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Voting Problems in Ohio Spur Call for Overhaul
NY Times ^ | December 24, 2004 | JAMES DAO, FORD FESSENDEN and TOM ZELLER Jr.

Posted on 12/24/2004 6:38:29 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 12/24/2004 6:38:29 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Strange there are no stories of voting problems elsewhere in the 50 states. Only in Ohio. Hmmmm.


2 posted on 12/24/2004 6:49:46 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: neverdem
Mr. Shambora, an economics professor at Ohio University, moved during the summer but failed to notify the Athens County Board of Elections until the day before the presidential election.

I bet he thought it was important enough to tell almost everyone else on earth that he had moved, but he takes no personal responsibility for not notifying the election board in time?

3 posted on 12/24/2004 6:54:47 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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Strange also how the last Great East Coast Power Blackout got it's start just 15 miles outside Shaker Heights where HILLARY had blasted BUSH over his Energy Policies at her booksinging the night before..?

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4 posted on 12/24/2004 6:55:21 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.comi)
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To: MisterRepublican
Strange there are no stories of voting problems elsewhere in the 50 states. Only in Ohio. Hmmmm.

Well! One person screwed up and couldn't vote right! That's all the proof I need! Kerry won!

5 posted on 12/24/2004 6:55:59 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: neverdem
I guess we should start voting now for the 2008 presidential election.That way we should be able to vote enough times to actually do it according to the laws that pertain in a given state.
I don`t wish to offend anyone but why is it that the word professor could be substituted with "educated f.... idiot" so often.
6 posted on 12/24/2004 7:02:41 PM PST by carlr
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To: neverdem
Apparently, for whatever reason, Kerry voters simply couldn't vote as fast, or as accurately, as Bush voters. The thing to do is spend a couple-of-million taxpayer dollars at left-leaning universities to identify this disenfranchising phenomenon:)
7 posted on 12/24/2004 7:03:21 PM PST by Swampmarine
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To: neverdem

I only have one word for this type of article and the people who write and publish it:

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8 posted on 12/24/2004 7:16:30 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: MisterRepublican

Only in Red states, Elections with far slimmer margins went perfectly it would seem (as long as they went to the Dems).

One thing is clear: Provisional ballots are the source of all kinds of problems and should be outlawed.

Absentee is bad enough, they all have to be hand checked, but this idea that you can wander in just anywhere and vote has got to stop. If even 10% of the voters decided to vote via provisional ballot the entire system would grind to a halt due to the manual effort required.

The rule should be (as it was for 200 years): You vote at your designated polling place or have the presence of mind to vote absentee EARLY, or you don't vote at all.


9 posted on 12/24/2004 7:18:31 PM PST by konaice
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To: neverdem
Speaking for my people, it is 4 degrees F. outside, and voting has not been on the RADAR for weeks.

There is a blip, which U.S. Air Force jet fighters believe, is some kind of sleigh in shape, yet they cannot catch it.

Meanwhile, here, there are just over 200,000 people who do not have electrical power. Area hotels and motels are full.

Electrical generators have been shipped into the area by the thousands, but in the outlying areas to the east and northeast, the situation is very bad.

The many streets that the city of Columbus has not plowed, are large chunks or near-ice bergs, while some roads and highway stretches have been well-plowed by the State and counties around here.

One of the problems, is also that the power went out to numerous food stores, and several hundred tons of food were in marginal shape, could be cooked, if done yesterday or today.

From the air, utter darkness prevails in areas, where tens of thousands of people are trying to tough it out.

The hospitals are averaging approx. 1 case of carbon monoxide poisoning per hour.

People in the rural areas, who had thought they could rely on cell phones, in time of trouble, have no power generation with which to make them function. Much venturing for batteries, today.

Voting, again, is not on anybody's mind.

10 posted on 12/24/2004 7:22:52 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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Who cares. This stuff happens all the time everywhere. When the guy moved he should have checked up on his voting status, not during the election.

I moved 2 years ago, and was aware of where I should vote right after I moved. You are right about one thing for sure. Lets assume I would have been irresponsible like this guy. Since I live in VA I would have gotten NO press attention!
11 posted on 12/24/2004 7:23:22 PM PST by KoRn
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To: OrangeDaisy

Another liberal absent-minded professor thinks all the rules
shouldn't apply to him.

First law of economics: ''Actions have consequences.""


12 posted on 12/24/2004 7:25:36 PM PST by plangent
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To: neverdem

Economics professor and he is too stupid to vote. Sounds like he just might be a democrat.


13 posted on 12/24/2004 7:28:56 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: neverdem
One thing about the Dems complaining about votes not being counted and such, things will be changed to please them and it will make it nearly impossible for them to steal the elections from now on.

I find it very odd that they had no complaints about votes not being counted when they were winning.

14 posted on 12/24/2004 7:29:14 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: MisterRepublican

I guess the states Kerry won had no problems whatsoever!!


15 posted on 12/24/2004 7:29:33 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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Strange there are no stories of voting problems elsewhere in the 50 states. Only in Ohio. Hmmmm.

Was that sarcasm? Because you might want to look a bit West to Washington state. There is a voting problem there right now. A big problem.
16 posted on 12/24/2004 7:35:13 PM PST by Zarro
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NY Times ^ | December 24, 2004 | JAMES DAO, FORD FESSENDEN and TOM ZELLER Jr.

Hey a$$holes, how about coming to my State and turning some attention to a genuinely corrupt election where - instead of a few hundred mis-cast ballots in an election where the loss was over 100,000, there are all sorts of magically appearing ballots where the loss has fluctuated between 2 votes and 130? 

17 posted on 12/24/2004 7:36:02 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Zarro

He was pointing out what I just pointed out.


18 posted on 12/24/2004 7:36:52 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: OrangeDaisy

My thoughts EXACTLY. The presidential election has dominated the news for the past year, year and a half, and this erudite academic doesn't have the sense to register to vote in his new precinct? If he's that stupid, he doesn't deserve to vote in a presidential election.


19 posted on 12/24/2004 7:41:07 PM PST by Juana la Loca
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To: MisterRepublican

In case you just emerged from a month or so living in a deep cave, they seem to be having some sort of minor difficulty in Washington state. On this topic, we had a local race problem here, county office.

First the loser called for a recount, now has filed a lawsuit. I was personally involved in the recount, and bless us, our county uses optical scan ballots. The ballot is its own paper trail, and even most idiot voters come close enough a bipartisan counting team could nearly always agree on "intent of the voter". The handful of ballots this was not true of were not nearly enough to change the result. Loser's suit is based on other allegations, in my opinion, most unlikely to succeed. I cannot tell you how glad I am we had the simple, strightforward op-scan ballot, saved us a host of problems.

One thing I will point out as a long time poll worker: multiply 3,500+ counties nationwide by number of precincts by number of clerks in each and I'm guessing maybe 300,000 election workers nationwide, mostly benefitting from perhaps 4 hours of clerk training. Then throw in this bastard son of HAVA known as the conditional vote, something most of us are seeing for the first time and apply it to a bunch of different ballot styles not to mention machines I don't trust as far as I can throw them...well, I'm astonished things went as well as they seem to have.


20 posted on 12/24/2004 7:41:23 PM PST by barkeep
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