Posted on 01/31/2005 9:14:49 PM PST by TAdams8591
*Michael, HAVE A HEART !!!!!For Valentines Day give Terri back to her MOM & DAD, The Schindlers!!!!!!!!*
The Terri Schindler Schiavo Daily Threads are created month to month as we watch local and national news regarding Terri and her family.
Since Terri's supporters are in every time zone, you may see something FIRST. Please share news with us that you don't see here already. Now, why would you want to do that? Terri's Daily Thread for September/October of 2004 was viewed over 15,000 times. Terri's November Daily Thread was viewed over 6,000 times. December's thread is over 3,000 views. January 2005 Daily Thread was a RECORD HIGH!!!!!!! 15, 103 VIEWS!!!!!!
More and more good folks are finding out about Terri and that judicial tyranny would take her life, but for lots and lots of prayer and non-stop lobbying of relatives, friends, clergy, our leaders, the media, a passerby, a cashier - ANYONE who you feel comfortable chatting with.
Folks always want to know how can this be in America or on earth for that matter? Unfortunately, this is really happening to an innocent woman who just celebrated her 41st birthday. She's not the only one but she's the one with devoted parents and siblings who knows what's in Terri's heart. Terri has a strong will to live. That's apparent. It's been 14 years.
Besides, feeding tubes have been around practically since the Civil War. They are not high tech devices. Terri is "not hooked up to machines". Her feeding tube is the diameter of a piece of spaghetti.
Talkin' about Terri is the best way to lobby for her. It is a salespitch to save her life and subsequently, many lives. If you've never sold anything in your life, START NOW. START WITH TERRI.
See Terri's flash movies if you need more information. You can see for yourself that's she's interactive and follows the doctor's instructions.
Visit: http://www.terrisfight.org
NOTE: Terri's December Dailies are noted as a source above. There are lots of important links at the very top of that thread. If you missed Terri's Celebration of Life, you can click on it from there.
AGAIN WE HAVE A NEW RECORD: 15,103 views on the tote board for the Terri Schindler Schiavo January Daily Thread!
The most significant event in Terri's case in January, was the Supreme's Courts refusal to hear Governor Jeb Bush's appeal, after the Florida State Legislature struck down Terri's Law. This once again places Terri's life in extreme jeopardy, though there are other issues regarding her case before the court.
I appreciate your remarks, I really do.
Yup.
Yes.. I posted the info. re: Valentine's Day shindig up in WV.
Yes. I just learned that today. That he has final acceptance or veto power.
| #1. Stop all this talk about corrupt judges, hospice problems, abortion, lawbreaking , side issues, etc. The public wants have faith in their courts. Don't take it away. Talk benefits to the public. Don't insult or scare them. Who is talking about abortion? You don't know half what you claim to. Will you just stop with the divisive behavior? Your recollections of events are sadly misguided. I've been there. You have not. Stop it. No one is insulting or scaring anyone. They are trying to enlighten others on what's actually happening here. You got a problem with that? Brilliant. What watch would you have us build whilst Florida lawmakers and the judiciary declare that anyone with a TBI or ABI or HBI is unworthy of life? Get rid of the metaphors. We need information. We've peddled information. Do the same. Sadly, with any cause of good nature come people who are over the top. We don't own a soul. We can ask. But we don't own. Don't fold people who go over the top with the rest of the people trying to support this cause. That's asinine. Has been done. Where have you been? See above. Have you bothered to read a single word the Foundation has put forward? I suspect not. Perhaps you should do so, educate yourself and become familiar with the efforts before you exact your criticism upon others. These words have already been spoken in the public forum ad infinitum. You've truly lost the entire point. This is not a political issue. Do you think I'm a conservative? If you do, you're guilty of prejudging another. This is a human rights issue. That is why disability, elder care, and medical ethics reform advocates have all come together. No one is preaching to the conservatives. We are trying to engage all in a human rights issue that effects conservatives, liberals, religious, not so religious, weak, strong, young, old, et al. See it for what it is. Don't nuthole it as political or you're just as guilty as the lousy mainstream press. Sweet cheeks? I'm far left. Dump the politics. This is about human beings. Done. Next? Done. Next? No. Reason will only be heard within masses. Smart, sensible and meaningful messages won't be heard unless there are thousands screaming it out. That's the reality. We don't have Brad Pitt or Beyonce on our side (yet), so we have to be uproarious. Ah, and isn't that just the crux of the problem. An ethical, trustable journalist must now be paid off? Well, the Schindlers barely have a pot to pie into. Will your Mr. Curley accept a six of Fosters? Does he require a higher payoff to tell the truth? God, did you just show what is wrong with you and your ilk in one short sentence. Tell him to call me. I'll let you know if he does. From the preceding commentary, you seem to think we are nothing more than a bunch of halfwits who have an obligation to give up. You may want to make up your mind. Buggar your politics. This is human life. You are either for it or not. Stow your politics and do something of use. In the end, your politics won't add up to a hill of beans if you're deader than a kipper on a cracker. So, do something besides bloviating. Prayer without action is like talking to your pillow. What action are YOU willing to take? |
Bump!
Oooooohhh! The dreaded 666!
Urgh.. hate when that happens. Let me reformat.
Posted By: monk
Date: Monday, 7 February 2005, 8:23 a.m.
TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO WANTS TO LIVE!
MICHAEL SCHAIVO HER CHEATING,INFIDELITOUS "Husband" WANTS TO LET HER SLOWLY DIE OF THIRST and then Starvation!
www.terrisfight.org
FLORIDA"S CONGRESS CAN SAVE HER! THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS CAN SAVE HER!
There is a shell game happening here, they want us to paint the struggle as Michael Schaivo and the Black Robes against Gov. Jeb Bush and TERRIS Mom and Dad.
These People are gaming Pawns. They are Shills. they are Distraction.
FLORIDAS CONGRESS CAN SAVE TERRI IN ONE VOTE. The US Congress can save Terri!
CONGRESS IS THE HIGHEST AUTHORITY TO "JUDGE" THis CASE.
THEY ARE THE FINAL ARBITRATOR, THEY CAN IMPEACH ANY JUDGE WHO VIOLATED HIS OATH OR THEIR WISHES!
"Congress is the ultimate administrator of the district courts, the same as my case in the State? Why not? The courts are legislative courts and not pure judicial article III unbiased courts having judges with undiminished pay. The district courts are mere administrative courts. The courts of the original jurisdiction are the agencies themselves."
Re read that and this article
http://www.freedomdomain.com/sovereignty/inform12.html
Leavy in Cochran v. St. Paul & Tacoma Lumber
Co., 73 F.Supp. 288.
"When we go to the other side of this question we begin first with the statement that is not subject to dispute or contradiction; which is that a United States District Court is purely a creature of the legislative branch of the government, generally provided for by the Constitution, but not, in a stricter sense, a constitutional court. Congress undoubtedly has the power to abolish these courts entirely, give them another name, or dispense with the services that they render. Certainly in the lifetime of some of us we know we have changed what was once the Circuit Courts and gave them a new name, outlined their duties, and made them the `District Courts'; provided for an appellate court, designated the Circuit Court of Appeals. Now there is some legislation pending to change the name again somewhat, if not, the powers. This Court is a creature of the Congress, and its jurisdiction, in reference to conferring and depriving it of jurisdiction comes from the Congress. . . . The District Courts and even the Circuit Courts were deprived of jurisdiction that theretofore had been conferred upon them. It was placed in a new court, called the Emergency Court of Appeals, and the act even went so far as to deny the District Courts the right to pass upon any feature of constitutionality in either civil or criminal litigation involved in O.P.A law and regulations." emphasis mine.
Judge Leavy then went on to quote Assessors v. Osborne, 9 Wall. 76 U.S. 567 at 574,
`District Courts are courts of special jurisdiction, and therefore, they cannot take jurisdiction of any case, either civil or criminal, where they are not authorized to do so by an Act of Congress',--he said it is-- "a leading case, and has not been distinguished, modified or over-ruled." emphasis his.
CONGRESS CAN SAVE TERRI!!
Heres such a touching story it will INSPIRE YOU to CONTACT anyone you know in FLORIDA to HELP>
"Knowing how critical time is surrounding Terri's fight, Galley's efforts are relentless when it comes to him helping me with my Fight4Terri internet and widespread local grassroots movement. Terri Schindler-Schiavo is only weeks, if not just days away from having her life ended via a torturous death of dehydration and starvation. Her estranged husband Michael Schiavo, sits salivating as he waits in anticipation for the day Judge George Greer's corrupt court will again exhaust the desperate pleas and filings of Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler.
In the last several weeks, Mr. and Mrs. Schindler have repeatedly tried to bargain with Michael Schiavo. They have made a request that they be granted the parental rights to care for their disabled daughter Terri, in exchange for no more legal battles in the courts. They have agreed to give Michael, and the 2 children he created with his fiancee Jodi Centonze, all rights to any books or movies made on Terri's situation that they may potentially be offered.
In addition, they have agreed to not pursue any legal filings against him for whatever remaining 1.6 million dollars he has in his possession. The money that was awarded to Terri in 1993 for her rehabilitation. Rehabilitation that Michael Schiavo has denied Terri for many years!
Schiavo, through a message delivered by death attorney George Felos has denied the Schindlers' written request. He and George Felos instead wish to patiently await for Judge Greer's permission to again pull Terri's feeding tube; a small feeding tube which she only has attached in order to receive routine and customary nutrition for 12 hours daily.
For the remaining 12 hours, Terri is not connected to any tubes whatsoever. She, like every other disabled person, sits in her wheelchair anticipating the daily visits of her parents and siblings. Schiavo has not permitted Terri to leave her hospice room in well over four and a half years. "
TERRI CAN MAKE IT IF HER PARENTS CAN TAKE HER HOME!
FEEDBACK? IDEAS?
BOYCOTT ALL OF FLORIDA TILL TERRI IS FREE!
Write you Congressperson now!!
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
Write Them and Tell them to take their Original Jurisdiction and Save Terri. Tell Them to Impeach any Judge working to Kill her.
WE THE PEOPLE not the BLACK ROBES RUN THIS COUNTRY!!
PLEASE HELP
MONK
www.terrisfight.org
MB said the above about his contact with Terri's team.
Thanks for the ping!
Yep. And now he denies saying it. He likes to lie, and doesn't shy away from lies he can easily be caught in.
Terri ping to 670! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!
You said the above and in the very next sentence (below) violate your own advice
"No one questions your dedication, but your results speak very convincingly about the effectiveness of your methods.
I don't get you. Why couldn't you HAVE JUST TAKEN SOME OF YOUR OWN ADVICE and made your suggestions, most of which are sound good ideas and left it at that, instead of additionally BLAMING & BERATING Terri's supporters which only serves to raise their ire, suspicion and alienation from the very proposals you are attempting to sell?
BTW, I have seen several videos and pictures of Terri's supporters and one thing that struck me immediately about them, is that they look SO NORMAL. No fetus picture wavers or any of the other scary things you mentioned, among them. Furthermore, our conversations on these threads, rarely IF EVER turn to abortion.
God bless Terri - watch over her and protect her.
At first glance, House Bill 701 looks like it will help incapacitated people who are in danger of being starved and dehydrated to death. The title of section 765.601 is "Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Prevention Act." But the bill states that a medical ethics committee helps to determine whether or not an incapacitated person is to be starved to death.
Section 765.404(2) of the bill states, "The guardian and the person's attending physician, in consultation with the medical ethics committee of the facility where the patient is located, conclude that the condition (persistant vegetative state) is permanent....and that withholding or withdrawing life-prolonging procedures is in the best interest of the patient. [T]he facility must have an arrangement with the medical ethics committee of another facility or with a community based ethics committee approved by the Florida Bioethics Network. The ethics committee shall review the case with the guardian...."
http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/view_page.pl?Tab=session&Submenu=1&FT=D&File=hb0701.html&Directory=session/2005/House/bills/billtext/html/
This is what I know about HB 701. This bill had input from some disability groups, along with RTL. This is a bill on withdrawal of nutrition and hydration.
It seems that some people are getting hung up on the section that relates to PVS and feel that this could make it easier to kill Terri. That section (7) concerning PVS is only if no family or friends are available or willing to serve as proxy for health care decision; then, the steps outlined may be applied to the decision making process.
But, family, friends, etc, must abide by the presumption that the incapacitated person wants nutrition and hydration unless there is:
(1) express and informed consent,
(2) there is written advanced directives or designation of a health care surrogate
(3) there is clear and convincing evidence that the incompetent person, when competent, gave express and informed consent to the withdrawal of nutrition/hydration in the applicable circumstances.
This bill also addresses the concerns that people had with the Bill last year, specifically self determination and minors.
Read the bill, please.
The PVS is better addressed by the medical community who have clout and lobbyists in place. That is their area of expertise. And they have been contacted.
Calling your reps and speaking with them about your concerns is the best course. At least they know people are aware, concerned, and are taking an interest.
Amendments can be made, and surely will.
Don't defeat the purpose of the bill.
You will not get a bill out of this state tailor made for Terri. This bill is for all incapacitated persons. Look at it in context.
If this bill fails, there are no others on the table, and there are no more legislative sessions to file anymore. This is the last chance she has.
Regardless what action, or inaction you choose, read the bill and apply it to all incapacitated people.
If you have questions or concerns, I direct you to the RTL who drew this up. Their lawyers have been involved as well. They can answer your questions far beter than I. I was just a minor player in the picture.
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