Posted on 01/03/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by qam1
According to the standards of the Catholic Church, it wouldn't be a natural marriage because they intentionally not having children. People who are infertile are an exception. That's not their fault but how many people don't have kids so they can have more goodies?
I agree. And your points about this article being a part of the homosexual agenda (especially the push to paint them as something of a "normal alternative") are excellent. I hadn't thought of that angle.
What I want to know is why so many of these childless couples end up having a pack of dogs they treat like children...
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Yes exactly what I had in mind.
Your input solicited.
"Every time I read about couples like this I remember the little old ladies in the nursing homes I have visited who never had any children and have to rely on that lone nephew who lives 1,500 miles away for a family connection."
Oh, I don't know. My wife and I have no children by our own choice. We're providing for ourselves, and will continue to do so. However, our family is large and strong, on both sides. We're favorites of our nieces, nephews and, now, a few grandnieces and nephews. We're not so stupid, though, as to assume they'll take care of us in our old age. We're doing that for ourselves.
Deciding not to have children is not necessarily a selfish choice at all. For many people, having children is a bad idea, medically and genetically. Since you don't know anything about my wife and I and our decision, making any statement at all about us would be presumptuous and wrong.
Yep, especially on FR, I'm sure there are lots of good parents.
What they don't realize is that some people are emotionally, intellectually or psychologically singularly unsuited for parenthood.
Yep again.
...And as a side note, speaking as a Christian, I also believe married Christians are not required and should not be expected to have children.
That is one of the most compelling reasons that has occurred to me when I mull over our options. Who will care when we are old? Is that enough reason to change my life now?
But then again, children often dump ageing parents in a rest home and never visit.
Its both harsh and wrong. Being an adult doesn't mean that its a moral imperative to have children. People can contribute to society and humanity without producing offspring. Some of the most charitable people I've ever met do not have children. Not having kids isn't always an act of selfishness ( not that there is anything wrong with being selfish either)
True, but if these people believed their personal decisions were nobody's business but their own, they would have told the reporter, "No thanks, our life is our own business." Obviously, they wanted to share their personal decisions with the public. Having done so, they are open to the public's judgment. Some readers no doubt said, "Oh, she's right! Where's MY not-having-a-baby shower?!"
Others said (as I have), "Is this for real?" On further reflection, I don't believe "Andrea Wenker, 33" even exists. The line "I'm still here ... I'm still a person!" is such a parody that the reporter had to have made it up!
No prob! It's nice to be on the same wavelength. :-)
Agreed.
My dog is 16 years old, and I have never had to go to a PTA meeting for her.
I am making no judgements. It is just sad when people are old and have no one to watch after them.
Thank Sam and Rosie Gamgee. They had the happiest ending...and they were the future of Middle Earth!
Those poor bachelors, Bilbo and Frodo, who spent their whole lives serving the Ring of Power, sailed off into the West, never to be heard from again...
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If they ever drove across Nebraska, they'd know better!
"I tend to agree. What harm do these folks do by choosing not to have kids?"
A good question. Perhaps the harm is in creating envy among those who do have kids. I know there are a few couples I know who resent my wife and I for not having them. We can do as we please and never need baby sitters. We don't have to plan for college educations and can travel as much as we like, within the confines of our careers.
We pay property taxes (and big ones) to support the public schools, so in a way we're subsidizing those families who have children.
It's a silly discussion.
She also never said, "Goodnight Daddy, I love you..."
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