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Democrats: King County recount puts Gregoire on top (Official results release 12/22 3:30 pm)
San Diego Tribune ^ | Dec. 21, 2004 | AP

Posted on 12/21/2004 9:10:56 PM PST by FairOpinion

The head of the state Democratic Party said late Tuesday that recount results from King County give Democrat Christine Gregoire an eight-vote victory in the closest governor's race in state history.

The county has finished tallying its 900,000 ballots, but election officials said they still need to reconcile differences in the precinct totals.

"We are not releasing our results until tomorrow at 3:30 p.m.," said King County Elections spokeswoman Bobbie Egan, who confirmed that both parties received the recount data Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: dinorossi; governor; gregoire; race; recount; rossi; washington
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It's not over 'til it's over.

We'll see what the "final" results are tomorrow, Wed. 3:30 pm ( I presume they mean local time)

1 posted on 12/21/2004 9:10:57 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

This is an update to the earlier news. I figured people may not see it a post buried in the earlier thread and this article contains quite a bit more information.


2 posted on 12/21/2004 9:12:03 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Ah, yes. Count and count until you "find" the "right" amount of votes. I guess the Republican candidate can at least be grateful the Dims didn't poison him with Dioxin like those Ukranians pranksters, huh?


3 posted on 12/21/2004 9:16:03 PM PST by SugarLandTexas (I demand a recount... only because the first count was so much fun.)
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To: FairOpinion

But .. we understand why they counted King County last .. because they knew they could CHEAT!! Glad I don't live in WA.


4 posted on 12/21/2004 9:17:09 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: FairOpinion

In a word, Yuck.


5 posted on 12/21/2004 9:19:37 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: CyberAnt

I've said it before: King County has more than three times as many registered voters as the next three counties combined. That's why it takes them so much longer to count.

There's plenty to be suspicious about. This isn't something to be suspicious about.


6 posted on 12/21/2004 9:20:48 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (We're none of us prefect.)
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To: FairOpinion

as someone else observed recently, you DO have strange methods of snipping "excerpts".

full article:

8:39 p.m. December 21, 2004

OLYMPIA, Wash. – The head of the state Democratic Party said late Tuesday that recount results from King County give Democrat Christine Gregoire an eight-vote victory in the closest governor's race in state history.

Neither King County nor the Republican party could confirm the hand recount results on Tuesday night. But if the Democrats' analysis is correct, it's a stunning reversal in the gubernatorial race, which has been hotly contested ever since election day.

Republican Dino won the first count by 261 votes and won a machine recount by 42 votes.

"We're confident Christine Gregoire has been elected the governor of the state of Washington," Democratic Chairman Paul Berendt said. "I believe Dino Rossi should concede."

Berendt and Democratic party officials reached their conclusion after crunching numbers supplied by King County. The county has finished tallying its 900,000 ballots, but election officials said they still need to reconcile differences in the precinct totals.

"We are not releasing our results until tomorrow at 3:30 p.m.," said King County Elections spokeswoman Bobbie Egan, who confirmed that both parties received the recount data Tuesday.

Rossi spokeswoman Mary Lane said Republicans are looking at the data also but had not drawn any conclusions. "It's just too close to call," she said.


8 posted on 12/21/2004 9:23:44 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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I just realized something:

The county has finished tallying its 900,000 ballots, but election officials said they still need to reconcile differences in the precinct totals.

If they still have reconciliation to do, that could wipe out an eight-vote lead in a county the size of King. I think in Spokane County, reconciliation of just the poll site votes led to a two- or three- vote swing.

9 posted on 12/21/2004 9:26:48 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (We're none of us prefect.)
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To: FairOpinion

Methinks shysterism is afoot!

Send those ballots down to Florida to count.


10 posted on 12/21/2004 9:31:52 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: FairOpinion

This whole ordeal is just sickening. I hope we get a revote. The polls show that the Dems will loose big if we do. If not, I can only hope that this cloud has a silver lining: That the fine folks of this state, including the well-meaning Gregoire voters, don't forget how sickening the Dems and King County Elections have behaved and throw their cheating arses out of office next go round.


11 posted on 12/21/2004 9:32:10 PM PST by lil varmint
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To: Baynative

Well, DUHHH -- were you expecting something DIFFERENT?


12 posted on 12/21/2004 9:32:40 PM PST by SAJ
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

http://www.komotv.com/stories/34500.htm

Here's a different story.....

Democrats' Leader Says Gregoire Wins Recount By 8 Votes

December 21, 2004

By KOMO Staff & News Services


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OLYMPIA - The head of the state Democratic Party said late Tuesday that recount results from King County give Democrat Christine Gregoire an eight-vote victory in the closest governor's race in state history.

Neither King County nor the Republican party could confirm the hand recount results on Tuesday night. But if the Democrats' analysis is correct, it's a stunning reversal in the gubernatorial race, which has been hotly contested ever since election day.

Republican Dino Rossi won the first count by 261 votes and won a machine recount by 42 votes, out of 2.9 million ballots cast.

"We're confident Christine Gregoire has been elected the governor of the state of Washington," Democratic Chairman Paul Berendt said. "I believe Dino Rossi should concede."

Berendt and Democratic party officials reached their conclusion after crunching numbers supplied by King County. The county has finished tallying its 900,000 ballots, but election officials said they still need to reconcile differences in the precinct totals.

"We are not releasing our results until tomorrow at 3:30 p.m.," said King County Elections spokeswoman Bobbie Egan, who confirmed that both parties received the recount data Tuesday.

Rossi spokeswoman Mary Lane said Republicans are also looking at the data but had not drawn any conclusions. "It's just too close to call," she said.

The Rossi camp has said that if it lost the third count it might challenge the election in court, and Republicans were already preparing for a possible legal challenge. Gregoire had promised to concede if she lost the recount.

Berendt's contention that the race had been decided came one day before the state Supreme Court was to hear arguments on whether King County - which is solidly Democratic - should be allowed to add to its recount 700-plus ballots that weren't counted originally because of mistakes made by county election workers.

A Pierce County judge on Friday granted the state Republican Party's motion for a temporary restraining order to stop King County from counting those newly discovered ballots. King County, the state Democratic Party and the Secretary of State appealed the case to the state Supreme Court.

Seven justices will hear the case. Three of the regular nine justices are out of town on previously scheduled trips, and one temporary judge will join the court.

About 350 people gathered Tuesday in front of the Supreme Court to show support for Rossi at a rally sponsored by KVI-AM, a conservative talk-radio station.

The crowd chanted "No new votes!" and "No more fraud!" They held signs saying "Welcome to Ukraine" and wore orange, a tribute to the signature color of demonstrators in Ukraine who protested a fraud-marred election there.




13 posted on 12/21/2004 9:38:34 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: FairOpinion

I just posted this explanation of "reconciliation" on the Washington board:

In any case where precinct totals are different between the recount and the hand count, there is a investigation into why.

Sometimes, it turns out that the hand count number is right.

Frequently, however, it happens that a ballot got counted for the wrong candidate.

Depending on how many precincts still need to be reconciled, a net nine-vote swing would not be surprising.


14 posted on 12/21/2004 9:39:02 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (We're none of us prefect.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I excerpted to focus on the new information, which was that the 8 vote win is by no means final -- the Dems say that, but it's not confirmed.


15 posted on 12/21/2004 9:48:09 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Count it again...


16 posted on 12/21/2004 9:48:21 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: FairOpinion

I have it on good authority (from someone in the state GOP) that King County double-counted some precincts in the first recount. Those extra votes should be subtracted during the reconciliation process.

Statistically, once would expect that to be bad news for Gregoire.


17 posted on 12/21/2004 10:11:00 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane (We're none of us prefect.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I would love to see the Dems lose and not be allowed to get away with any more fraud.


18 posted on 12/21/2004 10:16:47 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

There is something fishy about this "number crunching" by the Demonrats. I do not expect Sam Reed, the Washington Secretary of State, to certify this recount until the numbers are correct. Then, the call for a revote will get louder.


19 posted on 12/21/2004 10:20:46 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: FairOpinion

I wish San Diego would keep it's nose OUT of our elections. They have enough on their own plate! Lame article, btw.


20 posted on 12/21/2004 10:21:56 PM PST by Just Lori (I stand behind our troops, but I'd rather stand BESIDE them!)
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