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Vatican raps Israel for 'denying disaster'
J Post ^ | 29 dec 04 | Staff

Posted on 12/29/2004 4:37:34 AM PST by white trash redneck

The Vatican newspaper has denounced what it called a decision by the IDF to deny emergency help to disaster victims in Sri Lanka.

Calling for "a radical and dramatic change of perspective" among people "too often preoccupied with making war," L'Osservatore Romano singled out Israeli military leaders for declining a request for emergency medical help.

Contrary to the Vatican report, an Israeli plane carrying 80 tons of food and medical supplies worth $100,000 was set to depart for Sri Lanka Wednesday morning. At the request of the Sri Lankan Foreign Ministry, a team of some 150 Israeli medical and security personnel aborted their planned trip to the island nation Tuesday night.

The Vatican paper observed that in what "should be a time for unconditional solidarity," some world leaders seem incapable of escaping a "small-minded approach that restricts their horizons."

The fact that the devastation swept across different societies, cultures, and nations should help to reinforce the universal perspective, the paper suggested. (Jerusalem Post staff and agencies)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: humanitarianrelief; idf; israel; judeophobes; judeophobia; leftisttalkingpoints; loginthyowneye; pontificating; reliefindulgences; romancatholicism; srilanka; sumatraquake; tsunami; vatican; victimology101; vmaryinmyoatmeal
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To: Mike Bates

As a Catholic of 70 Years and with the recent history of Sexual abuse in the Church, I believe the infallibility of the Pope is seriously in question.

Between the pope and his Henchmen in the vatican they have seriously undermind the credibility and stature of the Catholic Church and continue to do so.

The church has a long way to go to clean up their own mess before sending out critical and dumb remarks about some one else.


41 posted on 12/29/2004 6:24:25 AM PST by chatham
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To: Convert from ECUSA

No kidding.


42 posted on 12/29/2004 6:25:28 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah!!!)
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To: chatham
As a Catholic of 70 Years and with the recent history of Sexual abuse in the Church, I believe the infallibility of the Pope is seriously in question.

You have no idea what Papal infallibility really means, apparently. It has nothing whatsoever to do with prudential judgements, or the lack thereof. It applies only to select matters of faith and morals.

That said, the Pope is ill-served by many of the Euro cardinals who surround him. Many are downright anti-semitic and anti-American.

43 posted on 12/29/2004 6:28:17 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: chris1

Indeed, things like this keep me wondering how I managed to cross the Tiber at all! I have to keep reminding myself that there is the real Church and the CINOs-euroweenies in the hierarchy. The CINOs-euroweenies are the ones that seem to have all the microphones and newspapers, unfortunately!


44 posted on 12/29/2004 6:28:57 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: SirLurkedalot

Really. I've carried a number of things with me when I crossed the Tiber from Protestant Christianity. One of them was/is that if the "liberal" (i.e., radical, anti-US, anti-Israel, water-down-doctrine, etc.) CINO wing of any part of Christianity criticizes the US and Israel for anything, then I'll automatically support the US and Israel. A variation on my theory that if the Euroweenie-libs in the Vatican, the ECUSA HQ in NYC, and similar sorts in other denominations disapprove of something, then what they disapprove of is likely something very good that deserves my support!


45 posted on 12/29/2004 6:36:23 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: wolfpat

"Isn't the Bible pretty clear in its direction to support Israel?"

Yes, it is very clear. Individual have only two choices. To either bless or curse Israel, nothing in between. Those who curse her, God promises to curse them. Those who Bless her, God promises to bless. The next question is where is your absolute final authority, in God's Holy Bible or in Man.

The longer one puts off putting his faith in God's Holy Word, the better chance they have or their heart's being hardened, their eyes growing dark and never being able to see the truth again. God is slow to anger, but time is running out.


46 posted on 12/29/2004 6:41:08 AM PST by Esther Ruth (Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

The Great Apostasy bump. We're watching it.


47 posted on 12/29/2004 6:41:38 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah!!!)
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To: sinkspur

The Pope is a human being appointed to that position by human beings. Even in teachings and interpretations, do you truly believe that human error does or cannot play a part????

As a lifelong Catholic, the church has become an utter disgrace and embarasment, on almost everything.


48 posted on 12/29/2004 6:44:05 AM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: wolfpat

I think a relative tangent to your question is the make up of the early church. Until Paul actively started evangalizing to the gentiles, the church was made up of almost all Jewish people. Peter of course was Jewish and he is the rock upon which the church is built.


49 posted on 12/29/2004 6:47:08 AM PST by CriticalJ (Ecc 10:2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.)
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To: zip

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?


50 posted on 12/29/2004 6:50:49 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: chris1
Even in teachings and interpretations, do you truly believe that human error does or cannot play a part????

The actual dogma of Papal infallibility has been used exactly ONCE since it was defined: the Assumption of Mary (not exactly an earthshaking decree). But, you demonstrate how the doctrine seems to waft out over everything the Pope or the Vatican says and does.

If you are embarrassed that human beings make up the Church, and, as human beings, will often act like human beings, perhaps you should find a Church already made up of saints.

51 posted on 12/29/2004 6:51:00 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: CriticalJ

That is what I don't get. My girlfriend is Jewish and I try to explain to her that the foundation of Christianity has its roots in Judaism. I don't see how any true Christian could be anti-semetic.

This world is going insane.


52 posted on 12/29/2004 6:53:22 AM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: white trash redneck

Do you have a link to the Vatican article this refers to?


53 posted on 12/29/2004 6:54:16 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: sinkspur

I'm sorry, but human beings, who claim to be holy and care for a congregation, do not cover up sex abuse and transfer dangerous predators to other churches on the donations of the members.

Human beings, being human beings, should not be listened to or respected if they refuse to clean up a mess they themselves created, furthered, and covered up.

If the Vatican spent one fraction of the time on cleansing itself, then maybe, just maybe, people would again gain some respect for it.

Until then, the Vatican seems no different than the U.N. in its disdain for America and Israel, all while at the same time the arabs are on the march executing Christians all over the world.


54 posted on 12/29/2004 6:58:56 AM PST by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: chris1

I, too, am a lifelong Catholic and am pissed. The cover up of the priest abuse of children is horrible. How can they look at themselves in the mirror.
Now, to berate to Israelis when they were told to stay away is arrogance.
Right now, I am an unhappy Catholic and will speak to my priest.


55 posted on 12/29/2004 6:59:49 AM PST by Pedrobud (Get out of the UN)
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To: zip

No; that Vatican is a figment of your imagination.


56 posted on 12/29/2004 7:02:23 AM PST by Romulus (Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?)
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To: Bahbah
Absolutely. It has become ridiculous

Seems to be of the liberal victim mentality that everyone else is responsible for their predicament, rather than being grateful and appreciative that others are helping.

57 posted on 12/29/2004 7:02:47 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Convert from ECUSA; All

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Diplomacy/4673.htm

Israel aid missions return, "unneeded," from Sri Lanka and Thailand

Israeli aid teams returned Wednesday from brief visits to Thailand and Sri Lanka after local authorities said that their assistance was not required.

Israel's army on Tuesday canceled plans to send a 150-member team to aid in recovery efforts in Sri Lanka due to opposition from the Asian country, Israeli officials said.

The medical delegation -- including 60 soldiers -- was set to leave Tuesday, but Sri Lanka's army protested the military composition of the relief team, Israeli security officials said.




Similar reports arrived from other news sources.

Vatican, you are losing it!


58 posted on 12/29/2004 7:03:58 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defence Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: chris1
I don't see how any true Christian could be anti-semetic.

A golden statement. A person would have to be against true Christianity to be a Jew hater.

60 posted on 12/29/2004 7:05:02 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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