FRENCH SOLDIERS OPEN FIRE ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS ON THE IVORY COAST (WARNING VERY GRAPHIC VIDEO)

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[happygrl]

DoughtyOne, you are my personal hero on FR, because you have the courage and integrity to return to a thread and adjust your position, based on your further understanding of what is being examined. You also had the courage to stand firm when it was originally not apparent to you what the video purported to show.

I'm taking a lesson from this. You're a good model of what this forum is about.

[Moonman62]

ironically it sure shows the power of unrestrained procreation doesn't it?....even in light of harsh living conditions and war and famine and disease.

That's how they've overcome the problems from harsh living. They outbreed them, and life is cheap. I'm not sure what you mean by Nigeria.

[TexKat]

French troops stand near a dead Ivorian youth as they confront protesters at the entrance of the French military base in the Port Bouet, Abidjan, November 7, 2004. Top generals in Ivory Coast pledged on Nov. 8 to work with France to establish stability in the world's top cocoa grower after three days of violent anti-French riots in the main city Abidjan. Photo by Reuters

A French soldier from Operation Licorne, part of a UN peacekeeping force in Ivory Coast, guards the de Gaule bridge in Abidjan.(AFP/File/Issouf Sanogo)

The headquarters of the 24 Hours newspaper is seen after being burned by a mob in Abidjan in this picture taken on November 5, 2004. The commander of Ivory Coast's ground offensive against rebels in the north ordered troops to withdraw from the front line on Sunday as France flew in more soldiers to its former West African colony. The United Nations and France demanded that President Laurent Gbagbo end fighting after his forces killed nine French peacekeepers and injured 23. Picture taken on November 5, 2004. REUTERS/Thierry Gouegnon

Men walk in a street of Yamoussoukro after lootings that took place November 7, 2004. Ivory Coast on Sunday ordered a pullback from an offensive on the rebel-held north after France destroyed its airpower in a retaliatory strike which sparked mob attacks on French citizens and property. Former colonial power France was flying in more troops to protect foreigners from attacks and looting, and there were reports of its forces moving south. A resident said a convoy of French troops in some 30 trucks, 10 tanks and 10 smaller vehicles headed south on Sunday towards the main city of Abidjan from the capital Yamoussoukro. Reuters/Luc Gnago

A vehicle is seen burning on a street in Abidjan in this picture taken on November 5, 2004 as mobs loot and burn in Ivory Coast's largest cities. The commander of Ivory Coast's ground offensive against rebels in the north ordered troops to withdraw from the front line on Sunday as France flew in more soldiers to its former West African colony. The United Nations and France demanded that President Laurent Gbagbo end fighting after his forces killed nine French peacekeepers and injured 23. Picture taken on November 5, 2004. REUTERS/Thierry Gouegnon

Ivory Coast government supporters demonstrate at a roadblock just out side the airport at Yamoussoukro, Ivory Coast, Sunday Nov. 7, 2004. Machete-waving mobs thousands strong looted and burned in Ivory Coast's largest cities Sunday, laying siege to a French military base and searching house to house for French families after a day of ground and air clashes between forces of France and its former colony.(AP Photo/Schalk van Zuydam)

A French school burns after being looted in Yamouussoukro, Ivory Coast, on November 6, 2004. After Ivory Coast's military killed nine French soldiers in a bombing raid on the rebel stronghold of Bouake on Saturday French President Jacques Chirac ordered warplanes and helicopters used by the West African country in violation of a ceasefire to be destroyed after the air raid, in which 23 French soldiers were injured and a U.S. citizen killed. Mobs of machete-wielding supporters of President Laurent Gbagbo, known as 'Young Patriots', rampaged through Abidjan and Yamoussoukro furious at the French destruction of the planes. Photo by Luc Gnago/Reuters

Men throw water on a blaze at the Librarie de France bookstore in Abidjan's chic Cocody quarter. France was set to send fresh troops to Ivory Coast after a night of fighting in which French peacekeepers clashed with thousands of demonstrators seeking to "retake" Abidjan airport, leaving at least three dead.(AFP/Issouf Sanogo)

French gendarmes fire tear gas to dipserse protesters in Abidjan. France was set to send fresh troops to Ivory Coast after a night of fighting in which French peacekeepers clashed with thousands of demonstrators seeking to "retake" Abidjan airport, leaving at least three dead.(AFP/File/Issouf Sanogo)

[JerseyHighlander]

Note that 60 were killed, over several days, across the entire country. This videotaped event had between 6 or 8 killed. I've read 4 civilians, and 4 armed Ivorian police officers. Also read 3 civilians and 3 police officers.

[TexKat]

On some of these pictures the caption includes (Machete-waving mobs). I have yet to see a picture with any of these people with anything other than anti-Chirac signs in their hands.

[alwaysconservative]

Thanks for the photos. This is simply awful.

[TexKat]

After seeing the video I had to see if I could find more info of what actually happened.

Blood on the floor of the hotel Ivoire's car park in Abidjan, Ivory Coast following an anti-French demonstration. Ivorians are flooding into Liberia by the thousands to avoid being caught between rebels and government troops, UN humanitarian agencies said in an appeal to help shore up meagre resources in the war-battered state.(AFP/File/Issouf Sanogo)

[wardaddy]

oh...just that Nigeria is huge and overpopulating like rabbits as an example even after brutal civil wars and susbstandard living etc.


we here and in Europe have grown soft as putty and aim to underbreed ourselves into extinction it appears.

I naturally have done my part to try to keep my tribe afloat.....it was tuff but someone had to do it.

[Fred Nerks]

I have my doubts that anything the AFP says about these events can be trusted. Let me throw this 'out there' - the french are very unhappy about US successes in Iraq and at the same time attempting to draw attention away from their complicity with Saddam a la Oil for Food. They would like nothing better than to draw the US into this conflict. IMO.

[JerseyHighlander]

The Cocoa industry is controlled vertically by French interests.

The food industry is France’s largest industrial sector (ahead of the car industry and
the chemical industry, according to turnover). Chocolate and Confectionery constitute 5.7% of the food industry.

The Chocolate and confectionery industry has a yearly turnover of EU 7.08 Billion (~US$9.2 Billion w/ approx exchange rate 11/20/04) in the year of 2001.

http://www.tradepartners.gov.uk/files/french_food.pdf
Follow the money.

[Deetes]

That was my point. I linked to polipundit.com . Which has the link to the 63 over so many days...
But this was a bad scene . But the video just seems to be spliced together oddly .

[Fred Nerks]

"Follow the money."

Sounds about right. The french support the islamists and get to keep their cocoa at the same time. Although my heart breaks for Africa there is no way I can see the US saving it from islam.

[Johnnyboy2000]

This situation is not about chocolate. France is in the Ivory Coast because the French government wants to assert itself as a world power, and Africa is the only place in the world where France actually is a power. I stated early on in this thread that I am holding judgement on this tape until I see more evidence, but I do wonder why France is involved in an African civil war. At least we are not involved in this fiasco....yet. It wouldn't be the first time we had to bail the Frenchies out of a military engagement.

[KMC1]

Wait - you mean there is proof that the FRENCH HAVE in fact actually fired weapons before? WOW - this is too much for me to take in all at one time...

[Fred Nerks]

"But I do wonder why France is invloved in an African civil war."

Did you read #511 ?

[Deetes]

I can just see jack chirak asking for HELP !!!

[surfatsixty]

ping for later

[DoughtyOne]

I believe your comments accurately describe what's going on. The major news players are not buying into this one for whatever reason. That's a scandle that rivals the act itself.

The media prides itself on being the concience of the nation. Now this. How can they hold their heads up ignoring such an incident?

[happygrl]

Fred, the Africans are going to have to save themselves from Islam.

I say this as one who has lived there and continues to have friendships with Africans here in the U.S.

Did you know that until the recent troubles in Zimbabwe, that it was No. 5 on the missionary-sending nations list (mostly to surounding countries) ?

I have Liberian friends here in the US who are determined to evangelize their African neighbors, even in Muslim Mali.

Did you notice the Christian poster and the Bibles in the video ?

While others on this thread know the woes of Africa, I know the strengths, and that is the people, what they have been through, and the Faith that has developed as a result.

African Christians are experiencing what the Early Church experienced.

They will surprise us.

[TBarnett34]

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