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Voting Problems in Ohio Spur Call for Overhaul
NY Times ^ | December 24, 2004 | JAMES DAO, FORD FESSENDEN and TOM ZELLER Jr.

Posted on 12/24/2004 6:38:29 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem
I wonder why most of the biggest problems seem to be in the RAT controlled districts!!

They are still figuring out how to do election stealing better - but they haven't quite managed to do it yet.

21 posted on 12/24/2004 7:51:41 PM PST by LADY J
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To: neverdem
It seems like such a confused system," said Mr. Shambora, a John Kerry supporter who blames himself for the mistake

this guy's got it right....so why is there a story here ?
22 posted on 12/24/2004 7:54:20 PM PST by stylin19a (Marines - end of discussion)
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To: neverdem
Clearly, this economics professor who can't figure out how to get his vote counted needs help. We should provide some suggestions he might understand so as not to repeat this tragedy in 2008. 1. Mandate that all high school seniors, in suburban areas only, be given courses in proper chad hanging procedures. Clearly, it's an unfair advantage that the more rural areas punch their cards ALL the way through thereby getting counted in higher percentages than other, more deserving areas. :)
23 posted on 12/24/2004 7:56:37 PM PST by Swampmarine
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To: MisterRepublican

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That's Shaker Heights, OHIO, the heart of HILLARY for President Territory.

A HILLARY that pledged the day after she was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2000 that she would destroy the Electoral College.

And now Friend of HILLARY Sen. DIANE FEINSTEIN has just begun this quest for her this very week by promising to introduce legislation for a Constitutinal Amendment that would do just that.

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24 posted on 12/24/2004 7:56:54 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.comi)
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To: neverdem

You can't help but wonder where the democrats are going to get the money to keep buying votes. They keep this up and what will actually happen is voting will become so tight the dems will never be able to steal an election ever again.


25 posted on 12/24/2004 7:56:58 PM PST by McGavin999 (Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld hide)
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To: MisterRepublican
Strange there are no stories of voting problems elsewhere in the 50 states. Only in Ohio. Hmmmm.

Actually, a good number of these fruitcake dems and their green and libertarian friends think there was also fraud in FL, NM and NV. It's just that the lion's share of the focus is on OH since it was the only decisive state that was "close." So there you have it, folks--there was (fictitious) fraud in OH, FL, NM and NV, but none of the 46 other states + D.C. What a cute coincidence that they only are eyeing states that Bush won narrowly. I'm surprised they haven't screeched about IA.

Interesting how these people, who have such a hard time believing that Bush won what is the most republican of the 1st-tier swing states, conveniently ignore the fact that Bush improved his totals in so many states, even those he lost resoundingly last time and this time around. So it's not surprising he did better in places (he ended up winning) like NM, IA and FL. He still did very well in OH considering the fact that Nader got around 2.5% in 2000 and wasn't on the ticket this time, and most of his votes probably went to Kerry. Maybe if it wasn't for the mediocre job situation, Bush would have done even better.

26 posted on 12/24/2004 8:00:01 PM PST by gop_gene
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To: MisterRepublican
William Shambora, 53, is the kind of diligent voter who once assumed that his ballot always counted. He got a rude awakening this year.

Mr. Shambora, an economics professor at Ohio University, moved during the summer but failed to notify the Athens County Board of Elections until the day before the presidential election. An official told him to use a provisional ballot.

But under Ohio law, provisional ballots are valid only when cast from a voter's correct precinct. Mr. Shambora was given a ballot for the wrong precinct, a fact he did not learn until after the election.

So, this "diligent voter" doesn't notify the board of elections when he moves, and then fails to notice that his ballot is for the wrong precinct???

Don't sound too diligent to me

27 posted on 12/24/2004 8:04:46 PM PST by Homer1
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To: KoRn
When the guy moved he should have checked up on his voting status

Bingo! My daughter moved from Connecticut to St Louis in August. Within of 2 weeks of trying to get settled in a new home & starting her new job, she registered to vote. It was top priority with her. And I was here to remind her just in case. Apparently voting was not high on the professor's list of important things to take care. This is just appalling that he gets to be the lead in this newspaper article on voting irregularities. Why can't someone ever just write an article on IRRESPONSIBLE VOTERS!

28 posted on 12/24/2004 8:06:42 PM PST by nana4bush
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To: KoRn

Seems like he still lived in the same county. I was in the same situation about twenty years ago, so I just drove to my old precinct, and voted.

I guess the Professor was just to smart to do that.

Why does it seem that all voting "irregularities" take place in counties with Democratic administrations?

Long lines, found ballots after the count, "hanging chads", people at the wrong polling places, endless recounts, and the one I love best...determining the "intent" of the voter where no mark was made on the ballot.


29 posted on 12/24/2004 8:25:59 PM PST by rock58seg (Real Conservatives don't care what McCain thinks.)
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To: neverdem

An economics professor? I'll give him an "S" for stupidity. He really does belong in Florida. At least down there he would be rubbing elbows with those who also think they were disenfranchised.


30 posted on 12/24/2004 10:03:39 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: neverdem
When your base is made up from the stupid ect ect.
31 posted on 12/24/2004 11:07:10 PM PST by Domangart
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To: neverdem

What about Wisconsin or Penn.? Oh Kerry won there.


32 posted on 12/24/2004 11:20:10 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: rlmorel
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAA....

What's the point of such an exclamation, laugh, etc. You offset my pings and there's no picture or anything to look at. That's not very polite at Christmas.

33 posted on 12/24/2004 11:44:06 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: LADY J

Just watch, after they reform the Ohio system, they'll be able to cheat easier. Reforming the system means ensuring that dims receive a vote regardless who the voter intended to vote for.

Do you wish to vote for:

John Kerry

or

John Kerry

or

John Kerry


34 posted on 12/25/2004 12:34:30 AM PST by trailboss800
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To: neverdem
William Shambora, 53, is the kind of diligent voter who once assumed that his ballot always counted. He got a rude awakening this year. Mr. Shambora, an economics professor at Ohio University, moved during the summer but failed to notify the Athens County Board of Elections until the day before the presidential election.

If Bill is a diligent voter, I'd hate to see what the Times thinks is a lazy whiner.

35 posted on 12/25/2004 5:05:28 AM PST by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: neverdem

The verdict is in: there was NO VOTE FRAUD in Ohio despite the efforts of politically motivated opponents to show it existed. So far there's been more hot air than facts. And certainly nothing that requires Congress to overturn the election results when it meets in joint session on Jan. 6th to count the electoral votes.


36 posted on 12/25/2004 5:23:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
Funny that these voting systems were just fine to elect Clinton 2 times. No one was complaining then. Only when a Demorat looses is there claims of system failures and the need to fix them.
37 posted on 12/25/2004 5:35:26 AM PST by truthandlogic
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To: neverdem

Two weeks later, the board discarded his vote, adding him to a list of more than 300 provisional ballots that were rejected in that heavily Democratic county.

"It seems like such a confused system," said Mr. Shambora, a John Kerry supporter who blames himself for the mistake. "Maybe if enough people's votes had counted, the election might have turned out differently."

At a rate of 300 per county I don't think that Ferry could make up the 120,000 difference.


38 posted on 12/25/2004 8:34:45 AM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: neverdem

Well, I sure do apologize. Being a relative newbie here, I am not sure what "offset the pings" means other than pad your pings with something relatively inane (which I readily admit, my post was). Of course, that was the whole point anyway since I thought the original article was completely inane and unworthy of the space it occupies on the printed page on on the Internet.

Just my opinion, of course, nothing personal.

You didn't even post anything with the article to prime the pump, so to speak, so I just took the article where I thought it should go! If it was not where you intended, sorry bout that.

And a Merry Christmas to you!


39 posted on 12/25/2004 11:28:06 AM PST by rlmorel
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