Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo

UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

[King Prout]

MANY thanks - good resource.

[HankReardon]

Y'all keep me constantly diving for my dictionary!

[RightWhale]

some do not belive in evolving evolution

There has to be a watchmaker--it is an axiom that can be useful along the line of that approach. The postulate does not imply a beginning, nor does it exclude evolution as a natural function of the watch, to be a little Hegelian.

[shubi]

Ok, you owe me a new keyboard!! ROFLMAO

Is he really serious about that calculation? I think he must be pulling our legs. What passes for deep thought among some people is frightening.

[King Prout]

it is explicitly stated: you are limited to the Given.

[HankReardon]

I'm not surprised, thinking can have all kinds of results.

[Alacarte]

Sometimes the scientist can come to the conclusion, as shubi the minister of the Gospel has, that despite the exhaustion of naturalism divine intervention exists.

Whether shubi believes in god is irrelevant to science. Scientists do not appeal to their religious beliefs when it comes to their work. Otherwise they would not be scientists.

[shubi]

"Why are science writers so ignorant?"

The same might be said of science readers at times.

There will always be disputes over classification of different species among experts. This does not mean that evolution is not true. It simply means that the study of life is difficult and unlike literalist Bible interpretation, is not authoritarian to the point of mind-numbed robotics.

[shubi]

Heeeheeeheeee

[King Prout]

good.
I keep a Bible, Gray's Anatomy, two English dictionaries, and the Oxford Latin Dictionary by my computer at all times.
looking stuff up is good for the mind.

[HankReardon]

Right, there has to be watch maker. A human being is much more complex and intricate than this computer, no one would ever suggest this computer could just "happen". No one.

[SubSailor]

Was that an African migratory bird or a European migratory bird?

(Sorry, couldn't resist the opportunity for a Python reference.)

[King Prout]

if the computer was not a static inanimate object incapable of self-replication, it is possible that it could develop naturally.

[shubi]

s-"Just because someone believes God created everything, doesn't mean he or she is a creationist."


t-Then why are you rejecting ID out of hand?

When ID does some actual science, it will be accepted as science. Coming up with philosophical arguments and sophistries is not science. Attacking evolution with argument is not the same as refuting evolution with scientific data.

There is no reason to consider ID seriously, yet. I doubt there ever will be, as it is nothing more than creation science with a new bookcover.

[ericthecurdog]

Good lord. I originally wanted to haze you for hijacking the thread... but after actually READING your post, I owe you my applause. I believe that I have just witnessed the 'Tsar Bomba' of replies.

[WildTurkey]

Y'all keep me constantly diving for my dictionary!

Maybe, one day you will be diving into some science texts.

[shubi]

If it was peer reviewed under SOP, no one would be objecting to the publishing of the article.

[shubi]

As long as you did not have 3 different wives, you are ok. ;-)

[King Prout]

it was indeed a veritable hurricane of anvils

[HankReardon]

I agree, I have an extensive personal library including many reference books. I am acutely aware of how obvious it must be to some that I lack proper higher education, but I love to learn. I enjoy the exchange here.