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950,000 Americans infected with HIV
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Posted on 12/05/2004 1:24:37 AM PST by OnlyinAmerica

950,000 Americans infected with HIV By DANIEL YEE Associated Press

ATLANTA - Nearly a million Americans now have the AIDS virus and the nation's ability to keep others from becoming infected still lags despite a government pledge four years ago to "break the back" of the AIDS epidemic by 2005.

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The campaign, launched by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in February 2001, intended to cut in half the estimated 40,000 new HIV infections that have occurred every year since the 1990s.

However, the rate of new cases remains about the same, according to CDC data released Wednesday. In Harris County, statistics indicate the rate has declined slightly in the last three years. The county has reported more than 22,000 AIDS cases since 1981.

In 2001, the CDC's campaign focused on outwardly healthy people who did not realize they had HIV — about one-fourth of those infected.

But the agency found just targeting those people was not enough.

So last year, the CDC shifted gears, focusing on counseling those who knew they had HIV to get them not to spread the virus.


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1 posted on 12/05/2004 1:24:38 AM PST by OnlyinAmerica
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To: OnlyinAmerica
It ain't gonna work. Everyone who knows they have aids or that they are now HIV+ are bitter and angry.

Those who don't know they ARE HIV+ don't listen or concern themselves with the problem They think that, like we all do, that they are immortal and aren't subject to the risks involved regarding infection...

Unfortunately, quarantine or house arrest is the only true method to stop the spread of such a disease. And THAT ain't gonna happen..

2 posted on 12/05/2004 1:32:12 AM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! It appears that SABERTOOTH is suspended. Again. Why , JimRob, why????)
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To: OnlyinAmerica
In preventing HIV transmission, why would a program include free condom dispersement?
3 posted on 12/05/2004 1:33:06 AM PST by endthematrix ("Hey, it didn't hit a bone, Colonel. Do you think I can go back?" - U.S. Marine)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6

PC liberals think that everyone should have as much sex as they want regardless of any consequences.

PC is idiocy. And liberals are idiots!


4 posted on 12/05/2004 1:38:18 AM PST by Bullish
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To: OnlyinAmerica
...despite a government pledge four years ago to "break the back" of the AIDS epidemic by 2005.

Hmmmm. Let me think. Who was president four years ago? This must be his fault.

BTW, in preventing the spread of AIDS, zippers are far more effective than condoms.

5 posted on 12/05/2004 1:40:15 AM PST by Fresh Wind (All we are say-y-y-y-ing is give Beast a chance!)
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To: Bullish
um, however you look at it, aids doesn't care if you are conservative or liberal..

The Center for Disease Control is merely trying to do just that. But human nature (e.g. "NOT ME") will continue to be fallible..

6 posted on 12/05/2004 1:47:32 AM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! It appears that SABERTOOTH is suspended. Again. Why , JimRob, why????)
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To: OnlyinAmerica
And the immune suppressed are great breeding incubators for all kinds of infectious diseases that are aimed at man....

Perfect incubators of bio terror...

If you haven't considered cultivating a 'saving relationship' with your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?....now would be a very smart time....

imo
7 posted on 12/05/2004 1:48:11 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: OnlyinAmerica
More junk HIV statistics.

The serological tests for HIV have not (to date) been calibrated against an isolate of the HIV virus. Without this "gold-standard calibration" the tests have no business being used in epidemiology or diagnosis, as we have no idea what the false posititive rate (or "specificity") is. And a fp rate of 1 in 100, 000 would still mean many more false cases than true ones.

Isn't it funny how people can be walking around healthy without "realising" they have an apparently deadly virus? This is an epidemic by diagnosis - a false test panics healthy patients into taking a poisonous cure (Used to be AZT, now Cathepsin-D inhibitors) and then they go into physical decline. There have been thousands upon thousands of "AIDs" deaths in the USA, and 90% of them died of liver failure!

8 posted on 12/05/2004 2:08:12 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: OnlyinAmerica

Everyone has AIDS!
AIDS AIDS AIDS!
AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS!
Everyone has AIDS!

And so this is the end of our story
And everyone is dead from AIDS
It took from me my best friend
My only true pal
My only bright star (he died of AIDS)

Well I'm gonna march on Washington
Lead the fight and charge the brigades
There's a hero inside of all of us
I'll make them see everyone has AIDS

My father (AIDS!)
My sister (AIDS!)
My uncle and my cousin and her best friend (AIDS AIDS AIDS!)
The gays and the straights
And the white and the spades

Everyone has AIDS!
My grandma and my dog 'ol blue (AIDS AIDS AIDS)
The pope has got it and so do you (AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS)
C'mon everybody we got quilting to do (AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS AIDS)
We gotta break down these baricades, everyone has
AIDS! x 20


9 posted on 12/05/2004 2:20:24 AM PST by Iwentsouth
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To: OnlyinAmerica

I'll never understand this stuff. If the fudge packers and dope needle suckers would curtail their behavior, then the problem goes away. It's called 'cause and effect.' Duh. This HIV/AIDS BS is beyond me.


10 posted on 12/05/2004 2:32:27 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: OnlyinAmerica

Saw a movie a few years ago with Michael J Fox. He failed to score with a girl. He walked away, looked at his hand and asked, "So what are you doing tonight?" Funny as hell.


11 posted on 12/05/2004 2:35:00 AM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: OnlyinAmerica
Below is the full article as found in the Union Tribune

http://crossword.uniontrib.com/news/health/20041201-1427-aids-u.s.cases.html

Despite government campaign, HIV infection rates unchanged in U.S., as cases near 1 million

By Daniel Yee
ASSOCIATED PRESS

2:27 p.m. December 1, 2004

ATLANTA – Nearly a million Americans now have the AIDS virus and the nation's ability to keep others from becoming infected still lags despite a government pledge four years ago to "break the back" of the AIDS epidemic by 2005.

The campaign, launched by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in February 2001, intended to cut in half the estimated 40,000 new HIV infections that have occurred every year since the 1990s. .

However, the rate of new cases remains about the same, according to CDC data released Wednesday as part of the federal health agency's commemoration of World AIDS Day. .

"We have a ways to go before we reach the mark of reducing new infections by half in the United States," said Dr. Ronald Valdiserri, the director of the CDC HIV and AIDS prevention program. He called the country's HIV infection rate "relatively stable." .

"Clearly we want to continue, and are continuing, to fund programs to reach out to people who are high-risk and are not infected," he added. .

In 2001, the CDC's campaign focused on outwardly healthy people who did not realize they had HIV – about one-fourth of those infected. Officials then said targeting them was key, because if they knew they were infected, they would be more likely to take steps not to spread the virus. .

Such an effort "could possibly break the back of the epidemic in the United States," the CDC's Dr. Robert Janssen said then. .

But the agency found that just targeting people who didn't know they had the AIDS virus was not enough. So last year, the CDC shifted gears, focusing on counseling those who knew they had HIV in an attempt to get them not to spread the virus. .

Yet some advocacy groups say that effort fails to focus on drug users, or very sexually active young men, which advocacy groups say is key in preventing new infections. .

"It just doesn't seem like much is really happening," said Terje Anderson, executive director of the Washington-based National Association of People Living With AIDS. "There just is a lack of imagination or spark in terms of the kinds of programs they support. I think they are politically afraid." .

The CDC believes up to 950,000 people in the United States are infected with HIV and up to 280,000 of them don't know it, Valdiserri said. .

The rate of HIV diagnoses in the United States increased slightly – by 1 percent – between 2000 and 2003, from 19.5 people per 100,000 population to 19.7 per 100,000 in the 32 states surveyed by the CDC. .

Advocacy groups blame a lack of federal money for part of the failure to make a dent in the HIV rate. .

"The reality is, to cut the number of infections, we need to do more – you can't always do more with less. We desperately need more resources," Anderson said. .

When the AIDS epidemic began to unfold in the 1980s, U.S. infections grew quickly. Although infections peaked late in that decade, they have remained level since the mid-1990s. Drug therapies have enabled many infected with HIV to live relatively normal lives, but more than 18,000 Americans died of AIDS in 2003, according to the latest data available. .

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12 posted on 12/05/2004 2:42:03 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: OnlyinAmerica

Problem: when I read the CDC data, I see that about 1 million people in the US have been infected with HIV since we discovered this beastie in the 80's -- of those people, *some* have developed AIDS, and some haven't -- and of those who have developed AIDS, 500,000 have died.

So, if I am reading the data correctly, as of *right now* about 500,000 Americans are HIV positive. About 40% of them have AIDS. The fastest growing, and largest, HIV infection groups are homosexual men (45%) and blacks (51%).

There are about 30-35,000 new HIV cases per year. This has been the status quo for some time now.

So the only real "emergency" is a gradual focus away from the AIDS/HIV research industry, into areas of more productive & promising endeavors, as well as the ever-present "emergency" in newsrooms everywhere, the need to sell the crisis-de-jour, and thereby sell advertisements.

While it is most unfortunate that some people persist in behaviors that expose them to deadly diseases, I don't see why their failure to exercise prudent judgement, as well as the consequences for their actions, should be a burden to me and my family.


13 posted on 12/05/2004 2:54:57 AM PST by Mudcat
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To: G.Mason

"The CDC believes up to 950,000 people in the United States are infected with HIV"

Many of those "are infected" are now dead. About 500,000 or so. If I've read the tables correctly, which I don't believe any AIDS reporters do. But then again, they didn't major in mathematics in college -- they majored in selling advertisement space in newspapers, on television, magazines, and so forth.


14 posted on 12/05/2004 2:57:26 AM PST by Mudcat
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To: OnlyinAmerica
ATLANTA - Nearly a million Americans now have the AIDS virus and the nation's ability to keep others from becoming infected still lags despite a government pledge four years ago to "break the back" of the AIDS epidemic by 2005.

That's just over 4 percent. I wonder what percentage of the population is composed of prostitutes and gays?
15 posted on 12/05/2004 3:10:19 AM PST by Jaysun (Trees are a renewable resource you idiots.)
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To: Cobra64

Yeah, but at least he knows where his hand has been...


16 posted on 12/05/2004 3:14:31 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: Jaysun

So Sorry 0.4 percent.


17 posted on 12/05/2004 3:16:11 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: Mudcat
"Many of those "are infected" are now dead. About 500,000 or so. If I've read the tables correctly, which I don't believe any AIDS reporters do. But then again, they didn't major in mathematics in college -- they majored in selling advertisement space in newspapers, on television, magazines, and so forth."

Without question there is an agenda being stoked here.

The fact is that information about HIV-AIDS has been out in public view for all to see since the late 1980's.

The root of this disease is largely behavioral. No ammount of "clean needles:, or "condoms" is going to be effective against it.

"Advocacy groups blame a lack of federal money for part of the failure to make a dent in the HIV rate."

Like any special interest group, it's all about giving them more of taxpayers money, and absolutely nothing about personal responsibility.

Me? I don't hang out with homosexuals, or druggies, and as you stated in your post # 13, "I don't see why their failure to exercise prudent judgement, as well as the consequences for their actions, should be a burden to me and my family."

18 posted on 12/05/2004 3:23:24 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: joesnuffy

HIV/AIDS is caused by known behavior and anyone who gets it is responsible himself for it. There's noone who's not engaged in such behavior (other than hemophiliacs) who innocently contract this disease. I'm sick of being told to feel sorry for the 'victims' of this. . . they're not victims; they're perpetrators. I've heard of no hemophiliacs recently so maybe the blood supply no longer carries the disease.
If noone behaved dangerously starting today, the numbers would fall to zero eventually as current diseased eventually die.


19 posted on 12/05/2004 3:32:24 AM PST by SouthCarolinaKit
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
Well, as afar as the rest of us tax payers are concerned, why is it my responsibility to pay for their behavior ? or our Health insurance cost going up because we have to help pay for those who have HIV/AIDS ?
This is one disease that does not have a cure, but ? it can be stopped, it's called QUARANTENMENT Whether they like it or not, they should be made to be quarantined by the courts and health officials, until there is no more spread of this disease in the world. Those who have AIDS/HIV are a HEALTH RISK to all of us.
20 posted on 12/05/2004 3:43:39 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: agere_contra

Please do not try to confuse a perfectly scary story with the facts. ;-).

I love smart people on FR!


21 posted on 12/05/2004 3:44:59 AM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: Cobra64

Proving once again, what kind of relationship guys really want!


22 posted on 12/05/2004 3:46:43 AM PST by anniegetyourgun (Whether 'tis better to suffer the taglines......)
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To: Alacarte

ping


23 posted on 12/05/2004 3:58:14 AM PST by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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To: anniegetyourgun

It is the homosexuals' greatest legacy.


24 posted on 12/05/2004 3:58:20 AM PST by ReadyNow
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To: agere_contra
More junk HIV statistics

You are right of course but, even on this generally well informed forum, you will not find many who agree with you. I happen to be one of those few.

I'm still looking for that really definitive photo of the HIV virus and any real proof that it is contagious and is the cause of any of the diseases categorized as AIDS. Haven't seen any of that yet. Do a Google Image search for HIV. All you get are "representations". Isn't that a little odd for virus that supposedly destroys your immune system? We should have a photo or two of this little beast by now.

25 posted on 12/05/2004 4:14:31 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: ReadyNow
There is a new strain of Clymidia in Europe now ( Only found in homosexuals ).
We heard back in the 1980s about how AIDS/HIV was the " GAY Plague " then, we heard all the homos and PC crowd cry about how the AIDS/HIV epidemic was " NOT " the gay plague and how we need to be more sensitive.
Well ? what about this new strain of Clymidia ? only found in homosexuals in Europe ? I still believe that the AIDS/HIV epidemic " WAS THE GAY PLEAGE from GOD " and this new strain of Clymidia is a new " PLEAGE on the GAYS " from GOD.
26 posted on 12/05/2004 4:18:25 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: OnlyinAmerica

Another dwindling base of Democratic voters.


27 posted on 12/05/2004 4:48:26 AM PST by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: OnlyinAmerica

Fewer blue state voters...this is bad?


28 posted on 12/05/2004 4:52:07 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: agere_contra
These are bunko statistics.

The truth about AIDS is that it largely a disease that affects fringe segments of the population who get it due to risky behavior, like drug users and gay men. The story that the activists and the media concocted in the 90's that AIDS would come to white suburbia and affect everyone was nothing more than a lie used to frighten middle America into donating money for a cause that could be affected by just moderating behavior.

29 posted on 12/05/2004 4:54:47 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: Smokin' Joe
So Sorry 0.4 percent.

Great Heavens you're right, it's less than 1/2 a percent (it was too many zeros for me). That makes the question as to how many of them are gay or "working girls" even more interesting.
30 posted on 12/05/2004 4:55:31 AM PST by Jaysun (Trees are a renewable resource you idiots.)
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
There's noone who's not engaged in such behavior (other than hemophiliacs) who innocently contract this disease.

Add new borns to the list of innocents and I agree.

31 posted on 12/05/2004 5:04:08 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/19/04)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6

You are right. The only way to control epidemics is with quarantine, a public health technique that has worked for many years.

However, the up side is with abortion of leftists and AIDs taking them out, conservatives will be running this country for years to come.


32 posted on 12/05/2004 5:23:52 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Graybeard58

It should be a way to bring back the concept of virginity until marriage. "OK, kid, you can have sex with anyone, but you might die a painful death OR you can court and marry a conservative Christian man or woman and have wonderful kids like you and joy the rest of your life."


33 posted on 12/05/2004 5:26:54 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

IIRC, the definition of AIDS and ARC was changed in the '90s, and the numbers doubled overnight.


34 posted on 12/05/2004 5:27:27 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: KC_Conspirator

On the other hand, Aids research has contributed to overall medical research and resulted in a lot of new discoveries.


35 posted on 12/05/2004 5:28:32 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Cobra64

AIDS is NOT a disease, but a civil rights status.


36 posted on 12/05/2004 5:29:11 AM PST by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

"There is a new strain of Clymidia in Europe now ( Only found in homosexuals )."

For all you biblical literalists who don't think biological evolution is going on, this is an example of evolution in action.

The left deserves the Darwin Award this year.


37 posted on 12/05/2004 5:30:24 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: SouthCarolinaKit
not so, i am afraid. There was at least one case of a person getting the disease from dental procedures. That was confirmed because she was 13, a virgin with no sexual past, and not an IV drug kimberly Bergalis< /a>
38 posted on 12/05/2004 5:31:11 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: Mudcat

The danger is many of those infected are probably college professors.


39 posted on 12/05/2004 5:33:52 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Iwentsouth

*giggles* OMG that movie . . . that song made me lose my drink.


40 posted on 12/05/2004 5:36:24 AM PST by twinzmommy (*laughs*)
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To: InterceptPoint

AIDs really isn't that contagious. You have to work at it to get it, unless you accidently get a biohazard stick from a AIDs carrier or have direct contact with body fluids to a cut etc.

I don't think your "conspiracy" theory that AIDs doesn't exist is operative. You don't just take pictures of tiny microscopic creatures. OK, all line up "say cheese". ;-)


41 posted on 12/05/2004 5:36:35 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Fresh Wind
BTW, in preventing the spread of AIDS, zippers are far more effective than condoms.

Mandatory zipper locks is the key.

More open zippers killed more people than unlocked guns.

42 posted on 12/05/2004 5:37:33 AM PST by Popman
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To: OnlyinAmerica
950,000 Americans infected with HIV

Really? What ever happened to the tens of millions of infected and dying that were predicted in the late 80s and early 90s? AIDS was, is, and will remain a homosexual male and intravenous drug user disease.

43 posted on 12/05/2004 5:39:04 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: OnlyinAmerica

And how are these people catching HIV? Mosquitos?


44 posted on 12/05/2004 5:40:26 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

So Sorry, 0.04 percent.


45 posted on 12/05/2004 5:51:58 AM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: B4Ranch

1,000,000/250,000,000*100=?


46 posted on 12/05/2004 5:55:08 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: AppyPappy
Might could happen; if mosquitoes can transmit other serologically bourne pathogens, why not AIDS?

If the female is shooed away before it gets a full tank, subsequent hosts could get something more out of the bite. (Be careful of the company you keep, IMHO.)

The problem is one of politics and attribution. First, it would be difficult to prove the mosquito was the vector, especially when so many 'more popular' vectors are available.

Second the PC rainbow nazis could never allow such a thought to get out. No one would want to be anywhere near the most likely carrier groups during bug season, and there would likely be enough public outcry for removing them from parks, etc.

It might hurt their little agenda.

47 posted on 12/05/2004 6:01:55 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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Advocacy groups blame a lack of federal money for part of the failure to make a dent in the HIV rate. .

It's Bush's fault /SARCASM

But really, I thought that there is now a trend for those homosexuals who do NOT have HIV to try and catch it. Sort of like joining a secret club, get on the AIDS cocktail bandwagon, since HIV is no longer a death sentence.

I believe reading a link from FR about "jump" parties - men go to a house for a weekend - have sexual with a large number of total strangers - and no one is allowed to know who has HIV. My question is - How do you stop someone from becoming infected with a disease, if they WANT to be infected and do EVERYTHING possible to get infected. Throw all the money you want at the problem, but it won't make any difference.

48 posted on 12/05/2004 6:10:49 AM PST by KosmicKitty (Well... There you go again!)
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To: OnlyinAmerica
Nearly a million Americans now have the AIDS

That is 1/295th of the US population. Obviously this is a much more severe issue than obesity, heart disease, high blood presure, sickle cell anemia, diabetes, cancer etc. When will we ever get our priorities right??

Sarcasm-hand wringing alert

49 posted on 12/05/2004 6:13:51 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Jaysun

Wouldn't that be 0.4 percent?


50 posted on 12/05/2004 6:17:30 AM PST by pfflier
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