Islam and NPR (Truth about what Jihad means)

jihadwatch ^ | January 13, 2005 | Hugh Fitzgerald

[American in Israel]

No such luck, as the placing of a mine on a farm road last night and the IED blowing up the crossing where Arabs can find work in Gaza along with the dual suicide bombers used to take out the medics and the mortar barrage to take out the ambulances.

I am afraid the "Greater Jihad" uses the traditional meaning of the word, terrorism. Perhaps the Arabs should consult with the NPR on image management issues before slaughtering people.

[DianeDePoitiers]

So whose interpretation of "jihad" are we to accept as authentic? The "scholars" in America who tell us that the true meaning of jihad is "spiritual struggle?" Or the clerics in the Middle Eastern universities and mosques who advise their people that true Muslims are obligated to embark on jihad, and kill unbelievers wherever they find them? Since the root of Islam is in the Middle East, I tend to believe the Middle Eastern clerics.

[backhoe]

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JIHAD:

Qur’an 2:216 “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not.” [Another translation reads:] “Warfare is ordained for you.”
Qur’an 4:95 “Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no injurious hurt, and those who strive hard, fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a rank higher to those who strive hard, fighting Jihad with their wealth and bodies to those who sit (at home). Unto each has Allah promised good, but He prefers Jihadists who strive hard and fight above those who sit home. He has distinguished his fighters with a huge reward.”

Muslim:C28B20N4631 “I heard Muhammad say: ‘I would not stay behind when a raid for Jihad was being mobilized unless it was going to be too hard on the believers. I love that I should be killed in Allah’s Cause; then I should be brought back to life and be killed again.’”
Qur’an 9:111 “Allah has purchased the believers, their lives and their goods. For them (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise). They fight in Allah’s Cause, and they slay and are slain; they kill and are killed.”

Perpetual death what a concept in futility

[dennisw]

So whose interpretation of "jihad" are we to accept as authentic? The "scholars" in America who tell us that the true meaning of jihad is "spiritual struggle?" Or the clerics in the Middle Eastern universities and mosques who advise their people that true Muslims are obligated to embark on jihad, and kill unbelievers wherever they find them? Since the root of Islam is in the Middle East, I tend to believe the Middle Eastern clerics.

Which Jihad is the one that affects you and other civilized people? It's the Jihad of demographics as in Europe and the Jihad of terrorism and war.

Who gives a fig about that Jihad of inner struggle to be a better Muslims? That only affects them, the Muslims, is of no concern to me.

[dennisw]

All Things Considered. January 7, 2005 ; "Jihad" is one of the few Arabic words used in English. It means "spiritual struggle," but many Muslims have pointed out that "jihad" is almost always used in English in the context of terrorism, even though the actual meaning is broader. Commentator Anisa Mehdi would like to propose a word that could be used instead of "jihad." -- From the NPR Website

Right you are. This silly interview with Anisa Mehdi was only last week. For anyone who wants to listen, go to NPR:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4273847

 

[dennisw]

I will try to track them and do so.

[Selous]

Commentator Anisa Mehdi would like to propose a word that could be used instead of "jihad."

Hmmmm...."kampf" might do it.

[BayouCoyote]

Hugh really let the cat out the hat with this nice piece on TROP. BTW, I am grateful having had the chance to read this.

Thanks,
BC

[dennisw]

Hugh is very good. The truth hurts....I would not want to be a Muslim and hear him deconstruct the life of Muhammad.

[Marine_Uncle]

I ask if you could put me on your ping list for the upcoming articles (parts,2,3). Your replie:
"I will try to track them and do so"

Thank you. And thanks again for this most well written and revealing article.

[Marine_Uncle]

Firstly. I will give the URL to the Online Koran translation I have used for some time. It is:

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/

I tend to check things out I see posted based on this translation. Looks pretty much identical.

Hope other that do not have access to an English translation take advantage of the above site. It is very easy to browse, go to a particular sarah, query on verses etc..

Yea, this stuff is very troubling. At least the western world is starting to get an idea as how dangerous Islam is.
Some of the statements the authored expressed has been on my mind for a long time. People look strange at me when I make statements that the Islamic radicals are actually trying to obey their cult's writtings. And those that practice peace are not obeying allah and his prophet.
The main problem as I see it, is simple. The Islamic world must come to the conclusion their religion is actually a cult created by a quite screwed up group of individuals. Of course, this is impossible. The problem will not go away.

[BayouCoyote]

And should that step be taken, all the king’s horses and all the king’s men will not be able to put NPR together again."

That's too bad...really. /sarcasm

Hugh does it again!

[Nesher]

Thanks for the ping jan.

From what i gather, the Muslims keep trying to explain away all of their religion's evil aspects. Jihad is a war against all non-Muslims, and any Muslim who tries to say it's a "spiritual struggle" is lying.

[dennisw]

Yea, this stuff is very troubling. At least the western world is starting to get an idea as how dangerous Islam is.
Some of the statements the authored expressed has been on my mind for a long time. People look strange at me when I make statements that the Islamic radicals are actually trying to obey their cult's writtings. And those that practice peace are not obeying allah and his prophet.

No religions can live only on evil. There are good and band parts to Islam and good and bad parts of Muhammad's life. 
So think of Muhammad:
In Mecca was peaceful
In Medina was a terrorist warlord
The Koran's Medina verses overrule the earlier Meccan verses

Muhammad first taught in Mecca for 13 years and only got 100 followers. Most of his preachings were peaceful during his Mecca days. This is where the Koran gets its Meccan verses which are peaceful ones.

Muhammad then moved to Medina and this is where he becomes a terrorist, assassin, a warlord. The evil verses of the Koran reflect this latter part of Muhammad's life. The Islamic Jihadists of today are copying Muhammad's life as a ruthless conqueror. All Muhammedans are ordered to emulate the life of Muhammad. 
The Jihadists have plenty of Islamic scripture to back them up. More scripture than the peaceful Muslims have. And the later Medina verses are superior (overrule) the early Mecca verses whenever there is a contradiction.

The more peaceful Muslims try to ignore the evil side of Muhammad. They play a game of pretend. They are always intimidated and abused by the violent Muslims

[Marine_Uncle]

"They play a game of pretend."
Yes. One can find verses in the Koran and Hadith the talk about when it is ok to pretend, lie, deceive, in order to "protect Islam". They are so screwed up it is totally beyond believe for those that just starting to study the cult, the histories of the region, etc.. The past few years have been a real eye opener for me. Until then I only went on what I read in a few books on Islam, one somewhat in very watered down terms made known that there was a lot wrong, but did not elaborate. It is so easy to see how these peoples in the often extreme backward social/geographic environments could so easily be keeped in ignorance. And for those that do know the real deal, Immans and professors that have contact with the western world etc., they just keep clamed up. If they get out of line due to a total change of heart (realize how bad their cult is) they stand the chance of being killed. To get truly anywhere, the world of Islam (it's various leaders) would have to provide a total thesis on how the cult really came into being and why it is not of the one real God. They would have to instruct all their peoples as how over many centuries Islam used the sword to conquere and enslave, and use OT/NT scriptures after they where converted, to teach why Islam is a clever Satanic forgery. And we know this can never happen.
So regardless of what some that abhore violence for it's very nature, try to ease the tensions, it will do no good for those billion plus adharents that have no education and have no hope, and really are still living in midevial times or earlier without a clue as how the rest of the world has moved forward.

[dennisw]

Reading jihadwatch.com is very good for learning about Islam. Also "The Haj" by Leon Uris provides much insight into the Islamic mentality. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553248642?v=glance

[dennisw]

Karen Armstrong is the most notorious white washer of Islam. She is adored in Europe. There are other multiculturalists who are just as bad on Islam

[faux_hog]

Thanks for this post. Could you please ping me if you post the subsequent articles. Thanks

[Marine_Uncle]

"Reading jihadwatch.com is very good for learning about Islam."
I'm aware of this site by earlier FR posts. Thanks.

"Karen Armstrong is the most notorious white washer of Islam. She is adored in Europe. There are other multiculturalists who are just as bad on Islam." Like many western Islamist apologists, they do not have the stomach to tell the whole story. They fit in quite well with the concept that it is ok to lie to protect Islam.