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DISGRUNTLED TROOPS COMPLAIN TO RUMSFELD
WINS News ^ | 12/8/04

Posted on 12/08/2004 7:11:44 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: areafiftyone

This article, like the CNN article about this subject, really really edits out a lot of what Rumsfeld said. Both articles are designed to make him sound dismissive.

I have seen clips on Fox and CNN and he expounds much more than is indicated here.


41 posted on 12/08/2004 10:10:41 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: swatter
Why not ask tough questions?

Who said they shouldn't?

42 posted on 12/08/2004 10:11:27 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: areafiftyone

This is an AP hit-piece people! Nothing to see here, move along...the AP is trying to stir up the usual crock.


43 posted on 12/08/2004 10:12:13 AM PST by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: swatter

Never mind---I see who!

I agree with you, they are entitled to ask questions if they are in good faith.


44 posted on 12/08/2004 10:12:23 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

Why is that any surprise. You know the MSM motive. Especially CNN..


45 posted on 12/08/2004 10:12:39 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

No surprise, just pointing it out.


46 posted on 12/08/2004 10:13:18 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: areafiftyone

When WWII began, there were no B17 G's...


47 posted on 12/08/2004 10:14:22 AM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: texasborn1960
"Those in congress who voted for BILLIONS in pork need to be arrested for treason"

And let not forget the free traders that sent all or manurfactoring to China, now it appears we can not product the armor our guys need. Way to go free traitors.

48 posted on 12/08/2004 10:15:58 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Made in USA

I assume you referred to the fight on Omaha Beach because there was a Guard outfit in it, the Stonewall Brigade? They sure got one hell of a welcome to WWII. Made old Stonewall proud, I'm sure.


49 posted on 12/08/2004 10:24:02 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: hushpad
Since the time of the Romans, it has been a soldier's right to complain. I see nothing wrong with that. These men are dieing over there; the least we should do is listen to their complaints and try to be less judgemental.

You all say it, but it sounds like you do not live up to your words when you say you support our troops.

50 posted on 12/08/2004 10:33:37 AM PST by Jack of Diamonds
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To: texasborn1960
Sorry, but I am not going to accept any excuse for why they military doesn't have exactly what it needs while we are wasting 10 of billions of dollars on pork projects.

BUMP

51 posted on 12/08/2004 10:36:11 AM PST by eyespysomething (It's the most wonderful time of the year!)
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To: areafiftyone
Rumsfeld - "You go to war with the Army you have,"
What an idiotic thing to say. He's lost it IMHO and should be removed by Bush immediately. Only Bush Administration true believers can defend a stupid statement like that. These guys are dying and Rumsfeld can't control his baby boy temper!
52 posted on 12/08/2004 10:40:49 AM PST by afz400
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To: afz400

Hey great impression of a Kerry-backing screaming Liberal.

Do you do any other impressions?


53 posted on 12/08/2004 10:57:07 AM PST by MaineRepublic (Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides)
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To: pepsionice
There should have been a Army 0-6 appointed 12 months ago...and given the money fix every vehicle in 120 days.<<

Yes, that should have happened. Airing grievances in the public/world forum is not the way to get it fixed. I don't call the newspaper every time I'm disgruntled at the dealership service department.

The Military has a chain of Command that does not include the MSM.

BTW In the Civil War, Soldiers fought in bare feet, bloodied by their own movements. In WWII, there were shortages on the Front as well as at home. Everyone bore the HARDSHIP of WAR, without belly-aching where the enemy can hear.

Sorry if ya'll dont like my opinion, but that's all it is.
54 posted on 12/08/2004 11:07:43 AM PST by hushpad
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To: Jack of Diamonds
Since the time of the Romans, it has been a soldier's right to complain. I see nothing wrong with that. <<<<

I DONT EITHER. NOTHING WRONG WITH COMPLAINING.


These men are dieing over there; the least we should do is listen to their complaints and try to be less judgemental.

IF WE HEAR THE COMPLAINTS, THE ENEMY HEARS THEM AS WELL - SO MORE MEN ARE PROBABLY DIEING AS A RESULT - THE ENEMY KNOWS OUR WEAKNESS WHEN IT IS PUBLISIZED.
55 posted on 12/08/2004 11:10:01 AM PST by hushpad
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To: hushpad

Then Rummy should have kept the Q&A session private. You can't blame the troops for his poor security.


56 posted on 12/08/2004 11:17:53 AM PST by Jack of Diamonds
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To: Jack of Diamonds
You can't blame the troops for his poor security<<<

I don't blame "the troops", JD. I blame those particular troops that felt the need to publicize this . . to put Military Command on the spot . .to call in the media, probably with the help of liberals/democrats in high places. Bush haters using weak troops to do their dirty work and make our Military look weak and ineffective.

BTW, how do we know that this is all not part of a "Campaign of misinformation"?
57 posted on 12/08/2004 11:22:02 AM PST by hushpad
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To: MJM59

What this administration knows about warfighting is causing Patton to spin in his grave<<

What more than a few posters on this forum know about warfighting. . . .


58 posted on 12/08/2004 11:26:04 AM PST by hushpad
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To: hushpad

I am sorry. Did I break a commandment by questioning the wisdom of your hero GWB. What is it, Thou shalt not question this administration?


59 posted on 12/08/2004 11:41:55 AM PST by MJM59
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To: MJM59

I don't know about you guys but I didn't care much for some of the answers that Rumsfeld gave to the troops. I really feel bad for them, they put their lives on the line for this country and Rumsfeld acts like it's no big deal. Does Rumsfeld care at all for these soldiers?


60 posted on 12/08/2004 12:52:31 PM PST by JJDPower
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