Posted on 12/06/2004 9:12:18 AM PST by MississippiMasterpiece
And how would they compare to their counterparts who didn't take foreign spouses.
Look, I'm about as conservative as it gets on most issues. I'm glad to be home raising my kids. I frankly like the traditional delineation of roles in my marriage, though I recognize and respect not everyone wants that. And I'll admit to having something in common with my more liberal sisterhood and that is: no one treats me like a doormat, a maid, or a plaything. I'm not on this planet to bolster the sagging ego of any man, even if he happens to be my husband. That doesn't make me "unfit" to be a wife or mother, that doesn't make me "ungrateful". It makes me a thinking, confident women who understands her own worth and value. If men -- be they American, Japanese, Russian, or what have you -- don't understand this, that is their problem and loss.
I agree. Women need to be told they are beautiful from time to time. The old saying is true, Women give sex for love, and men give love for sex.
Well said!
Japanese women can be just as bitchy, naggy and otherwise unpleasant as their western counterparts and the stereotype of them as little, submissive domestic and sexual servants is pure BS, but there is one very real difference between them and American women. Japanese women are much more comfortable with traditional gender roles. They tend to respect men for being masculine and have no desire to be masculine themselves.
I believe it has more to do with why a person gets married not what country they come from.
Re: Post #129. Yes, please read it......
"Men and women should be equal...period. That goes for child rearing and working outside the home."
I was pointing out that it should be up to the couple, not you, to arrange their relationship, divide up chores and careers. The above statement is rigid, won't work for everyone, probably isn't desirable for everyone.
I get from your statement the impression that you look down on stay at home mothers.
My wife of 30 years is my best friend, which by definition makes us more or less equal. It's what I want in a wife. But people tend not to be exactly "equal," no matter the sex.
I tend to be comfdrtable with traditional male and female roles, as long as both sexes recieve equal respect.
I think my daughter is going to be a career woman, which is OK with me. As it will be if, once she has children, she decides to stay at home. Or not stay at home.
Well said!
Now THAT'S a good quote.
I was really not refering to just Japanese women, but to the trend of American men thinking foreign brides are perfect.
I don't really know many Western women with a chip on their shoulder about feminism.
I mean, they vote and make decisions for themselves without consulting a man, if that's the kind of feminism you're implying.
Leave it to me to say the decidedly un-PC. :o)
Re post 129... LOL
A few years ago, I went to the new Food Lion near me, and, while there, got myself and my wife the check cashing card. No big deal, just happened to do it.
Without going into details, let's just say I went looking for new grocery stores to get check cashing cards, if you know what I mean.
Thanks sweetie.
LOL...good one. I like that.
But define masculine. Does that mean wanting a careeer, or haivng goals that do not involve laundry? Does that mean likes to go hiking, hunting, or sky diving? Does masculine mean likes sports? Is there something wrong with American women who like sports, can and do use firearms and have dreams and goals of their own?
Then why did you use such a broad brush when you claimed that foreign spouses were marrying for green cards? You were wrong in two of three marriages in your own family.
Relating figures of American "spinsterhood" is smoke and mirrors. There are nearly 2 to 1 more women than men.
Wrong, read a census.
Further, and this won't sit well, some American women, when given the choice between marrying American Godlike Men and remaining single, have CHOSEN to remain single.
Well, no kidding?
Spinsters by choice are still spinsters, and they choose to remain single because they don't appreciate the men around them, which I've been saying.
Oh no, she married you for the green card, because you're clearly a beer-swilling caveman who couldn't buy an American date. LOL
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