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Scientists find missing link between whale and its closest relative, the hippo
UC Berkeley News ^ | 24 January 2005 | Robert Sanders, Media Relations

Posted on 02/08/2005 3:50:43 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: RadioAstronomer

Read it?

Why? What did they change this time??

Darwin said his fossils were there but we didn't find them yet. Stephen Jay Gould says the fossils aren't there, that's why there are gaps in the fossil record. If I told you I did my homework, but the dog ate it, would you believe me? Once again, the proof, is that there is no proof. Evolution is such a fun theory, you can think up any zany idea from microbes on meteors to aliens with a mission to populate the universe and 'science' will back you up; but what happens if you say, " In the beginning, God......


441 posted on 02/08/2005 11:30:40 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: Mamzelle
A kind of mule--fertile, unfortunately, in my case. Ask Modernman about mules.

Pregnant Mule

442 posted on 02/08/2005 11:31:35 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: houeto
You would concede though, would you not, that there are things demonstrated in this world that cannot be explained by modern science?

Correct. We still do not know how gravity causes bodies to attract, how electrical charges repel, how mass is converted into energy as the candle burns ...

443 posted on 02/08/2005 11:33:28 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey

Now, show me the baby.


444 posted on 02/08/2005 11:33:33 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Ichneumon

Interesting, but you still haven't explained the origins of Ted Kennedy. He's just not natural.


445 posted on 02/08/2005 11:33:38 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: sure_fine

Boy, is he ever missing!!


446 posted on 02/08/2005 11:34:24 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: RaceBannon
Why? What did they change this time??

I would not be surprised if you hadn't even clicked the link I provided. That site does not address the theory of evolution. It addresses cosmology.

447 posted on 02/08/2005 11:35:12 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Alacarte
After the fact predictions are not difficult. In fact, if the bible is so full of scientific predictions, why don't you tell us something scientific from the bible before science explains it for once.

The order of creation was told in the Bible thousands of years before science confirmed it.

448 posted on 02/08/2005 11:35:40 AM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: Mamzelle
Now, show me the baby.

Thought you would never ask.


449 posted on 02/08/2005 11:36:20 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: colorado tanker
Interesting, but you still haven't explained the origins of Ted Kennedy. He's just not natural.

The problems with interbreeding are well documented except in Genesis.

450 posted on 02/08/2005 11:37:27 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Modernman; WildTurkey
Yes. Particularly that part in Gensesis 2 where God found man lonely and created the animals for his company.

...and dogs are still man's best friend.

Weird ain't it?

451 posted on 02/08/2005 11:38:03 AM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: WildTurkey
Now that's cute--in more ways than one.
452 posted on 02/08/2005 11:38:22 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: shubi

Are you endowed by your Creator will certain unalienable rights?


453 posted on 02/08/2005 11:38:46 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (p)
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To: Jaysun
(animals are unable to be smart asses).

You never met my dog. lol

454 posted on 02/08/2005 11:39:43 AM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: WildTurkey

The Kennedy clan is originally from West Virginia???


455 posted on 02/08/2005 11:40:10 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: WildTurkey
Correct. We still do not know how gravity causes bodies to attract, how electrical charges repel, how mass is converted into energy as the candle burns ...

Nor can we explain why the moon does not spin with relation to the Earth. That one always gets me.

456 posted on 02/08/2005 11:43:07 AM PST by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: houeto
Nor can we explain why the moon does not spin with relation to the Earth. That one always gets me.

Gravity. Actually it does spin in relation to the earth. It's spin rate exactly matches it's rate of revolution around the earth.

457 posted on 02/08/2005 11:45:47 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Mamzelle
You provided a huge shopping list of extinct species and their likely genetic interrelatedness. And that's just what I read. I confess, after a while, I got the point that your list was, indeed, a list! and stopped reading.

A closed mind gathers no thought.

You sought to persuade through overkill?

No, I was showing a pattern in the evidence.

I know that species are related--but your underlying assertion--"they arose from them"--is just not borne out as "proof" by any such list.

Not all by itself, no. In interlocking relation to dozens of other lines of evidence, yes.

Interesting, indicative, but hardly doctrine.

See above.

I then pointed out what many people do to evo-shamans--

Oh boy, more petulant, pointless namecalling. How typical.

that life dwindles rather than proliferates.

That's not what the evidence clearly indicates, but if you want to cling to your fantasies, go for it.

Species decrease rather than increase.

Please do not present your fantasies as if they were fact, or were supported by the evidence. They are not.

That there were more "then" and less "now" points to a speciation theory that lacks generative potency.

It would if that were the case, but since you're just MAKING IT UP, I'd say that it actually rather indicates the paucity of your own position.

Hint: How many, say, bird species were there ~200 million years ago? Zero. How many are there now? Over 10,000.

Bigger hints:

Extinction, diversity and survivorship of taxa in the fossil record

Diversity

Biodiversity *increases* over time.

Each new day brings a story of a new "Eve" of our genetic ancestry, and the evos go into High Ritual Mode to worship their new goddess. A few months later, a new Eve and, with no spraining of cognitive dissonance, seems to be as welcome as the previous, abandoned, Eve was.

What are you babbling about here? Give a *specific* example, with links or citations, of an alleged "new story" which you feel should require "spraining of cognitive dissonance", and/or similar documentation for what you mumble is a "previous, abandoned, Eve". In other words, please demonstrate that you even know what in the hell you're talking about.

That the programming of life swaps around could be some very useful information for applied science--

Huh? Again, *try* to be coherent, and give *specific* examples for a change, don't just ramble in a vague fashion and then spew empty platitudes like:

I'd just prefer that the scientists keep their religion to themselves.

Well in that regard, you have nothing to worry about. Evolutionary biology is not a religion. If it *seems* like it to you, then you quite simply don't actually understand it.

458 posted on 02/08/2005 11:46:24 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: WildTurkey
Then I guess you erred when you made this statement:
Scripture specifically says that God created man in his image in the beginning.


No. Scripture does say that. It was Jesus Christ that said that man was created in the beginning:

And He answered and said to them, Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female (Mt 19:4)

But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. (Mark 10:6)

So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. (Ge 1:27)

What is it that you want me to say? What is it that you'd like to prove? Just tell me. I have lots of other things to do today.
459 posted on 02/08/2005 11:47:35 AM PST by Jaysun (Nefarious deeds for hire.)
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To: Mamzelle; WildTurkey
I don't think that's the kind of nervous Modern meant.

I meant nervous in the same way as a sheep is nervous around a drunk Scotsman.

460 posted on 02/08/2005 11:47:50 AM PST by Modernman (What is moral is what you feel good after. - Ernest Hemingway)
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