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Odd Couple Gibson, Moore Exchange Praise (Say It Ain't So Mel!
Yahoo! News (AP) ^ | 1/10/2005 | n/a

Posted on 01/10/2005 11:24:54 AM PST by Pyro7480

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To: kstewskis

Sorry - I was trying to explain Mel may be what in Europe is called Christian Democrats or Christian Socialists - and I provided some hypothetical examples of what such a position would look like to an American. My apologies for any confusion in failing to explain it correctly.


161 posted on 01/10/2005 1:38:50 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: cyncooper
Keep our eyes closed and ...

Hi CC

Freudian slip? ;o)

162 posted on 01/10/2005 1:40:59 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: bubman
Who knows maybe Fatty is a double agent!! passing himself off as a bleeding heart liberal but deep deep down inside, he is a crafty neocon in league with Cheny and Wolfy!!!

Rove planned all of this. He even edited F-911 to insure a victory.

Doesn't everyone know that? LOL!

163 posted on 01/10/2005 1:42:18 PM PST by NewLand (I'm a Generation Jones'er and WE elected President Bush!)
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To: bushfamfan

Oh. Yes I think Moore's film was a dishonest and vicious politcial attack on Bush. It was also an in-kind contribution to Kerry. But I love Mel even if he likes Moore's movie. Mel didn't exactly say he agrees with all of it. He's just against the Iraq war. I think the war was necessary but hey, I'm not going to turn on Mel over it. The Passion of the Christ was a beautiful work of art and a very moving, spiritual experience for the audience.


164 posted on 01/10/2005 1:43:05 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Destro
No problem Destro. I appreciate you trying to explain it to me.

I'll admit, I was having a bit of a hard time following the logic tho :)

I do think you are right about the "problem" of a two party system. It forces people to be either black, or white (figuratively, of course), thus leaving the opportunity for a lot of infighting within a particular party, ideology, (or even on FR, lol).

I believe most thinking people are all of the shades in between, not just either/or. That's just the way life is.

165 posted on 01/10/2005 1:46:00 PM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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To: kstewskis

I totally agree. There are anti-abortion people who would vote for a socialist if they were anti-abortion.


166 posted on 01/10/2005 1:47:12 PM PST by Borges
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To: kstewskis

Thanks for allowing me to expand on my thoughts.


167 posted on 01/10/2005 1:51:28 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: iconoclast

Nope. My keyboard is sticky and I often hit keys but they don't show up (I'm the queen of "backspace" to correct missed strokes or typos) and if I don't notice right away I don't fix it. Nothing more, nothing less.

(I've been resisting the expenditure of a new keyborad, but it looks like I'll have to fork over soon...)


168 posted on 01/10/2005 1:52:32 PM PST by cyncooper
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And my typos today have really been egregious. ack


169 posted on 01/10/2005 1:54:04 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Well, that's my problem with learning that Mel went off and said this. There is no condoning ANY part of Fahrenheit 9/11 and would find it interesting to see what Mel would say in why he 'likes' that film so much?


170 posted on 01/10/2005 1:55:36 PM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Borges
That example -calling it Socialisim - would apply in Europe - in America the hypothetical anti-abortionist, anti-homo and pro conservative theology Chirstians (Evangelicals to Catholics to even Moromons) would tend to favor big govt spending programs for the poor and higher taxes for the rich (in America for some reason we don't call big govt as Socialisism-even if true Americans don't like to hear that).

As soon as the Democratic party figures this out the Republicans are doomed.

171 posted on 01/10/2005 2:08:57 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
Also, in most European countries there is a state religion. So faith based charities are big goverment.
173 posted on 01/10/2005 2:12:55 PM PST by Borges
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To: Jenya

You must have missed that part because he said it.


174 posted on 01/10/2005 2:16:47 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore
You must have missed that part because he said it.

I've read the article a few times. Where is that part?

175 posted on 01/10/2005 2:21:19 PM PST by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: crazy man michael

You *twist the facts* in order to spread your falsehoods.

You have been noted for what you are.


176 posted on 01/10/2005 2:22:23 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Jenya
"I saw his film, I liked it," Gibson said of "9/11," though he indicated that he might disagree with some points and some editing. "However, the question - and I didn't need to see his film to answer the question - is, why are we in Iraq?"

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/movies/package.jsp?name=movies/content/peoples_choice_backstage

177 posted on 01/10/2005 2:23:25 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Pyro7480

there's a difference between saying "I liked it" and "I believed it". Go easy on Mel. Moore is indeed a talented propagandist. "Columbine" was an effective bundle of lies which tried to convince us that guns and a culture of violence in America caused the student massacre (even going so far as to blame a local nuke missile plant), when the real reason for the massacre--the perps both were on a dangerous drug combo of Prozac and Ritalin--was completely ignored. However, just as Riefenshtal successfully showed us only Hitler's "good" side and not the horrific consequences of his power, so Moore managed to convince many Americans that guns are the enemy.


178 posted on 01/10/2005 2:24:11 PM PST by montag813
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To: Pyro7480
"I thought it was a powerful piece of filmmaking," Moore told AP Radio Sunday. "I'm a practicing Catholic, and you know I think Mel and I may be from different wings of the Catholic Church. My film might have been called 'The Compassion of the Christ.'"

This was the most interesting part of it. *LOL*

Not sure why folks are going bonkers over what Gibson said. He's entitled to his own opinion.

179 posted on 01/10/2005 2:25:19 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: montag813

And Leni Riefenshtal had filmmaking talent Moore could only dream of.


180 posted on 01/10/2005 2:25:55 PM PST by Borges
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