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Visioning projects are going on all over the United States to brainwash Americans into accepting smart growth and its subsequent soviet bloc style housing and elimination of private automobiles for transportation.
1 posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:06 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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2 posted on 02/03/2005 10:40:45 PM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

"United Nations dissolves USA Sovereignty"

The UN cannot even find it's way to the bathroom - let alone dissolve America's sovereignty.

I think this is a bunch of kook conspiracy theory stuff.


7 posted on 02/03/2005 10:49:20 PM PST by The Final Harvest (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

One day I got a little worked up regarding land conservencies. I did an internet search and found hundreds of them. I had no idea how many there are out there. Each one of these NGOs are gobbling up land like there's no tomorrow. You know what, if we continue to allow them to do so, there won't be any tomorrow for the way of life we cherish.

I'd advise folks to tune into the things you're mentioning under Agenda 21.

Here's a link to just a few of the many conservancies out there.

Google

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=conservancy&num=100&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images


8 posted on 02/03/2005 10:49:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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If anything crazy happens, the Freepers will have enough firepower and will to secure one part of America. All I can say is that I'm not too worried with Bush around.


9 posted on 02/03/2005 10:50:05 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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"smart growth and its subsequent soviet bloc style housing and elimination of private automobiles for transportation"

My compliments. You gave me more information in one phrase about Agenda 21 than the author bothered to give in her entire screed. Maybe she can learn from you. First rule: Tell the reader WTF you're talking about.


16 posted on 02/03/2005 10:56:03 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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cough cough hype cough cough

seriously people dont sink to the DU's level with ridiculous black helicopter style stories, that are embedded with "what ifs" and "it mights" and "it coulds" and this will "end america" at least at the moment there are to many decent americans that wouldnt let this destroy america


20 posted on 02/03/2005 11:01:34 PM PST by toledocon
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Yes. WorldNetDaily columnists and quite a few others have covered Agenda 21. Enter "agenda 21" (with the quotes) in a google search to see the UN documents.

And as you see, large scale developers like Agenda 21 and its variants. They'll sneer at any warnings about it. The most recent such effort in my State was "Proposition 21," if I remember correctly (4-5 years ago?).

Anyway, such sustainable development programs will stop competition from smaller developers for a short while. False environmentalists often do local front politics for large scale developers.

The problem for large developers and their banker friends is that they will be next in line, as private properties (including shares) will altogether outlawed in the next step (as discussed by world and US architects of the overall plan). The other problem for them is their self-assurance (vanity) that the plan won't affect them, inducing them to assist with such false environmentalism.

We'll see the push against ownership of private property more clearly after the next Democrat Administration is voted into office, along with the completion of the Democrat plan to turn our government into, in effect, a one party system.


21 posted on 02/03/2005 11:02:42 PM PST by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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ping-a-ling


23 posted on 02/03/2005 11:07:55 PM PST by bigfootbob
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Agenda 21 is the end of America.

Yes. I got on to it about 7 years ago and haven't had a good nights sleep since then.

Free Trade, outsourcing and insourcing are part of it. The Mexican Invasion is also part of it..and that's exactly why our politicians refuse to do anything about it.

It's better known as the NWO, but whatever you call it, you need only go to UN.org and start reading. You'll be shocked to find how much of their system is already controlling this nation. (Havn't you wondered why GWB is pushing for the Treaty of the Sea when it obviously turns our ocean borders into the hands of the UN?)

Now they're onto the social side, trying to break down middle class America via low wages, disappearing jobs, immorality and hardship. THey're brainwashing the kids via "education." They're succeeding. Massive foreign invasion is part of it is allowed specifically to destroy the middle class.

Still, few will hear. They'd rather call you names than look at the facts. The facts are readily available, but the will to see the betrayal is missing. By the time they catch on, it will be too late. It's almost too late now. The "manufactured political divide" is part of it, because the only solution is to get rid of our entrenched systems and politicians.

Frightening and predicted thousands of years ago in Bible prophecy. The good news is that more and more are catching on, but as our freedoms disappear, I fear it will be too late.


24 posted on 02/03/2005 11:10:31 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (We have the best politicians corporate money can buy)
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"Visioning projects are going on all over the United States to brainwash Americans into accepting smart growth and its subsequent soviet bloc style housing and elimination of private automobiles for transportation."

You're right.

27 posted on 02/03/2005 11:14:20 PM PST by spunkets
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I read this about the UN and US forests... http://www.abetterearth.org/article.php/796.html
back in September and had completely forgotten about it until now. I wonder if this is part of the plan.


44 posted on 02/03/2005 11:27:34 PM PST by Free2BeMe
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Heres an excerpt from the article...

"The ITTA, a U.N. measure the United States signed July 1, 1999, and accepted Nov. 14, 1996, created an organization that controls the world’s production (and consumption) of timber. The agreement, overseen and administered by the U.N. Conference on Trade and Development, labels nations as either timber producers or consumers and allots voting quotas based on levels of production versus consumption – with more voting weight granted to the former. The United States, a consumer, therefore does not possess the same ability to control - via ballot - the application of this agreement, as many of the producing nations do (e.g. Indonesia or Malaysia). "


48 posted on 02/03/2005 11:32:48 PM PST by Free2BeMe
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Bookmarked.

This is the first I've heard of it....thanks.

55 posted on 02/03/2005 11:37:54 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
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I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
56 posted on 02/03/2005 11:38:33 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulations. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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ON THE NET...


UN.org: "Welcome to the UN. It's Your World."

UN.org: "UNITED NATIONS DIVISION FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT AGENDA 21" (UN WEB SITE SNIPPET: "Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment.")

"UNglobalCompact.org"

www.itu.int/wsis: "WSIS: THE WORLD SUMMIT ON THE INFORMATION SOCIETY"

GLOBAL POLICY FORUM

82 posted on 02/04/2005 12:12:33 AM PST by Cindy
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Re: After about six months of reading...

It shows. Your posts and opinions are appreciated!
100 posted on 02/04/2005 12:39:46 AM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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ping


129 posted on 02/04/2005 1:08:13 AM PST by Exton1
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BUMP!

People thought LOST was a joke at first. Now it's being pushed as polict by our own government.

Anything think the UN is just going away anytime soon? It isn't.

Agenda 21.This is dead serious, people.

159 posted on 02/04/2005 2:11:48 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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I see the author of this took the same journey I did. We are making some headway in central Pennsylvania on educating people about Agenda 21. DCNR is pushing "PA Wilds" in north central PA, supposedly to promote tourism, but actually a tool to get control of land use and 're-wild' a core bio-reserve. Because the loyal opposition has been spreading the word, DCNR actually mentioned, in one of their 'myths about PA Wilds' brochures, Agenda 21. It was of course in the lying context that any connection between PA Wilds and Agenda 21 was a myth, but it shows that enough people are talking about it that they felt forced to address it.

I do tend to think that most (though not all) of the people implementing this stuff at the local level, state level and even within the bureaucracy really don't understand it either. They think planning councils and visioning sounds like progress - why not break out from the old governmental constraints and really work together for what everyone wants? They don't know about the agenda behind it all. Since I've been to visioning events, I can see how slick the professional facilitators are - they know what THEY are doing!
165 posted on 02/04/2005 2:57:48 AM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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You need to include a few randomly CAPITALIZED words; extra exclamation marks at the ends of some sentences; and use words like "fedgov" and "comsymp" to really get your point across.


169 posted on 02/04/2005 3:34:11 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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