Posted on 12/07/2004 7:28:32 PM PST by naturalman1975
Yeah, well he only said that cuz he's the President and he's not allowed to say what he really thinks, dontcha know?
>>Atheists, not Muslims, are anti-Christmas
Of course. Muslims want us to congregate in traditional (predictable) Christmas areas so their backpack bombs will be more effective. "Atheists" want us to stay home and forget Christmas.
"I tend to agree. There are a lot of newbies around lately who seem to be trying to live up to the liberal stereotypes of conservatives."
It's not good. FR got some great publicity leading up to the elections. When lurkers read these kinds of remarks, they go away and tell others.
FR doesn't need that kind of publicity. These bigoted remarks really need to stop.
As I suspected all along!
Good thing there's no such thing as PC here.
Could you try and not be quite so stupid.
Thank you.
btw - You might really enjoy post #188. I thought it was right-on.
>> Could you try and not be quite so stupid.
I will, but only if you can explain how my statement was stupid. Can you? I doubt it.
It's terrible to lump atheists in with the wackos who live by this garbage:
"Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (Koran 2:191)
"Ye are the best of peoples evolved for mankind." (Koran 3:110)
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and genitals cut off, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)
"Not to make friendship with Jews and Christians" (Koran 5:51)
"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)
"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)
"If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them [infidels]" (Koran 8:65).
Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (Koran 9:3)
"Fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (Koran 9:5)
Our God tells us to "fight the unbelievers" and "He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them" (Koran 9:14).
"Until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Koran 9:29)
"Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place" (9:39).
"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)
"Murder them and treat them harshly" (Koran 9:123)
"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:40)
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)
"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)
"strike off the heads of the disbelievers" (Koran 47:4)
"Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin." (Koran 69:30-37)
He can't. He's just trying to shut you up. Don't let him. You are right.
Muslims want us to congregate in traditional (predictable) Christmas areas so their backpack bombs will be more effective.
The Muslims do?
How about Mansour Al-Nogaidan or...say Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani? Do they?
Hear, hear! (ROFL)
LOL!
>> The Muslims do? How about Mansour Al-Nogaidan or...say Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani? Do they?
"Grand Ayatollah" Ali Sistani is an Iranian-born anti-Semitic and anti-American who opposed keeping American troops in Iraq after sovereignty was handed over to the Iraqis on June 30. Only a fool would trust Sistani with his/her life.
Mansour Al-Nogaidan is not a Muslim. He claims to be a Muslim, but he does not follow the Koran. If he followed the Koran he would be targeting me (and other Americans) with his explosive-laden backpack.
You're not seeing the same world that I am. The anti-Christmas crusade is led by the ACLU. Either a majority or a plurality of its members are Jewish. I know of no Muslims who are prominent members or leaders of the ACLU. If you do, please name them. But I know of lots of Jewish people who are prominent in the ACLU - and they're leading the anti-Christmas jihad.
If he followed the Koran he would be targeting me (and other Americans) with his explosive-laden backpack.
Riiiight.
It's very un-PC to say it, but the anti-Christmas crusade in America isn't led by Muslims, it's led by Jewish lawyers in the ACLU, or Jewish plaintiffs represented by the ACLU in their anti-Christmas lawsuits. Read the news reports.
Look in the mirror. You seem to want to destroy the freedom of religion we have in the United States.
There are fanatic Christians today... the people who have bombed abortion clinics and shot doctors who perform abortions, for instance, are religious terrorists are they not? What about Fred Phelps?
Yes. There are a very very few violent Christians DESPITE Christianity, just as there are a few non-violent Muslims DESPITE Islam.
So what? Are you, once again, presenting Christianity as the biggest threat to America and Islam as its savior?
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