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'I Do, I Do,' but Not Yet: More in America Putting off Marriage
AP ^ | Dec 1, 2004

Posted on 12/01/2004 2:16:21 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

It used to be common for men and women to get a marriage certificate not too long after collecting their high school diploma. Not anymore.

Census Bureau figures for 2003 show one-third of men and nearly one-quarter of women between the ages of 30 and 34 have never been married, nearly four times the rates in 1970.

It's further evidence young people are focusing on education and careers before settling down and beginning families, experts say. Societal taboos about couples living together before marriage also have eased, said Linda Waite, a University of Chicago sociologist.

Jeni Landers, a 30-year-old law student from Boston, said she considers living together a requirement before saying "I do."

"I don't know how people got married before living together first," said Landers, who moved in with her fiance after getting engaged nearly a year ago. "This is crucial to see how you get along."

Data from the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey released this week show the age at which someone typically marries for the first time rose from 20.8 for women and 23.2 for men in 1970 to 25.3 and 27.1, respectively, last year.

In 1970, only 6 percent of women 30 to 34 had never been married; the figure was 23 percent in 2003. The rate for never-married men in the same age group rose from 9 percent to 33 percent.

Among younger women, some 36 percent of those 20 to 24 had never been married in 1970; last year it was 75 percent. Among men in that age group, the change was nearly as dramatic: 55 percent in 1970 to 86 percent last year.

"The majority of people still want to get married, but they see it sort of as dessert now, something that's desirable rather than necessary," said Dorion Solot, executive director of the Albany, N.Y.-based Alternatives to Marriage Project, which aims to fight discrimination based on marital status and to seek equality and fairness for unmarried people.

"People want to be more sure that they don't make a marriage mistake," Solot said.

Meanwhile, societal pressures to marry before having children have decreased, said Thomas Coleman, executive director for the Glendale, Calif.-based Unmarried America, which also promotes equality for unmarried people. Among the group's concerns are tax policies which it contends are stacked against single people.

In 2003, nearly 35 percent of all births were to unmarried women, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. That's up from 11 percent in 1970, though the rate of increase has slowed since 1995, when 32 percent of births were out-of-wedlock. Births to unmarried teens have declined since the mid-1990s.

Meaghan Lamarre, 24, a research assistant in Providence, R.I., said she and her boyfriend of 10 months "are not in a big hurry to marry." Lamarre's focus is on work and getting into an Ivy League graduate program, possibly in public policy.

"There's no time frame of when to get married.... It's not a goal," said Lamarre, an Alternatives to Marriage Project member. "I'm not opposed to it, but I think I could live happily ever after without being married."

That kind of talk disturbs David Blankenhorn, president of the Institute for American Values, a New York-based pro-marriage organization. Blankenhorn says Lamarre's philosophy is more of a concern to him than those who delay marriage to focus on school or a career.

Compared with 1970, Blankenhorn said, "There is a sense that marriage has a less dominant role in our society and is less influential as a social institution."

Having parents or family members who are divorced may also make some people in their 20s and 30s hesitant about entering into a long-term relationship, said Dennis Lowe, a Pepperdine University psychology professor who focuses on counseling for engaged and married couples.

National Center for Health Statistics data show the U.S. divorce rate was 2.2 per 1,000 Americans in 1960; it rose steadily to 5.3 per 1,000 in 1981 but has declined slowly since then to 4 per 1,000 in 2001.

Census figures also show fewer Americans at older ages who have never been married. In 1970, 8 percent of people 65 and older never had married; now it's 4 percent.

Landers, the Boston law student, said living with her fiance is a "testing period" as both deal with school and their careers. "We already knew what we had was concrete, but the actual act of getting engaged holds a lot of weight with a lot of other people," she said.

Now there's pressure to set a wedding date, though Landers said there's no immediate plan to do so.

"It drives people crazy," she said.


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1 posted on 12/01/2004 2:16:21 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I am 27 and unmarried. Dating, but unmarried. Just haven't found the right one. Maybe the current one is, dunno yet. I'd rather wait till 30 and marry ONCE than get married at 19 and divorce like several of my former high school classmates have.


2 posted on 12/01/2004 2:18:00 PM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism and sexism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

*sigh*

And then there are those of us who thought we'd be married with half a dozen kids by the time we were thirty, but who found most of the people in our age group wayyyyy too immature for marriage to be even a blip on their radar.

I'd rather wait for the right one than settle...even if it means being single for life. But it's very hard to be patient sometimes.


3 posted on 12/01/2004 2:18:35 PM PST by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

The entire institution of marriage has been undermined by the far left. No wonder it's no longer popular.


4 posted on 12/01/2004 2:19:14 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It's further evidence young people are focusing on education and careers before settling down and beginning families, experts say.

Oh, really? I chalk it up to lowering moral standards and general hedonism.

Societal taboos about couples living together before marriage also have eased, said Linda Waite, a University of Chicago sociologist.

Yeah, that's part of it.

5 posted on 12/01/2004 2:26:18 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Marriage is a great institution -- are your ready to be instituitionalized?

A man is not complete until he is married and then he is finished.

Save money by having your wedding at a nudist colony -- plus you can really tell who the best man is!

6 posted on 12/01/2004 2:27:43 PM PST by pikachu (The REAL script)
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To: RosieCotton

I hear ya! (Though I'm happily married now with 1 child--got married to Mr Right when I was 33 years old)

With my upbringing, I was shocked at the small number of men I met who wanted a committed relationship. (probably same could be said of women too) Most of the ones I met were out for one thing, and one thing only. Which they got pretty easily. I think you all know what I'm talking about.

It was pretty depressing, being that all I wanted to be was a wife and mother.


8 posted on 12/01/2004 2:27:57 PM PST by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I wonder if many put off marriage because divorce scares them. It seems that most people I have known who married ended up divorced.


9 posted on 12/01/2004 2:29:15 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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Though I'm happily married now with 1 child--got married to Mr Right when I was 33 years old

Stories like that give me a lot of hope! I have a tendency to compare myself to friends and family, most of whom married young. To some, I was an old maid at 24 or 25.

But yeah, there aren't too many good men left! Good women either, I'd say. Gettin' together is tough, too!

10 posted on 12/01/2004 2:29:39 PM PST by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I'm in my fourties and have never been married, but I have several friends the same age who have been married lots of times, so it all evens out.


11 posted on 12/01/2004 2:31:45 PM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

It's difficult for those with traditional values who would like to marry and have a family if they could meet the right person. There are so many wrong persons out there who haven't a clue what marriage should be about.

The evidence suggests that even many strong Evangelicals and church-going Catholics just can't seem to stick together any more.


12 posted on 12/01/2004 2:32:37 PM PST by Cicero (Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
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To: Baynative

I've known plenty of conservatives who have "shacked up" before getting married.

There is something to be said for seeing if you are compatible in a shared living arrangement before doing something as serious as marriage should be.


13 posted on 12/01/2004 2:33:54 PM PST by MaineRepublic (Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides)
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To: MisterRepublican
I wonder if many put off marriage because divorce scares them. It seems that most people I have known who married ended up divorced.

I must be from another planet. I had a group of friends in High School (25 years ago) and out of the 25 or so of us that hung around together, only ONE is divorced. We've all been married 20 years or longer.

I don't know if it's a Midwest thing, or a generational thing, or a what . . . .

14 posted on 12/01/2004 2:34:43 PM PST by WIladyconservative (Be an active member of the pajamahadeen - set up a monthly donation to FR!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

That's why the Caucasian fertility rate is about 1.4 - just a tad above the dying European countries.


15 posted on 12/01/2004 2:37:04 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: WIladyconservative

Well, from my amateur observations, I have noticed that if you work in sales, you have a great chance of getting a divorce. If you work with all guys like I do in an engineering organization, the marriages seem to be stronger. I don't know any co-workers who have marriage problems. But the sales department is like a soap opera.


16 posted on 12/01/2004 2:37:39 PM PST by MaineRepublic (Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides)
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To: MaineRepublic

LOL - the ONE friend who is divorced is a PREACHER!


17 posted on 12/01/2004 2:38:42 PM PST by WIladyconservative (Be an active member of the pajamahadeen - set up a monthly donation to FR!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Married at 30 and am very glad I waited. People in their twenties have considerable maturing to do.

Living together before marriage isn't a good 'test case' and can easily cause one to wish they had not later on.


18 posted on 12/01/2004 2:38:46 PM PST by Bhrian
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To: Brilliant

That's not occurring on the right.


19 posted on 12/01/2004 2:38:50 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: MisterRepublican

Two main points in my opinion why people are not getting married, you hit the nail on the head below on the first one. The laws gave too much power to women to take half of everything a man owns, the house and the kids, leaving many men destitute and obligated for many years. Not saying that women shouldn't get something but too many women took too much advantage and now successful men cover their ass(ets).

The second point is the morally casual nature of our society of easy sex, and the breakdown of the God given institution of marriage. As one other poster put it, the liberal left has done their damage.

"I wonder if many put off marriage because divorce scares them. It seems that most people I have known who married ended up divorced."


20 posted on 12/01/2004 2:39:45 PM PST by quant5
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