The Religious Cult of Evolution Fights Back

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HARRISBURG, PA-The American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, Americans United for Separation of Church and State and attorneys with Pepper Hamilton LLP filed a federal lawsuit today on behalf of 11 parents who say that presenting "intelligent design" in public school science classrooms violates their religious liberty by promoting particular religious beliefs to their children under the guise of science education.

"Teaching students about religion's role in world history and culture is proper, but disguising a particular religious belief as science is not," said ACLU of Pennsylvania Legal Director Witold Walczak. "Intelligent design is a Trojan Horse for bringing religious creationism back into public school science classes."

The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Americans United Executive Director, added, "Public schools are not Sunday schools, and we must resist any efforts to make them so. There is an evolving attack under way on sound science...Read More

[jer33 3]

Either way, one day you live every other human being WILL meet your Creator and be accountable.

[jwalsh07]

Since you offered the above rant instead of correcting me, I assume that this is an admission that The Church has accepted science and evolution.

Are you for real?

Here, let me give you an example. The Catholic Church accepts as good science the fact that new life starts at conception.

For that reason Catholic dogma teaches that abortion is a grave sin.

Amazing, huh?

[WildTurkey]

I see you are carefully avoiding The Church's views on evolution. hmmm.

[jwalsh07]

The Catholic Church accepts evolution as a mechanism that God uses, they utterly reject Natural Humanism.

[jwalsh07]

I see you are avoiding the claim that energy and matter can be created. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[WildTurkey]

The Catholic Church accepts evolution as a mechanism that God uses, they utterly reject Natural Humanism.

Good. Do you believe that?

[WildTurkey]

I see you are avoiding the claim that energy and matter can be created.

Uh, my statement was that energy have be created from matter and matter created from energy. The Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy.

[jwalsh07]

I have no doubt that microevolution is good science. I have major doubts about a single cell arising through abiogenesis being the common ancestor for all living things.

I have faith that God created the Universe and the mechanisms he used are up to him.

[jwalsh07]

But you said matter could not be created nor destroyed. Science says otherwise as you now admit.

This is what you said. The statement is a declarative sentence and it is wrong.

The Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can change its form.

The total quantity of matter and energy available in the universe is a fixed amount and never any more or less.

This is the science as I know it. If you can create matter and energy ex nihlo, then you win the prize.

[jwalsh07]

Now for you:

What did the quantum fluctuation fluctuate before time, space, matter and the Laws of Physics?

[puroresu]

####And evolution. They have learned the hard way#####


Assuming that's a reference to Galileo, it should not be forgotten that the Catholic Church did not get the idea of an earth-centered universe from the Bible. They got it from the dominant intellectuals of the day. It was a non-Christian, Ptolemy, who theorized an earth-centered universe many centuries earlier and, like evolution today, it became dogma to such a degree that even the Church adopted it. Copernicus was the first to challenge Ptolemy's view, followed by Galileo.

So the lesson of Galileo might be for the Church to resist adopting ideas simply because all the "better people" believe them.

[WildTurkey]

I have major doubts about a single cell arising through abiogenesis being the common ancestor for all living things.

But you do accept that it may have happened. Actually, from "a single cell" may be too strict.

[jwalsh07]

You mean the universe is NOT Geocentric?????????????

[WildTurkey]

The Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can change its form.

That is the old law. It was replaced based on better knowlege with the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy. Energy CAN be created from mass (mass is destroyed) and Mass can be created from energy (energy is destroyed).

[jwalsh07]

But you do accept that it may have happened. Actually, from "a single cell" may be too strict.

Yes, I accept that it may have happened. I have an open mind about such things.

Do you accept that creation may have been the work of a Creator?

[jwalsh07]

Nothing is destroyed, it changes form. E=mc^2, keep that in mind and you won't get lost.

[puroresu]

Nope! LOL!

But I suppose humanism might be comfortable with an earth-centered universe. If man is without God, we may as well occupy the center.

[RussP]

"Do you know what "idiot savant" means?"

Do you know what "idiot" means?

[Dimensio]

id·i·ot
n.


1. A foolish or stupid person.
2. A person of profound mental retardation having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to learn connected speech or guard against common dangers. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

[WildTurkey]

It was a non-Christian, Ptolemy, who theorized an earth-centered universe many centuries earlier

Actually, Ptolemy recognized that the sun did not rotate around the earth and that the earth did not rotate around the sun but they both rotated about a point inbetween. His mathematics were far ahead of the time.