 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: twigs

I just don't think it's worth getting our panties in a bunch about it and getting all stressed out.


Ask yourself this.. Is Bush going to nominate a moderate judge who is pro-abortion? Ask yourself that question 3 times outloud.

Bush is in complete control of the situation. White House is not freaking out, the Senate is not freaking out. The only people freaking out are people on FR.


I think it's a non concern.




65 posted on 11/17/2004 11:27:11 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: ZULU
Hey Z!

Don't forget why and how the Senate was created by the founders.

It was meant to be as apolitical as possible and deliberative.

In the beginning,members were appointed, and not elected for this reason. They did not want reelection politics involved in decision making.

The senate still clings to that ideal as they should, IMO.

Although some members are certainly in the spineless category, the bulk of them are often misinterpreted by partisans on both sides.

I try to take it with a grain of understanding, but these days it is not easy to do that because of the huge responsibilities that they are saddled with.

But, it does not surprise me at all for them to resist partisan interference, and I expect them to do so in the future.

66 posted on 11/17/2004 11:27:49 AM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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To: IM2MAD

Agreed.


67 posted on 11/17/2004 11:29:09 AM PST by TAdams8591 (BORK SPECTER!!!)
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To: Josh in PA
"I think it's a non concern."

How fast we forget, I have only one thing to say, CFR.

68 posted on 11/17/2004 11:31:20 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: FourtySeven

Specter has had his testicles lopped off the last few weeks.


69 posted on 11/17/2004 11:32:42 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: Neville72
There's a difference between someone who isn't ideologically pure and someone who doesn't share the ideology.

Specter does not share the ideology. He is a Liberal Democrat.

70 posted on 11/17/2004 11:32:48 AM PST by TAdams8591 (BORK SPECTER!!!)
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To: Cold Heat

What you are stating is true, BUT the Founders never intended that the Courts legislate from the bench, especially when the laws they generate are not in keeping with American history, tradition, or historic interpretation of the Constitution.

This Country is approaching a major crisis of moral identity, and our very survival in the form in which we have historically existed is dependent upon the compositon of the Courts.

Specter is a loose cannon, a far left-wing liberal with a track record of lying to his constituency and to others in public life.

His position in the Chairmanship of the Senate Judiciary Committee will allow him to do inestimable harm to the President and to the nation. And he will fully avail himself of that opportunity. Even in the very act of attempting to explain away his indefensible comments, he equivocated.

This is not a purely partisan issue, its a survival issue. And Specter is our enemy.


71 posted on 11/17/2004 11:34:41 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
Unfortunately, as was proven in the Clinton impeachment, the Republican House members have all the backbone and cojones. The Senate Repubs, for the most part, are a bunch of spineless eunuchs.

There's a reason for this. In the House, the Representatives are elected by small, local districts, some of which have an electorate that is VERY conservative. Someone like Ron Paul or Steve Chabot can get elected in the right district, but I doubt either guy would win a Senate race. In the Senate, you have to appeal to an entire state which usually means that you can't be as conservative. Which is why most of us can name 10 RINO's in the Senate off the top of our heads but would take a while to find that many in the House.

72 posted on 11/17/2004 11:36:05 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: JustAnAmerican

Well then, how bout supporting this guy for the 2008 Presidential campaign:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1281271/posts


73 posted on 11/17/2004 11:37:22 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: GeneralHavoc; All

Dare I say.. Senate floor sit in during voting on rules???


74 posted on 11/17/2004 11:38:06 AM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: Aquinasfan

Sanford/Pawlenty!!

I'd still support Santorum in a Veep slot IF the next 2 years prove to be good and Bush's appointees make it past the Sphincter.


75 posted on 11/17/2004 11:38:27 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: GeneralHavoc

Sanford - YES!!

Hagel - HELL NO!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1281271/posts


76 posted on 11/17/2004 11:38:57 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: matymac
"Kerry would have appointed the Judges,

OK but the GOP Senate would have to approve. Specter as Committee Chairman is just about a dictator in moving nominees thru.

77 posted on 11/17/2004 11:39:21 AM PST by ex-snook (Moral values - The GOP must now walk the talk - no excuses.)
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To: ZULU
His position in the Chairmanship of the Senate Judiciary Committee will allow him to do inestimable harm to the President and to the nation.

It's not like Specter can be any worse than Orrin Hatch, the man who recommended Ruth Bader Ginsburg as a good Supreme Court choice.

78 posted on 11/17/2004 11:41:16 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: GeneralHavoc
At this point, Santorum's Washington office phone number has been placed in my speed dialing directory, so often have we phoned him in the past seven or so months (and again today.)

However, he has been taken off my list of "conservatives to vote for." He had a rare and wonderful opportunity to redeem himself. He failed miserably. Buh-Bye, Rick.

79 posted on 11/17/2004 11:43:36 AM PST by TAdams8591 (BORK SPECTER!!!)
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To: Josh in PA
Is Bush going to nominate a moderate judge who is pro-abortion?

Entirely possible.

80 posted on 11/17/2004 11:44:38 AM PST by twigs
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