Posted on 12/06/2004 12:44:58 PM PST by Lindykim
"Hope" is irrelevant - all that matters is what is. The only hope that Arafat had was to renounce idolatry and embrace Jesus Christ as savior. He did not do that, choosing instead to live a life of hatred. To hold the belief that Arafat is in hell, all that is required is a belief in God's word.
God / Jesus says that "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life - no man comes to the Father but by Me.
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. John 3:18-19
The time for hope was when Arafat was alive. Arafat is dead now and beyond hope. He IS in hell, regardless of what I hope.
Condemnation is the natural state of man, unless salvation through Christ intervenes.
Thank you!
Had not realised it was so wide-spread!
Since some our Marines have undoubtledly already taken over the place, it might not be such a bad place.
Not in my job description and my input is nether requested nor needed. I'm just glad that Arafat is no longer corrupting this world. I'm content with whatever decision the Judge of Judges makes regarding residence in the next world.
Purgation is the process whereby those destined for Heaven put on their wedding clothes.
and where is it mentioned in the Bible?
Define "Bible."
SD
No. Your soul never "dies" it is not esterminated.
Have you heard the phase, "Damn your soul to hell"
So, you are saying that if you go to heaven, great, you live on forever. If you go to hell, then you "disappear"?
That makes it easy doesn't it?
How about praying they don't go to Heaven?
We don't have to "hope", because we can be sure that unrepentant evil-doers will receive eternal justice. (Good phrase.) But as people here on Earth, we can never be sure that another person did not repent before his or her death.
Hell isn't eternal damnation. it is the end. It means there is no second chance. It's the final decision. It means death of your soul. The thinking of roasting forever in fire is a missinterpretation.
Not that I want to see this tread turn into bible class, but Sheesh! why don't you all pick up a bible and learn what it all means?
If you are not a Christian, don't bother telling anyone what you think the bible says.
First off, to be a Christian means you follow what the gospel says.
Dear wkdaysoff,
"Respectfully, as a Christian who is not Catholic.
"What is purgatory? and where is it mentioned in the Bible?"
Respectfully, as a Christian who is a Catholic, this is a political thread, I think, not a religious thread.
It isn't my interest to offer an apologia for the doctrine of Purgatory. I was merely noting that from what we believe, it's a bit easier to avoid hoping for the damnation of moral monsters.
sitetest
I always thought wedding clothes was being clothed with Christ at baptism. Gal 3
I have it on good authority that people definitely go to hell in NYC for stealing someone's taxi when it's raining, leaving less than 20% tip and admitting to having seen Cats on Broadway.
Check the link in post 78. The CCC doesn't always use the terms of the old scholastic-theology books, but I've seen the very words you used in one of my kids' pre-1950 religion books :-).
Yes, Christ died for all sins. Therefore, the issue is not sin, but what think ye of Christ. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and ye shall be saved.
esterminated = terminated
I don;t see why not!
Speak for yourself.
Correct!
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